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Another Invasion of Austria? this time Turkish Republic? Some one should remind him of vienna.

Plus he was mostly being racist to Islam more than Turks , he probably still has Ottoman memories , why should we send our clever people to europe? we dont want a ''brain drain'' , most of turkish nationals in europe are kurds who couldnt find jobs in turkey and uneducated.
 
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You might notice that a lot of the bullshit that is produced in this forums for instance is made by foreign born Turks. In reality its not really different.
I'd like to know the reasons why, I mean they live (including me) in the most developed countries, get the best education and freedom and yet they turn ignorant.

In the Netherlands it's mostly the morrocans who feed bad apples into young turks mind..
 
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I know for a fact that Austria is a far more tolerant country than most other European countries including Germany. I think the Ambassador of Turkey made a very undiplomatic statement.

Diplomats should not make such statements publicly and they should leave these matters io the political leadership of their country.
 
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Another Invasion of Austria? this time Turkish Republic? Some one should remind him of vienna.

Plus he was mostly being racist to Islam more than Turks , he probably still has Ottoman memories , why should we send our clever people to europe? we dont want a ''brain drain'' , most of turkish nationals in europe are kurds who couldnt find jobs in turkey and uneducated.

True it's mostly the easterners.

You might notice that a lot of the bullshit that is produced in this forums for instance is made by foreign born Turks. In reality its not really different.
I'd like to know the reasons why, I mean they live (including me) in the most developed countries, get the best education and freedom and yet they turn ignorant.

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Another Invasion of Austria? this time Turkish Republic? Some one should remind him of vienna.

Plus he was mostly being racist to Islam more than Turks , he probably still has Ottoman memories , why should we send our clever people to europe? we dont want a ''brain drain'' , most of turkish nationals in europe are kurds who couldnt find jobs in turkey and uneducated.

You're not talking the truth, Turkey had brain-drain in the past, the difference is that the majority of the skilled Turks didn't move to a single country like the Iranians with the USA, they're spread all over the world. And even in the case of Germany or Austria people had to apply so they could immigrate and a lot of skilled Turks simply decided to do blue-collar work here because you could do it without knowing German (people believed back then that they would be back in Turkey within a few years) and because it was worth it (the payment was kicking *** for Turkish standards).
 
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I did not get you. Are you saying turkish people in europe are worse than those in turkey?

FAR WORSE! Just hang out in turkish section for a week and you will see , specially the ones from Denmark and Netherlands they are incredible they are trying the import jihad from the heart of europe and want to turn their non-islamic state homeland into islamic state.They want another Iran case and they are the ones born and raised in the West.Just whos brainwashing those guys out there? Perhaps because they are hanging out with other arab wahabist muslim communities...
 
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You might notice that a lot of the bullshit that is produced in this forums for instance is made by foreign born Turks. In reality its not really different.
I'd like to know the reasons why, I mean they live (including me) in the most developed countries, get the best education and freedom and yet they turn ignorant.

i swear to god turkey is heaven now , listen when i went holiday to turkey from europe , i look at their lifestyle and ours its like they are in heaven , look read this , in turkey my uncle a quite high ranked soldier got 3.000 tl per month , and his wife is teacher they get 2.500 tl per month , they bought very nice house for like 150,000 tl , but its great house , they have a cleaner and live like in heaven , in lets say UK in london , an average 3 bedroom house is like 250-£300,000 , and its some small and shitty houses with bad looking bricks , and a teacher who worked for a bit gets around £25,000 , food is expensive , many people i know who live in europe , who even moved recently are going back turkey to live , they said europe is dead now .

You're not talking the truth, Turkey had brain-drain in the past, the difference is that the majority of the skilled Turks didn't move to a single country like the Iranians with the USA, they're spread all over the world. And even in the case of Germany or Austria people had to apply so they could immigrate and a lot of skilled Turks simply decided to do blue-collar work here because you could do it without knowing German (people believed back then that they would be back in Turkey within a few years) and because it was worth it (the payment was kicking *** for Turkish standards).

no mate you are wrong , hardly anytime turkish ''skilled'' workers moved to europe in mass , it was usually people who lived in villages for a better life.
 
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FAR WORSE! Just hang out in turkish section for a week and you will see , specially the ones from Denmark and Netherlands they are incredible they are trying import jihad from the heart of europe and want to their non-islamic state homeland into islamic state.They want another Iran case and they are the ones born and raised in West.Just whos brainwashing those guys out there? Perhaps because they are hanging out with other arab wahabist muslim communities...

It's horribile. I hope they don't return to Turkey! The Germans are doing us a favor :D
 
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i swear to god turkey is heaven now , listen when i went holiday to turkey from europe , i look at their lifestyle and ours its like they are in heaven , look read this , in turkey my uncle a quite high ranked soldier got 3.000 tl per month , and his wife is teacher they get 2.500 tl per month , they bought very nice house for like 150,000 tl , but its great house , they have a cleaner and live like in heaven , in lets say UK in london , an average 3 bedroom house is like 250-£300,000 , and its some small and shitty houses with bad looking bricks , and a teacher who worked for a bit gets around £25,000 , food is expensive , many people i know who live in europe , who even moved recently are going back turkey to live , they said europe is dead now .

