RAW has established $500 million special cell to sabotage CPEC: CJCSC

[Chhatrapati]

In every country. not just yours or mine.

Huge sums are spent already which means continuous funding.


Its another way of sending the message across the border.

You can believe that.

Ciao!

 

[Signalian]

You can believe that.

Ciao!

Touche', like i said no one is asking you to believe.

bye

 

[The Eagle]

Looks like a statement without proper thought.

US designating LeT, JuD or anyone else has very little to do with what India does in Afghanistan. We don’t influence the decision over coalition support fund and it will be between US and Pakistan.

Statement without proper thought??? Secretary should have consulted someone before, though. However, it was an attempted influence earlier but turned down later by US for knowing the real interests. The position w.r.t. having influence etc would have been different if India did succeed in this one but No hence, angelic faces.

And India is not in Afghanistan only for the terror groups who work against India. India has legitimate economic interest in that reason.

India was never threatened by any group in Afghanistan but it was Pakistan at receiving end, therefore, taking advantage to do more damage and utilize the disposables, India jumped in with economic or anything else reason. Economics, construction, friendly ties or progressive approach are mere cover of the story to tell the masses though, deep inside there is always strategic need to contain Pakistan and China by doing so. What economics does Afghanistan have to offer India as compare to economy of US, China or any first world country. The reason are far different than your thoughts my friend or either you are deliberately ignoring as such.

Good, now by any remote chance CEPC fails, it will be easy to put all blame on R&AW, India and hide your own incompetence behind that. That's why making such tall claims without providing even an IOTA of evidence. LOL

NO, it is told that despite all such funding, the project will not just move ahead but terrorists will be dealt while money will go down the drain. However, it is transpired that what devil's play is Modi at and how Doval is keen yet desperate to prove the worth. Such funding is to disrupt the progress and statement based upon findings, Intel and observations is actually made so that the world may see the other side of so-called friendliness as well as the thought that CPEC does not matter to India. This is not that easy to make such a cover story only to scapegoat in-case or allegedly failure of CPEC. This kind of investment actually proves that even Indian Establishment is aware that nothing can stop CPEC however, low level shots can continue their entertainment the way they want to.

Come on you cant wake up a person who is acting asleep. Actually a zero is missing from the OP figure, it should be $5000 Millions.

How about not to troll and start learning before jumping on the gun if, the very intention is not about to make fun, remain a troll and disturb discussion by throwing such tantrums. If there is no problem, you can ignore and stop posting such useless lines and provocative remarks. On other hand, try to add something debatable as well as productive with quality.

 

[pothead]

India is wasting it's money.
Why need to target something that will eventually destroy our enemy?

Let China build CPEC and eat away the enemy from within. We have seen this model repeated throughout history. Why stop it and save our enemy from barbadi?!!

It's stupid I say. GOI should kindly stop this foolish plan to save our enemy.

 

[Tom M]

NO, it is told that despite all such funding, the project will not just move ahead but terrorists will be dealt while money will go down the drain. However, it is transpired that what devil's play is Modi at and how Doval is keen yet desperate to prove the worth. Such funding is to disrupt the progress and statement based upon findings, Intel and observations is actually made so that the world may see the other side of so-called friendliness as well as the thought that CPEC does not matter to India. This is not that easy to make such a cover story only to scapegoat in-case or allegedly failure of CPEC. This kind of investment actually proves that even Indian Establishment is aware that nothing can stop CPEC however, low level shots can continue their entertainment the way they want to.

As I have stated in my previous comment and being a senior member and moderator of PDF, I'm asking again. Where is an IOTA of proof about the fund to substantiate his claims ????? As long as no single proof is put forward it will remain blind claims just for local consumption, nothing else.

 

[H!TchHiker]

In your country. Not mine.

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Wrong, even in your country RAW budget is not subject to audit or scrutiny either by Parliament committee or CAG.

 

[AntiToxic]

Just as i expected. You really have no idea about intel ops. Operatives caught in action are the main source, based on their information, radio and encrypted message intercepts and monitoring of other operatives leading to nabbing the leader of the Ops brings out such information. Its small fish leading to the bigger fish.

