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Rare video: Bangladeshi freedom fighters are taking oath in 1971

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Ahhh ! :agree:

So Can you please tell me some stereotypes about Waziris so that I can get even with @Hyperion ! :azn:
Dunno about wazirs (although have a few wazir friends).. But Mehsuds unfortunately have a bad reputations that they arent trust worthy).. Local "taaaaak" If you know what I mean ..


Much like us Marris .. They say we are savage and friends of no one ۔۔
 
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When col robert arrived in baluchistan the simple baluch thought he was a baba .. :lol: after that a series of wars were fought .. But like other states the main States signed treaties with the British .. Hence they remained neutrals meanwhile the marris,khetrans and some other tribes didn't end the resistance... Accounts of Baluch raids on brtish settlements are kinda funny aswell speak of valour .. Read about some Marri raid on british fort or whatever in kohlu (British army history site).. How wild men armed with swords attacked them (they were told by their local mullah that they were protected by God and hence no bullet would touch them) and so on...

you had scholars/freedom fighter like Muhammad Khan Marri, Giddu Doom, Mir Mihrab Khan etc.

huge proponents of Baloch traditions and identity
 
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Dunno about wazirs (although have a few wazir friends).. But Mehsuds u fortunately have a bad reputations that they arenb trust worthy).. Local "taaaaak" If you know what I mean ..


Much like us Marris .. They say we are savage and friends of no one ۔۔

Talking about Marris; now that Khair Buksh Sahib is gone who's the new chieftain of the Marri Clan ? :undecided:
 
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Oh please the Baluch of Baluchistan are such big Chickens; the bravest Baluch are from Southern Punjab ! :whistle:

Mir Chakar Khan Rind is our boy ! :smokin:

Chakar khan was from Baluchistan himself.. Seriki speaking baluch .. Don't know what to say about them..
 
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you had scholars/freedom fighter like Muhammad Khan Marri, Giddu Doom, Mir Mihrab Khan etc.

huge proponents of Baloch traditions and identity
How many people know about them or freedom fighters from other provinces for that matter ?

We as a nation are pathetic..
 
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they are crazy no doubt, but one thing is for sure, Pashtun are yaaron ka yaar , when it comes to friendship & courage nothing can beat a "Pashtun"
the only people the British fought against the hardest & also gave them respected at the same time, were Pashtuns & Ghurkha's

for all other races in south Asia the brits had "perks", but for those two crazy son of a guns the brits had Respect !
both are people of hill/mountain and both society has low value for human life and more value for honour. (and related emotions)
They are a bit like scots ... :whistle:
 
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The difference between terrorists and freedom fighters is not that difficult actually

That's my point too. The difference is easily understood by the rest of the world, only Pakistanis have trouble understanding it. Remember, you are the one who brought the term 'terrorists' into this thread. It is you who have a confusion.

The definition is simple- people who uses violence to achieve political aim

Umm..no. That would make every army, navy and air force, every single combatant a terrorist. Was the Pak army terrrorists, when they started operation gibraltar in 1965?

Those who deliberately inflict violence on civilians, non combatants - that' whom we call terrorists. Those who attempt political aims by terrorization of the civilian population. That is why the firebombing of cities in the world wars wass called 'terror bombing'. That is also why your lashkies and mujjus are terrorists, but organized fighting forces like Mukti Bahini that wage war against standing armies like the PA are freedom fighters.

Either the Bangladesh cause was political or the kashmiri cause is- or both- or not-you just can not just endorse one as freedim fighters while others as terrorists-

For the gazzillionth time - it is not the cause that makes the difference, it is the means. If your army tries to fight the Indian army to take the Kashmir that you want, it is war, not terrorism. But your sending non uniformed lashkies and mujjus to cause bomb blasts or shoot innocent people or do things like chittisinghpura massacre - that's terrorism.

Only purelanders have a hard time understanding this.

When you have to arrest political kashmiri leaders

Only Kashmiri separatist leaders get arrested on sensitive occasions as precautionary measure, and get released in a few days. The legitimate leaders are elected by Kashmiris and work inside the legislative assembly or parliament on their behalf. The separatists are lucky to be Indians - in most other countries, seditious people get a bullet in their heads, not govt accommodation and food. Didn't Bugti get a missile instead of a jail term? How many Indian Kashmiri separatists have gotten that treatment?

It's preposterous for you to lecture us on such matters, when you cannot aspire to match our moral standing in a million years.

You blatantly supported terrorism inside Pakistan during 71 where you should have minded your own business- and now cry foul when same is done to you
We supported a freedom movement, and our proteges founded a new country, and the native population cheered and garlanded our army colums when we moved in, and treated us like the liberating heroes we were. On the other hand, your terrorists are just that - terrorists who do random acts of violence, and accomplish nothing. As for crying - we don't cry and surrender en masse like the mard-e-momins did in B'desh - we kill every infiltrating terrorist, and frustrate Pakistan's knavish tricks, and keep our most troubled state more peaceful than any part of the pureland.

As per your condition kashmiri people are trained by ISI and will soon become a formidable fighting force

Comprehension issues? Yes, they are trained and armed by the ISI, but my point is that they will not become formidable fighting forces, like the organized battalions of MBs became. That's the difference between the genius of RAW, and the impotence of "the world's best intel agency" that can't even sniff out terrorists within their own country.

Your proteges will remain terrorists doing mindless and random acts of terror. They will never become nation builders, they will never be organized into proper large sized figting units with proper command and control, they will never take an inch of Kashmir from India.

You tried that tactic of non uniformed terrorists after your army lost the will to openly take on India in honourable warfare.And even then you failed, they cannot get Kashmir either.
 
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@extra terrestrial : Now do you see what I mentioned about Pakistanis not understanding the difference between freedom fighting and terrorism, although it is so clear to the rest of the world?
 
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Muslim Brothers fighting each other its not new in history. From early days of Islam it started.

Conflicts for Caliphate

Mughals fighting against other Muslims

Arab revolt against Ottoman empire

Jordan Palestine conflict

Bangladesh Pakistan conflict

Latest addition Syrian rebels fighting against its government

Nothing shameful and sad here. We are true Muslims and repeated our true history.
 
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Muslim Brothers fighting each other its not new in history. From early days of Islam it started.

Conflicts for Caliphate

Mughals fighting against other Muslims

Arab revolt against Ottoman empire

Jordan Palestine conflict

Bangladesh Pakistan conflict

Latest addition Syrian rebels fighting against its government

Nothing shameful and sad here. We are true Muslims and repeated our true history.
To be fair, humans always fought ech other for most of history. What is hypocritical is that muslims theoretically believe that islam is a religion of peace, and that muslims will not harm each other, and an that ummah will be at peace, although they have been fighting each others and others since islam began, with the prophet himself waging wars. They continued the very same fights and wars that other people at the time did, either to bring about the dreamt ummah, or to figure out who is the real muslim, or to make others muslims, or for economic and political reasons like christians and hindus and everybody else did. What is sad is that from the late 20th and early 21rst century, most other people have learnt to live in peace and worry only about prosperity, rather than about siezing power for themselves.
 
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