Thanks for the vid.
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Btw, here is a comparison of the Nimitz-Class carrier and our Izumo-Class Carrier and the Hyuga Class Carrier.
Ready or not, Japan wants to buy the Pentagon’s controversial Osprey aircraft
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Thanks for the vid.
@OCguy
Btw, here is a comparison of the Nimitz-Class carrier and our Izumo-Class Carrier and the Hyuga Class Carrier.
CAMP FOSTER, Okinawa — Japan’s defense ministry wants funding to purchase Osprey aircraft starting next year, with the addition of more than a dozen tilt-rotor aircraft over the next few years, despite homegrown protests and concerns regarding the aircraft’s safety.
During a recent trip to Washington, D.C., Japanese Defense Minister Itsunori Onodera lauded the ability and performance of the controversial helicopter-airplane hybrid in the Philippines, where it was used extensively in typhoon relief operations.
An aircraft that can fly like a plane, but take off and land like a helicopter, would be an asset to many Japanese communities, he said.
“In consideration of the Self-Defense Force’s disaster relief operations, which are particularly important for certain municipalities, it is a critical fact that there are numerous remote islands in Japan, and many of them don’t have a runway,” Onodera said at a recent news conference.
“Under such restricted conditions, tilt-rotor aircraft such as the Ospreys have superior capability to carry out disaster relief operations and transport patients in a timely manner... In addition, tilt-rotor aircraft are vital equipment for defending Japan’s territory, including outlying islands.”
Onodera said Japan’s five-year midterm National Defense Program Guidelines for fiscal 2014 and beyond calls for as many as 17 tilt-rotor aircraft by fiscal 2018. The purchase of the V-22 aircraft, however, is not yet set in stone, and the type of aircraft to be purchased was still under consideration. However, if Japan begins purchasing the tilt-rotor craft next year, they will most likely start with the Osprey, as several other variations are still in development.
The announcement came as plans were also laid out to build facilities for the U.S. military’s Osprey fleet on bases in mainland Japan so the majority of flight training could take place outside of Okinawa, where the birds are based.
Starting in 2012, the arrival of two squadrons of 12 Marine Corps MV-22 Osprey aircraft to the southern island caused small but impassioned protests from residents concerned about several high-profile crashes that plagued the aircraft early in its development and occurred sporadically in the preceding years.
A December 2013 telephone survey found that 71.2 percent of respondents said that prefectures outside of Okinawa should host military drills involving the Osprey. That poll was taken two days after the Okinawan government had approved an unpopular relocation plan of the Futenma facility to another location on the island.
The Marine Corps has tried to assuage Japanese fears about the aircraft, which has become a Marine Corps and Air Force workhorse in recent years, flying successfully in combat and rescue missions in Iraq, Afghanistan and even Libya as well as in relief and training operations in South Korea, the Philippines, Singapore, Thailand, Australia and Guam.
Multiple Marine Corps Osprey pilots from different units interviewed by Stars and Stripes during the course of the past two years have all insisted the aircraft is safe. They praised the aircraft for its increased cargo capacity, speed and durability under fire.
The Japanese are not alone in trying to purchase the Osprey. The Defense Department announced in October that Israel was buying six Osprey for its air force.
Japanese military scholars applauded the move to procure the aircraft, saying the Osprey is vital to Japan’s defense.
“Japan is an island nation, and for the defense of outlying islands, sending needed troops in a timely manner is crucial,” said Toshiyuki Shikata, professor at Teikyo University and a retired lieutenant general of Japan Ground Self-Defense Force. “The payload of the current Chinook is absurdly small. It has to be the Osprey, which has twice the payload, with threefold speed and has four times the flight distance.”
Shikata said the Osprey is safe and is an effective deterrent to nations involved in land and resource disputes with Japan. He said its ability in relief operations is sure to change perceptions.
“Should a crisis occur in Korean Peninsula, or Taiwan Strait, there is a need for quick evacuation of Japanese citizens,” he said. “The Ospreys have the capability for such operations, which is not possible with conventional helicopters.”
Two Ospreys stopped at Yokota Air Base, west of Tokyo, for the first time Saturday, where they were scheduled to refuel en route to the July 20 Sapporo Air Show. The Ospreys’ participation in the Sapporo Air Show is aimed at raising public awareness of the aircraft.
The Kyodo News agency reported Friday that the Sapporo municipal government requested that the organizer of a weekend air show stop the arrival of two U.S. Marine Corps MV-22 Osprey aircraft because of safety concerns among local residents.
Japan eyes buying Ospreys as US looks to expand fleet to mainland - Japan - Stripes
During a recent trip to Washington, D.C., Japanese Defense Minister Itsunori Onodera lauded the ability and performance of the controversial helicopter-airplane hybrid in the Philippines, where it was used extensively in typhoon relief operations.