Provide the proof..... you just cant say something and in a seminar and people will believe it... better prepare one more dossier and give it to UN.... Pakistan has good experience in preparing dossiers.

 

[The Eagle]

As I have stated in my previous comment and being a senior member and moderator of PDF, I'm asking again. Where is an IOTA of proof about the fund to substantiate his claims ????? As long as no single proof is put forward it will remain blind claims just for local consumption, nothing else.

So you conditioned being me moderator or senior member, with proof of black funding that none ever proved. We both know the game. However, it depends upon who is saying and seeing the status of CJCSC, you don't need to believe it contrary to others. For a reference, you can read Kulbhashan as a start.

I am surprised that even being so mature, how could you ask as such or it was deliberate attempt. Don't you think that if CJCSC claimed it, means he knew will be asked to prove and possibilities, findings and evidences are always shared with concerned authority so if you are seeking for proof, you have to prove yourself worthy of it and rest is up-to you as how to do this.

 

[Tom M]

So you conditioned being me moderator or senior member, with proof of black funding that none ever proved. We both know the game. However, it depends upon who is saying and seeing the status of CJCSC, you don't need to believe it contrary to others. For a reference, you can read Kulbhashan as a start.

I am surprised that even being so mature, how could you ask as such or it was deliberate attempt. Don't you think that if CJCSC claimed it, means he knew will be asked to prove and possibilities, findings and evidences are always shared with concerned authority so if you are seeking for proof, you have to prove yourself worthy of it and rest is up-to you as how to do this.

Yes, and it applies either ways. Just as you said we both know the game. So it's not a hidden fact either about Pakistan's involvement in India. But I often read some of your countrymen going to the extend claiming all that happens in India as falseflag and that happens within Pakistan is instigated by India. I wonder why some guy's are so hypocrites. :-(

India is wasting it's money.
Why need to target something that will eventually destroy our enemy?

Let China build CPEC and eat away the enemy from within. We have seen this model repeated throughout history. Why stop it and save our enemy from barbadi?!!

It's stupid I say. GOI should kindly stop this foolish plan to save our enemy.

Why worry mate ?? Mark my words, CEPC will be the magic-wand for the permanent solution of Kashmir issue on our terms. Just wait and see it happen in 3 - 4 decades.

 

[Kedardel]

Well no, stable Pakistan is not a threat to India. Its a defence shield like Himalayas in North for India.
India cannot afford Pakistan to go unstable. Pakistan is too important for India to be allowed to be unstable.
If not for Pakistani hatred for India, India would have made sure that there is peace in Pakistan by way of making investments in Dams Roads Electricity etc. like China but on a friendly credit.
In case of formation of any small country out of Pakistan (No disrespect meant, figuratively speaking) India will have a mutual security pact with that country, any dismemberment has to have Indian control over it.
Pakistan is too good in absorbing the Middle Eastern, Central Asian including afghan insurgent hordes, to be honest Pakistani public faces the trouble which if not for stable Pakistan and Pakistani Army, would have been directed to India.
But that doesnt mean India should leave Pakistani Army idle. India must keep Pakistani Armed forces busy on the western side of its own borders. If it is correct then 500 Million Ds will definitely keep Pakistani Armed Forces for quite sometime.

and Stable pakistan is a threat to India.

 

[The Eagle]

Yes, and it applies either ways. Just as you said we both know the game. So it's not a hidden fact either about Pakistan's involvement in India. But I often read some of your countrymen going to the extend claiming all that happens in India as falseflag and that happens within Pakistan is instigated by India. I wonder why some guy's are so hypocrites. :-(

Speaking of false flags, big names in the game, are well aware that who and when did it. Such game is based upon any type warfare. However, claiming as such is based upon occasions, tactics, ground damage as compare to goals achieved by alleged victim, timing and how the details surfaced/shared with world that sometimes takes either a long break. People are people and there are different circumstances as to claim many things. Just for the reference and not to derail the topic but Samjhota Express and few other Ops, are actually on record away from people. It is always the repute of one contrary to the claims and big fishes are aware that how such happens.

