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Rafale For Bangladesh? 1st Time In 33 Years, French President Visits Dhaka As Dassault & Eurofighter Compete For BAF Deal​

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Ritu Sharma
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September 11, 2023
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With Eurofighter Typhoon and Dassault Rafale locked in a competition to win the contract to supply fighter jets for Bangladesh Air Force (BAF), French President Emmanuel Macron quickly dashed to Dhaka. The visit from a French President to Bangladesh has come after 33 years.

Bangladesh plans to modernize its armed forces under the Forces Goals 2030. Under the plan, the BAF already inducted 16 Chengdu J-7 fighter jets from China. Apart from this, Bangladesh floated a tender for eight Multi-Role Combat Aircraft (MRCA) in the financial year 2017-2018. The tender can order four more aircraft in the second tranche.

The BAF was actively scouring the contenders when COVID-19 threw a spanner in its modernization plans. India has also put its indigenous Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) in the fray and is trying to leverage its geographical contiguity. Bangladesh, however, is leaning towards a European fighter jet.

“Bangladesh will likely opt for a European aircraft – Eurofighter Typhoon or French Rafale. But nothing is final before the next elections,” the Bangladeshi official told the EurAsian Times. “With Rafale being operated by the Indian Air Force, the odds of a Eurofighter Typhoon have increased,” the official added.

India has inducted 36 Rafales in its air force and is purchasing 26 Rafale M for its navy for aircraft-based operations. The induction into the IAF has changed the fortune of Rafale, manufactured by the French airspace major Dassault.

The hope that the fighter jet deal for BAF will not be finalized until next year could have been one of the factors in bringing the French President’s visit to Bangladesh to fruition at the 11th hour. President Macron was in India attending the G-20 summit when it was decided that he would be in Dhaka for the historic two-day visit to further the bilateral ties between the two countries.

France-Bangladesh relations have witnessed a significant boost over the last several years, and the bilateral trade between the two countries is worth over three billion Euros. Bangladesh’s first-ever satellite, Bangabandhu-1, was made by the French company Thales.

Dassault Rafale Vs. Eurofighter Typhoon Dogfight

Rafale and Eurofighter are two contemporaries of military aviation, which have been locked in fierce competition several times. Both medium-weight aircraft have European origins.

Five European countries initially came together to build a European fighter jet. There would have been no Rafale had France not parted ways from the consortium because of disagreements over the features and capabilities of the fighter jet.


The UK, Germany, Spain, and Italy wanted an air superiority fighter, drawing their lessons from the Cold War. France, on the other hand, wanted a lightweight fighter jet with more navy-capable weapons.

Professor Justin Bronk, Senior Research Fellow for Airpower and Military Technology at Royal United Services Institute, while enunciating the difference between the two fighter jets, said: “With common DNA in terms of initial development and requirements setting work before France split away from what became the Eurofighter consortium to develop the Rafale, it is unsurprising that both aircraft have relatively similar design philosophies compared to their competitors globally.”

“The biggest source of differences comes from the French requirement that the basic airframe design be suitable for CATOBAR carrier operations, which carries particular requirements in relatively high-alpha, low-speed handling, especially with external stores still attached,” Prof. Bronk adds.

Dassault’s Rafale is a twin-engine fighter jet capable of carrying out long- and short-range missions. True to its categorization of ‘omni-role,’ the aircraft can be deployed for surveillance, air-to-ground strikes, and air-to-air dogfights and can even carry tactical nuclear weapons. The aircraft operates in the French Navy and French Air Force.

The aircraft is also battle-proven, having participated in Afghanistan, Mali, Libya, Syria, and Iraq.

The French Air and Space Force (FASF) operates the F3-R standard version of Rafale. It was developed and launched at the end of 2013 and was inducted into the FASF in 2018. This fighter jet version is an upgraded version of the Rafale F3 standard. The F3-R version carries the Meteor long-range-air-to-air missile produced by MBDA.

It is equipped with the Thales Talios new-generation laser designator pod that gives it high precision in air-to-ground strikes. It also has a laser-homing version of the Safran Air-to-Ground Modular Weapon, from which comes its capability to destroy targets at ranges of several tens of kilometers with metric precision. It is also adapted to strike mobile targets. The sensors in this version have also been upgraded to ensure interoperability.

When it comes to weapons, the Indian Rafale is a beast. The Indian Rafale has 14 hard points, allowing it to carry a payload of over nine tons. The Indian-specific enhancements include Air-Air Surface Missiles Hammer, SCALP ‘Storm Shadow’ long-range air-ground cruise missile, and Meteor air-air missiles with more range and accuracy. Meteor gives Indian Rafales the capability to shoot down enemy aircraft over 100 kilometers without crossing the border.

Rafale emerged as the preferred aircraft among various contenders in the Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) competition for the Indian Air Force in what was then called the biggest military aviation contract in the world. Its closest contender was Eurofighter’s Typhoon. The tender was canceled, and the Indian government purchased 36 Rafales directly from the French government.