An aircraft that can fly like a plane, but take off and land like a helicopter, would be an asset to many Japanese communities, he said.
“In consideration of the Self-Defense Force’s disaster relief operations, which are particularly important for certain municipalities, it is a critical fact that there are numerous remote islands in Japan, and many of them don’t have a runway,” Onodera said at a recent news conference.
“Under such restricted conditions, tilt-rotor aircraft such as the Ospreys have superior capability to carry out disaster relief operations and transport patients in a timely manner... In addition, tilt-rotor aircraft are vital equipment for defending Japan’s territory, including outlying islands.”
Onodera said Japan’s five-year midterm National Defense Program Guidelines for fiscal 2014 and beyond calls for as many as 17 tilt-rotor aircraft by fiscal 2018. The purchase of the V-22 aircraft, however, is not yet set in stone, and the type of aircraft to be purchased was still under consideration. However, if Japan begins purchasing the tilt-rotor craft next year, they will most likely start with the Osprey, as several other variations are still in development.
The announcement came as plans were also laid out to build facilities for the U.S. military’s Osprey fleet on bases in mainland Japan so the majority of flight training could take place outside of Okinawa, where the birds are based.
Starting in 2012, the arrival of two squadrons of 12 Marine Corps MV-22 Osprey aircraft to the southern island caused small but impassioned protests from residents concerned about several high-profile crashes that plagued the aircraft early in its development and occurred sporadically in the preceding years.
A December 2013 telephone survey found that 71.2 percent of respondents said that prefectures outside of Okinawa should host military drills involving the Osprey. That poll was taken two days after the Okinawan government had approved an unpopular relocation plan of the Futenma facility to another location on the island.
The Marine Corps has tried to assuage Japanese fears about the aircraft, which has become a Marine Corps and Air Force workhorse in recent years, flying successfully in combat and rescue missions in Iraq, Afghanistan and even Libya as well as in relief and training operations in South Korea, the Philippines, Singapore, Thailand, Australia and Guam.
Multiple Marine Corps Osprey pilots from different units interviewed by Stars and Stripes during the course of the past two years have all insisted the aircraft is safe. They praised the aircraft for its increased cargo capacity, speed and durability under fire.
The Japanese are not alone in trying to purchase the Osprey. The Defense Department announced in October that Israel was buying six Osprey for its air force.
Japanese military scholars applauded the move to procure the aircraft, saying the Osprey is vital to Japan’s defense.
“Japan is an island nation, and for the defense of outlying islands, sending needed troops in a timely manner is crucial,” said Toshiyuki Shikata, professor at Teikyo University and a retired lieutenant general of Japan Ground Self-Defense Force. “The payload of the current Chinook is absurdly small. It has to be the Osprey, which has twice the payload, with threefold speed and has four times the flight distance.”
Shikata said the Osprey is safe and is an effective deterrent to nations involved in land and resource disputes with Japan. He said its ability in relief operations is sure to change perceptions.
“Should a crisis occur in Korean Peninsula, or Taiwan Strait, there is a need for quick evacuation of Japanese citizens,” he said. “The Ospreys have the capability for such operations, which is not possible with conventional helicopters.”
Two Ospreys stopped at Yokota Air Base, west of Tokyo, for the first time Saturday, where they were scheduled to refuel en route to the July 20 Sapporo Air Show. The Ospreys’ participation in the Sapporo Air Show is aimed at raising public awareness of the aircraft.
The Kyodo News agency reported Friday that the Sapporo municipal government requested that the organizer of a weekend air show stop the arrival of two U.S. Marine Corps MV-22 Osprey aircraft because of safety concerns among local residents.
Japan eyes buying Ospreys as US looks to expand fleet to mainland - Japan - Stripes
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Versus its combat record ? Did you even bothered to research that ? Probably not.
One of the major causes of development testing came from the differences between how rotary wings aircraft differs from fixed wings aircrafts in terms of pilot operations. Did you even bothered to research those differences ? Probably not.
And far superior than the helo in many ways. The trade offs are more than acceptable. Your PLA wish Chinese aviation have the expertise to develop something like the Osprey.
Precisely. The Ospreys are perfect for carrier-based operations. And it goes in line with JMSDF's plans to acquire 3-4 WASP class amphibious assault ships from the United States.
Ospreys have the capability of being used as troop transports, to excellent gunships, and even can accommodate ASW capability
They are in a league of their own.
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An Osprey and helo mix for Japan will make the Japanese Navy a valuable and powerful ally in any sea based multinational military operation.
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If you add in the F-35Bs, Japan will have a powerful sea based aviation deterrent.