 

[Kedardel]

Stability for Pakistan is any regime loosely controlled by Pakistan. If Taliban tomorrow goes against the mandate of Pakistan, then Pakistan wont let them be at helm of the affairs.
But would Talibans go against Pakistan hmmm the coming decade will tell us. India has invested in Dams and Roads, now Afghans have alternate route to Pakistani route for material. Any force be it Taliban/Kabul Regime in control of these Dam, Road and trading Route can have independent policy (there are multi countries supporting Afghans India alone cant support a country). Empowering Afghans by India would mean that there would be a point when one with the control with the above assets would be more powerful and there wont be a deadlock. Even if it comes under the control of Talibans they will have independent policy. Just note how the present President of Afghanistan developed its dislike for Pakistan. Its a matter of time Pakistan loses its grip. The above money invested by RAW would further go a long way to stretch Pakistani Army.

I made no mention of Pakistan's role. But I'll go into that later. First of all, what you think a stable government is and what you think instability is when it comes to Afghanistan is probably mostly wrong anyway. A stable Afghanistan from our perspective is one that can enforce governance across most of Afghanistan, not be actively contested by one group or another, and most importantly would at the very least limit stability to the South and Eastern regions that border us.

This may be a declaration to enhance security threat perception. Without security threat how can a Fauz be all powerful ?

India is wasting it's money.
Why need to target something that will eventually destroy our enemy?
Let China build CPEC and eat away the enemy from within. We have seen this model repeated throughout history. Why stop it and save our enemy from barbadi?!!
It's stupid I say. GOI should kindly stop this foolish plan to save our enemy.

 

[Jungibaaz]

Stability for Pakistan is any regime loosely controlled by Pakistan. If Taliban tomorrow goes against the mandate of Pakistan, then Pakistan wont let them be at helm of the affairs.

I was hoping my previous elaboration would help you understand, but clearly it hasn't. If it was the case that Pakistan had total control, and US pressure and foreign presence hadn't kept any ambitions of ours at bay, we could have easily have allowed the taliban to have taken control again. It would be easy. But it hasn't happened, and it might not happen if the situation isn't dealt with badly.

But would Talibans go against Pakistan hmmm the coming decade will tell us. India has invested in Dams and Roads, now Afghans have alternate route to Pakistani route for material. Any force be it Taliban/Kabul Regime in control of these Dam, Road and trading Route can have independent policy (there are multi countries supporting Afghans India alone cant support a country). Empowering Afghans by India would mean that there would be a point when one with the control with the above assets would be more powerful and there wont be a deadlock. Even if it comes under the control of Talibans they will have independent policy. Just note how the present President of Afghanistan developed its dislike for Pakistan. Its a matter of time Pakistan loses its grip. The above money invested by RAW would further go a long way to stretch Pakistani Army.

I'm facepalming right now, I just told you the error of thinking this way. Clearly you haven't even considered any of the points I made.

You and others are more than welcome to continue thinking this way, eventually you will be proven wrong. We understand Afghanistan a lot better.

 

[hussain0216]

Well no, stable Pakistan is not a threat to India.

More stable Pakistan is more money and weapons directed at india, look what we have achived on a budget, imagine what we could do with a stable and growing economy

And you are wrong hate for india has made Pakistan independent it means Pakistan relies on india for nothing and india is not allowed access to the Pakistani market


Peace would be horrible, it may have meant integration with a bigger india and ultimately a toothless unarmed Pakistan

Look we have a ISI and military for this purpose, india has countless fissures and chasms from Assam to Indian muslim population to kashmir to Khalistan.
They can try and its ISI responsibility to hit them in Afghanistan snd hit them in india whilst defending Pakistan

Of course india are going to try but its our responsibility to fight back and hard

 

[Great Sachin]

Pakistani give too much importance to CPEC.....in next 30-40 yrs, petroleum will be finished from earth....what China will import from middle east using CPEC.."sand"?

Chinese need road connectivity from all the possible sides...I believe CPEC is nothing but strategic route ..not an economic route for Chinese....

Chinese are making roads on Pakistan money (loans) and giving employment to Chinese people....and once Pakistan unable to pay loans, they will just acquire Gilgit Baltistan against loan and they have done exactly the same with other countries already...