Eurofighter Typhoon is a delta-winged, beyond-visual-range, close-air fighter aircraft with surface attack capability. The Eurofighter can ‘supercruise’ or fly at sustained speeds over Mach 1 without needing an afterburner.

Storm Shadow
File Image: Rafale Fighter
French pilot Pierre-Henri Chuet, who took Dassault Rafale M into combat in Iraq, while talking about Eurofighter Typhoon, said in an interview with Hush-Kit Aviation: “I don’t know why they are compared so often – it’s not the same design, ideas or philosophy. We’re a truly omni-role platform.

“Typhoons are great; they use their big engines at 40,000 feet. I can’t count how many times I’ve shot down Typhoons at 45,000 feet in the contrails. And my radar was off, everything off; I was coming from 100 feet below, supersonic in the climb from below. Absolutely undetected. So, I have absolutely no fear of the Typhoons.”

He says that the Typhoon’s performance at high altitudes is exemplary. “But as a Rafale pilot, I’m stupid if I take him on like that, so I’m going to move the combat a bit. I’ll fake combat at 50,000 feet, and I’m going to send a guy sneakily low level to surprise the Typhoon; it’s easier than you think!”

The two aircraft are highly unlikely to face each other in combat. Talking about formidable air defenses against Rafale, Chuet said: “I am not sure an aircraft’s stealth is going to make much difference anyway against very modern stuff. We are not afraid of low-level penetrations in the French Air Force.” “So come and get me with your (Russian) S-400 if I’m at 200 feet above the ground — that’s not going to happen anytime soon,” he said.

  • Ritu Sharma has been a journalist for over a decade, writing on defense, foreign affairs, and nuclear technology.
  • She can be reached at ritu.sharma (at) mail.com

 
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India operates Rafale, so Bangladesh can opt for Eurofighter​

By Boyko Nikolov on September 11, 2023

The Eurofighter Typhoon and the Dassault Rafale are competing for a contract to provide the Bangladesh Air Force with advanced fighter jets. Bangladesh is boosting its military strength through a plan called Forces Goals 2030, aimed at updating its armed forces. This has resulted in obtaining 16 Chengdu J-7 fighter jets from China, greatly improving the Air Force’
Spanish and German Eurofighters in Estonia begin alert missions
Photo credit: Luftwaffe

In the 2017-2018 fiscal year, Bangladesh announced a request for eight Multi-Role Combat Aircraft. The Bangladesh Air Force’s modernization plans were halted by COVID-19. Despite this, India has put forth its indigenous Light Combat Aircraft for consideration. However, Bangladesh seems to be leaning towards a European fighter jet.

The possibility exists that Bangladesh may be leaning towards the acquisition of a European aircraft, specifically the formidable Eurofighter Typhoon or the French Rafale. However, the Bangladeshi official imparted to the EurAsian Times that no definitive decision will be made prior to the upcoming elections.

‘Because of India’​

French Rafale F5 coming with emphasis on EW and SEAD in 2030
Photo credit: Twitter

The official further proclaimed, “The Indian Air Force’s operation of the Rafale has notably elevated the likelihood of the Eurofighter Typhoon’s deployment.” India has added 36 Rafales to its air force and is buying 26 Rafale M for its navy from French manufacturer Dassault.

The delay in the fighter jet deal for BAF may have contributed to French President Macron’s last-minute visit to Bangladesh, after attending the G-20 summit in India. This visit aimed to strengthen the ties between France and Bangladesh. France-Bangladesh relations have improved significantly in recent years, with a bilateral trade worth over three billion Euros. The first-ever Bangladeshi satellite, Bangabandhu-1, was built by French company Thales.

Inidan Rafale is a beast​

New munition under the French Rafale F4.1 wings - the AASM 1000
Photo credit: French MoD

In the realm of armament, the Indian Rafale stands apart as a formidable entity. It is equipped with 14 hard points, a feature that enables it to bear a considerable load exceeding nine tons.

The enhancements custom-tailored for India incorporate the highly precise Air-Air Surface Missiles Hammer, the formidable SCALP ‘Storm Shadow’ long-range air-ground cruise missile, and the extended reach and precision of the Meteor air-air missiles. The superior capability provided by Meteor empowers the Indian Rafales to neutralize enemy aircraft at distances exceeding 100 kilometers, thus eliminating the need to breach international borders.

In the highly competitive Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft [MMRCA] contest, the Rafale aircraft prominently distinguished itself as the preferred choice for the Indian Air Force. This competition was, at the time, globally recognized as the most substantial military aviation contract.

The Rafale, a state-of-the-art French aircraft, faced formidable competition from its closest rival, the Typhoon, meticulously engineered by Eurofighter. However, in a surprising turn of events, the tender process was abruptly terminated. In lieu of the conventional procurement process, the Indian government opted to acquire 36 Rafales in a direct government-to-government purchase from France.