Onodera did address that we are interested in increasing our current orders of F-35As, as we are expecting to retire our fleet of F-15Js from the Japan Air Self Defense Force (JASDF) in the coming years. We have over 120 F-15Js in the air fleet, and since we expect to retain the sane numerical quantity, then, we are looking at acquiring an additional 100 more F-35As. Our only concern is the cost; but we expect the cost to decrease as production increases.
In regards to the F-35Bs, this will be a reality. We are currently building our 2nd Izumo-Class Carrier (a light carrier), and our Defense Ministry have expressed an interest in acquiring 3 to 4 (most probably 4) WASP class Amphibious Assault Ships to augment the Kaijo Jeitai Rengo Kantai (Japan Maritime Self Defense Force - Combined Fleet).
At the same time, JMSDF is training some 3500 amphibious assault troops. This amphibious assault force is identical to the now-defunct Kaigun Rikusentai (Imperial Japanese Naval Amphibious Assault Force; it numbered up to 150,000 during the peak of the war). Japan's new Rikusentai is currently being trained by the United States Marine Corp and the United States Seals.
The JMSDF is planning to train and maintain about 25,000 to 30,000 Rikusentai -- and to augment the Kaijo Jeitai (JMSDF).
From left to right: US Marine, JGSDF (Japan ground self defense force soldier), JMSDF Rikusentai (Marine assault force troop)
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Without recent "peaceful rise" of China, I admit that I will never support Japan re-arm.
But, I agree with many members here, that China triggered the re-arm process of Japan, lead to even nuclear weapon competent.
Every countries love this bird, even China.
But, I agree with many members here, that China triggered the re-arm process of Japan, lead to even nuclear weapon competent.
Every countries love this bird, even China.
Before we never considered China as a threat. But with North Korea's belligerence, and the China's rather obtrusive policy towards hegemony, which is in clear violation of the 1978 Treaty of Peace and Friendship with Japan, Japan is forced to awaken from our pacifism to a more robust military and geopolitical policy.
What you are seeing is just the beginning. As Japan enters the global stage as a military power, we have just begun to partner with foreign countries in military R&D. Just these past 2 months, we have signed military R&D partnerships with:
1) Israel, 2) Australia, 3) France, and 4) the United Kingdom.The future is bright for Japan and the rest of Asia - Pacific.
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Before we never considered China as a threat. But with North Korea's belligerence, and the China's rather obtrusive policy towards hegemony, which is in clear violation of the 1978 Treaty of Peace and Friendship with Japan, Japan is forced to awaken from our pacifism to a more robust military and geopolitical policy.
What you are seeing is just the beginning. As Japan enters the global stage as a military power, we have just begun to partner with foreign countries in military R&D. Just these past 2 months, we have signed military R&D partnerships with:
1) Israel, 2) Australia, 3) France, and 4) the United Kingdom.The future is bright for Japan and the rest of Asia - Pacific.
I believe Japan is the one who violated the peace treaty with China due to the illegal purchase of Diaoyu. With the arms race triggered, we can see more rapid modernization by the PLA
I believe Japan is the one who violated the peace treaty with China due to the illegal purchase of Diaoyu. With the arms race triggered, we can see more rapid modernization by the PLA
1. Your 9 dash claim is a clear act of hegemony and violates the Treaty our nations had
2. Your intrusion into our maritime domain and air domain is in clear violation of our Treaty
3. Japan has adminstered Senakakus since 1895. Americans had occupied it after the war and was handed over to Japan in the 1970s. We effectively nationalized it and formalized our administrative hold.
4. Bring it on, baby....
We have 2 light carrier classes: 1) Hyuga Class and 2) Izumo Class.
Japan has 2 ships of the Hyuga Class, the JS Hyuga and the JS Ise. As for the Izumo Class, we have 1 ship that is already active (JS Izumo) and the 2nd one is currently being built.
The Hyuga Class Light Carrier
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1. Your 9 dash claim is a clear act of hegemony and violates the Treaty our nations had
2. Your intrusion into our maritime domain and air domain is in clear violation of our Treaty
3. Japan has adminstered Senakakus since 1895. Americans had occupied it after the war and was handed over to Japan in the 1970s. We effectively nationalized it and formalized our administrative hold.
4. Bring it on, baby....
The 9 dash claim is not drawn in recent years dude
The nine-dotted line was originally an eleven-dotted-line first shown on a map published by the Kuomintang government of the Republic of China (1912–1949) in December 1947 to justify its claims in the South China Sea.[3] After the Communist Party of China took over mainland China and formed the People's Republic of China in 1949, the line was adopted and revised to nine as endorsed by Zhou Enlai.
Before the illegal purchase there were hardly any problems between China and Japan's economic relations. But i guess such a move is needed for China to realize we need to speed things up
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