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I will move to Turkey as soon as I have my Bachelors degree, but still the reality is not as bright as you make it. Compare consumer electronic prices, meat prices. Now compare them to the average income.

It's horribile. I hope they don't return to Turkey! The Germans are doing us a favor :D

As a matter of fact there are still people immigrating to Germany from Turkey (far less a few thousands a year) and mostly uneducated and unskilled, but there are far more moving back to Turkey and those who move back are highly skilled/educated.
 
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I have been away for quite a time from this forum because i knew this would happen after a certain decision.
There are certain things i will say before taking another long winter sleep:

1: Danish Turks that i know personally are far more humane, trustable, fair than Turks from Turkey. Maybe that is because of the economic situations in Turkey. Maybe because of the incredibly low education quality in Turkish school. Maybe another third variable can explain this.

2: While it is true that people migrated to Europe because of extremely poor conditions in Turkey i don't understand certain people here who play smart with this. Turkey was worse off than African countries in pure economic terms before your beloved AKP took the scene. So what you are trying to play smart with is below any reason. At least educated Turks in Europe will bring higher standards to Turkey, and we are indeed seeing these fruits today, whether you want to acknowledge this is up to you.

3: Being a Muslim is not being a terrorist. I have tried to explain this to you guys, wake up smell the coffee. If i was a bad backwards terrorist because i am Muslim could you explain to me why i am studying in one of the best Universities in Europe. Or why i fast for almost 20 hours per day?
On the contrary, your lovely secularists has turned Turkey into a dump during their lifespan. We are just straightening things up after they literally destroyed this beautiful country.

To "what":
I am sure your parents left Turkey because they wanted to continue their succesful business in Germany.

To Deno:
I am not surprised you agree with the islamophobe.

Now you may continue your islam "bashing" ladies and gentlemen.
 
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I will move to Turkey as soon as I have my Bachelors degree, but still the reality is not as bright as you make it. Compare consumer electronic prices, meat prices. Now compare them to the average income.



As a matter of fact there are still people immigrating to Germany from Turkey (far less a few thousands a year) and mostly uneducated and unskilled, but there are far more moving back to Turkey and those who move back are highly skilled/educated.

I'm surprised why most tusks never married Germans and got ethnically absorbed into Germany. Why can't the Turks in Germany be like the jews in the 20s where they comprised the largest numbers of scientist, intellectualism and had a strong presence in politics in Germany. No far right nut bag would touch them..
 
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I didn't see many things wrong in this speech, apart from the obvious dramatizing and the personal attack of a colleague, the latter being rude. Nor did I detect flagrant racism against the Turks.
The man speaks from the heart (or he is just capitalizing on the sentiments, which any good politician would do), but he is right for the most part. He is not targeting the Turkish state on racial grounds, but on the hypocrisy and double talk of the Turkish leaders.

On one hand Erdogan has been saying that Turkish immigrants should not integrate into European societies, on the other hand a Turkish ambassador is telling that Austria is at fault for not integrating Turkish immigrants into its society.

When I came living here in Holland from Germany a few years ago, I could write and speak Dutch fluently within six months. .
I look around and see many Turkish and other immigrants who have been living here for 10 to 40 years, but they can't even formulate one good Dutch sentence after residing for so long here. How are Europeans here at fault, when some immigrants don't even bother to learn the language of their new adopted country?
A few weeks ago I watched a documentary on immigrants. One Turkish guy was saying: every time I come to the centre of the city, I'm surprised, I see Dutch people. I mean lol. You live in Holland and you're surprised to see Dutch folks. :lol:
This remark, aside from being hilarious and disheartening at the same, exemplifies the crux of the problem in Europe, a matter which the Austrian politician is relating to.

The real issue here is the disinterest and disregard of some/many immigrants for their host countries and their unwillingness to fit in society. Europe has done more than enough to accommodate them. If Europe wants to avoid in becoming one big ghetto, just as some parts of Europe's big cities have become, people should tell the ground realities and speak their minds freely.
 
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Big Mac Index - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Purchasing power parity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I will move to Turkey as soon as I have my Bachelors degree, but still the reality is not as bright as you make it. Compare consumer electronic prices, meat prices. Now compare them to the average income.



As a matter of fact there are still people immigrating to Germany from Turkey (far less a few thousands a year) and mostly uneducated and unskilled, but there are far more moving back to Turkey and those who move back are highly skilled/educated.

bro i know so many people my far relatives from germany who are moving back , they are even saying the heart of europe germany is even dying .
 
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You're not talking the truth, Turkey had brain-drain in the past, the difference is that the majority of the skilled Turks didn't move to a single country like the Iranians with the USA, they're spread all over the world. And even in the case of Germany or Austria people had to apply so they could immigrate and a lot of skilled Turks simply decided to do blue-collar work here because you could do it without knowing German (people believed back then that they would be back in Turkey within a few years) and because it was worth it (the payment was kicking *** for Turkish standards).
So Turkey has brain drain too?Is it for now or for the past?The brain drain is one the worse things that ME countries are facing.However it's getting better and better.Don't know about Turkey,but in Iran,brain drain has decreased significantly,especially in past 6-7 years.
 
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