UK will train Ukrainian pilots, even though it cannot train its own - eurofighter typhoon
Photo credit: Pixabay

Rafale and Eurofighter differences​

The Dassault Rafale and Eurofighter Typhoon are both advanced multirole fighter aircraft, but they have several key differences. One major difference is their country of origin. The Rafale is a French aircraft, developed by Dassault Aviation, while the Typhoon is a collaborative effort between several European countries including the UK, Germany, Italy, and Spain. This difference in origin has led to variations in design philosophy and technology used in the two aircraft.

In terms of armament, both aircraft are equipped with a wide range of weapons systems. The Rafale can carry a variety of air-to-air missiles, air-to-ground missiles, and precision-guided munitions. It is also capable of carrying nuclear weapons.

New world-class ECRS Mk2 radar for British Typhoons begins testing
Photo credit: UK MoD / Twitter
The Typhoon also has a similar range of armament options, including air-to-air missiles, air-to-ground missiles, and precision-guided bombs. However, the specific weapons carried by each aircraft may vary depending on the requirements of the country operating them.

When it comes to payload, the Rafale has a slightly higher maximum takeoff weight compared to the Typhoon. This means that it can carry a larger payload of weapons and fuel. The Rafale has 14 hardpoints for carrying external stores, while the Typhoon has 13. The Rafale also has a larger internal fuel capacity, giving it a longer range and endurance compared to the Typhoon.

Aircraft capabilities​

In terms of capabilities, both aircraft are highly advanced and have similar performance characteristics. They are both capable of supersonic speeds and have advanced avionics systems for navigation, communication, and targeting.

The Rafale is known for its versatility and can perform a wide range of missions including air superiority, ground attack, reconnaissance, and nuclear deterrence.

The Typhoon is also a highly capable multirole fighter, with a focus on air superiority and air defense missions. Both aircraft have been continuously upgraded to enhance their capabilities and keep up with evolving threats.

Greece received the first six of eighteen Rafale fighters
Photo credit: Dassault Aviation

While the Dassault Rafale and Eurofighter Typhoon share some similarities as advanced multirole fighters, they have distinct differences in terms of origin, armament, payload, and capabilities.

These differences reflect the unique design philosophies and requirements of the countries involved in their development. Ultimately, the choice between the two aircraft depends on the specific needs and preferences of the countries operating them.

Water resources​

India and Bangladesh are currently engaged in a number of ongoing disputes, with one of the major issues being the sharing of river waters. The two countries share several rivers, including the Ganges and the Brahmaputra, which are crucial for irrigation, drinking water, and transportation.

French Rafale F5 coming with emphasis on EW and SEAD in 2030
Photo credit: Reddit
Disagreements arise over the allocation of water resources, as both countries heavily rely on these rivers for their agricultural and economic activities.

The dispute often centers around the construction of dams and barrages that can impact the flow of water downstream, leading to concerns about water scarcity and environmental degradation.

Their land boundaries​

Another contentious issue between India and Bangladesh is the demarcation of their land boundaries. The two countries share a 4,096-kilometer-long border, which is one of the longest land borders in the world.

However, there are areas where the exact boundary line is disputed, leading to tensions and occasional border conflicts. These disputes primarily revolve around issues such as the ownership of enclaves, the presence of border fences, and the movement of people across the border.

Efforts have been made to resolve these disputes through diplomatic negotiations and border talks, but a final resolution is yet to be achieved.

 
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Both Rafale and typhoon are good fighter but while complying with seller country's requirements we have to fullfill requirements from multiple country if we opt for Eurofighter typhoon but if we go for Rafale we just need to comply with french.
Our economy is growing so the defence budget which crossing nearly 4 billion dollar hopefully we can afford few European fighter. Recently mayanamar took delivery of their su-30 we need to hurry.
 
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I am against buying such expensive aircraft for BAF. I am for inducting J-10D with Chinese engine. Both France and Britain have good defense relations with India and that's a matter of concern for us. Only China has strategic interest in Bangladesh because of our border with India. J-10D is cheap which means we can buy more J-10D aircraft with the same amount of money required to buy just 16 RAFALE/EUROFIGHTER. We must not push China away.
 
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I am against buying such expensive aircraft for BAF. I am for inducting J-10D with Chinese engine. Both France and Britain have good defense relations with India and that's a matter of concern for us. Only China has strategic interest in Bangladesh because of our border with India. J-10D is cheap which means we can buy more J-10D aircraft with the same amount of money required to buy just 16 RAFALE/EUROFIGHTER. We must not push China away.

Do you think buying any aircraft will protect your sovereignty if India wants to bomb the shit out of you guys? Most Bangladeshi airport are within artillery/rocket firing range from Indian borders. Within the first hour of war, hiding those aircrafts inside hardened shelter will be a bigger challenge than flying those.
 
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Do you think buying any aircraft will protect your sovereignty if India wants to bomb the shit out of you guys? Most Bangladeshi airport are within artillery/rocket firing range from Indian borders. Within the first hour of war, hiding those aircrafts inside hardened shelter will be a bigger challenge than flying those.
See, how playing too much video games affects your mental health?
 
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