Rafale deal: France says no to offset, yes to 'Make in India'

[saurav]

DOnt know why are we looking to integrate Astra on Rafale. ? We will have lots of other planes to use them. It seems IAF is acting too much again. Modi needs to give Shut up call.

 

[Luca1]

India is nickel and dining others too much when buying only 36 planes. It should be strictly org the shelve unless India wants to buy 126 again. Otherwise, India will get nothing.

 

[Thorough Pro]

It looks more like india is trying to run away from the deal by making outrageous demands and changes and want to blame the fault on the French.

 

[Mitro]

Indian don't have money to buy Rafael they are showing off by first trying to buy in hundreds and then backing of to small number.

Tejas is enough why Indian need Rafael in the first place

 

[GURU DUTT]

bhaio aur unki behno mubarak ho rafale deal is officialli dead

 

[Indian Patriot]

Always wanting to tinker and make a mutter paneer MKI version. Eh Jaapan se kharido, eh Israel se kharido, bhindi amreeka se, gaajar France se.

That is how the INSAS was made. Indian PSUs cannot innovate, they can only do jugaar my copying designs from everywhere.

It looks more like india is trying to run away from the deal by making outrageous demands and changes and want to blame the fault on the French.

That sadly looks like the case here.

Tejas is enough why Indian need Rafael in the first place

Because tejas is a joke and won't last 2 seconds against the F-16.

 

[Mitro]

But according to some Indian tejas is alien technology and can travel interplanetary distance with refueling OMG

That is how the INSAS was made. Indian PSUs cannot innovate, they can only do jugaar my copying designs from everywhere.



That sadly looks like the case here.



Because tejas is a joke and won't last 2 seconds against the F-16.

 

[Indian Patriot]

But according to some Indian tejas is alien technology and can travel interplanetary distance with refueling OMG

Only those Indians whose daily roti comes from DRDO and PSUs believe in such stupid claims. DRDO is what is holding back India's progress.

 

[Mitro]

I think they work for free because of fake pride that makes their chest 56"

Only those Indians whose daily roti comes from DRDO and PSUs believe in such stupid claims. DRDO is what is holding back India's progress.

 

[kirankumar299]

The sources said the offset clause will simply drive up the cost of each aircraft.

NEW DELHI: The French government has rejected Indian negotiators' demand for a 50 per cent offset clause citing sharp cost escalation but offered to participate in 'Make in India' projects to carry forward the talks for 36 Rafale fighter jets that have hit turbulence.

Defence sources said India's insistence on the offset clause, tweaking of weaponary technology and plans to set up two bases for Rafale fighter jets would lead to cost escalation.

Offset policy was first introduced as part of the Defence Procurement Procedure (DPP), 2005, under which a foreign company has to invest back a portion of the deal into India.

"The 50 per cent offset clause was part of the original tender that was floated for 126 fighter jets. The French President and Indian Prime Minister have now decided to go in for a direct purchase of 36 Rafale jets. So, how can 50 per cent offset clause be asked when the French are offering the fighters at the same rate at which its Air Force is buying," defence sources said.


They added the French have instead offered to undertake 'Make in India' initiatives. "The French can look at the option for making Falcon business jets in India or even the Rafales for future besides other projects," the sources said, adding the French government has made it clear that their companies would like to be part of 'Make in India' initiative.

The sources said the offset clause will simply drive up the cost of each aircraft.

It is not just the offset clause that the French are worried about. Indian Air Force wants to integrate a Israeli helmet mounted display with the Rafale fighter jets besides tweaking the weaponry technology so that the aircraft can fire a missile other than what the Rafales carry. The missile, sources said is of American make.

"The changes asked for are not like changing tyres in cars. It takes time, effort and money, all of which will again drive up the cost," the sources said.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Rafale-deal-France-says-no-to-offset-yes-to-Make-in-India/articleshow/48500796.cms

Forget this deal....and get Mig 35 as MMRCA with complete TOT and integrate israel avionics and weapons. It would be much cheaper and with AESA TOT will help desi AESA.