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Race Begins for India's Fighter Jet Jackpot Topping $10 Billion

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Fighter jet makers that lost out on the world’s biggest deal a few years ago are gearing up for another shot at hitting a jackpot that may exceed $10 billion.

Uncertainty over an agreement for 126 of Dassault Aviation SA’s Rafale warplanes means India still needs scores of fighter jets to replace its Soviet-era fleet. Sweden’s defense minister, on a visit to New Delhi this week, pitched Saab AB’s Gripen in a bid to jump ahead of its rivals.

“This is the biggest fighter jet competition out there,” said Justin Bronk, a research analyst at London’s Royal United Services Institute for Defence and Security Studies. He estimated that India could probably afford to buy another 100 warplanes at the moment.

When it comes to air power, India’s need for new jets is increasingly urgent: About a third of its 650-plane fleet is more than 40 years old and set to retire in the next decade. Prime Minister Narendra Modi is looking to modernize India’s armed forces to keep pace with neighbors China and Pakistan.

India is nearly back where it started in 2007, when it called for bids that included technology transfer to build up its local defense industry. Five years later, Dassault beat out Saab, Boeing Co., Lockheed Martin Corp. and Eurofighter for a contract worth about $11 billion to build 126 planes.

Talks Stall ::
Talks with Dassault stalled in part because India sought quality guarantees for 108 jets that would be made locally by state-run Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. On a trip to Paris in April, Modi announced he would buy 36 twin-engine Rafales directly from the French government.

“I also feel like having a BMW and Mercedes but I don’t because I can’t afford it,” Defense Minister Manohar Parrikar told Press Trust of India on May 31. “So 126 Rafales were economically unviable. It was not required.”

Modi’s administration has hinted that it’s looking elsewhere for new jets. Parrikar told local television channels in April that India wanted to buy “light-weight, single-engine” aircraft to replace MiG-21s that are slated to be phased out beginning next year.

Sitanshu Kar, a Defense Ministry spokesman, said earlier this week that he didn’t know how many planes India would look to buy in a new agreement. He didn’t answer several calls to his mobile phone on Thursday.

The value of any new deal will likely be “in the tens of billions of dollars,” according to Jon Grevatt, Asia-Pacific defense-industry analyst for IHS Jane’s. Apart from the Rafale, Eurofighter’s Typhoon and Gripen, other possibilities include Boeing’s F/A-18 Super Hornet, Lockheed Martin’s F-16 or F-35 joint strike fighter, and Russia’s MiG-35s, he said.

‘Big Boys’ ::
“These are the big boys in fighter aircraft at the moment,” Grevatt said. “They bid for all these major programs and would absolutely be interested in getting a piece of the Indian pie.”

Representatives for Dassault, Lockheed Martin and MiG Russian Aircraft Corp. didn’t return e-mails seeking comment on whether they are seeking a new fighter jet order from India. Boeing and Eurofighter -- a consortium that includes BAE Systems Plc and Airbus Group NV -- declined to comment.

Ulf Nilsson, head of the Saab Aeronautics division that makes Gripen, said earlier this week that the Swedish arms manufacturer is closely following developments in India.

High Stakes ::
“There are big needs in the country and it’s of course interesting to see what happens,” Nilsson said in an interview at Saab Aeronautics’ headquarters in Linkoeping, south of Stockholm, on June 8.

India’s air force currently has 240 MiG’s in its fleet of about 25 squadrons. It estimates that at least 45 squadrons are needed to repel a joint attack from Pakistan and China, according to a 2014 parliamentary report.
The stakes may be highest for Dassault and Eurofighter, according to Bronk.

“If a hundred Typhoons or Rafales were ordered, it would be a victory in export sales and years more for the production line,” he said, adding that production of the other jet “would be forced to close before 2020.”
 
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The Title should be....
Race Begins for India's Fighter Jet Jackpot Topping $10 Billion AGAIN :P


Anyway, will India still be going for 4th generation fighter plans in this MMRCA deal or will IAF seek some improvement in the required specs.
And
What about LCA and using the money to get LCA operational and up to the mark.
 
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The Title should be....
Race Begins for India's Fighter Jet Jackpot Topping $10 Billion AGAIN :P


Anyway, will India still be going for 4th generation fighter plans in this MMRCA deal or will IAF seek some improvement in the required specs.
And
What about LCA and using the money to get LCA operational and up to the mark.

LCA is in limited service with IAF. FOC will give Tejas caabilities better than JF 17 BLK II.

36 rafale ought off shelf. Rest maybe made by private consortium under HAL nad Rafale along with other players.
 
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LCA is in limited service with IAF. FOC will give Tejas caabilities better than JF 17 BLK II.

36 rafale ought off shelf. Rest maybe made by private consortium under HAL nad Rafale along with other players.
Well that is good for India. :)
I hope you get that FOC soon then that will give it better capabilities then JF-17. :) i am surprised to know that JF-17 today is a better plane as i was of the view a Tejas not even able to fly properly will be able to knock off JFT and may be that is why HAL with all there years of experience never bothered to make it a better plane as it was already far superior then any of PAF JF-17.

Regarding future of MMRCA, you are saying that IAF will still go for HAL manufactured planes?
 
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The Title should be....
Race Begins for India's Fighter Jet Jackpot Topping $10 Billion AGAIN :P


Anyway, will India still be going for 4th generation fighter plans in this MMRCA deal or will IAF seek some improvement in the required specs.
And
What about LCA and using the money to get LCA operational and up to the mark.

Nothing but speculation majority of the fleet will be replaced by LCA,if its not good enough then we will continue to work on it until its good
 
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Nothing but speculation majority of the fleet will be replaced by LCA,if its not good enough then we will continue to work on it until its good
Yes that makes much more sense for IAF and HAL. Restarting a project from scratch, one that took decades and still was not finalized may turn out to agonizingly slow and lengthy for IAF which is loosing its squadrons/numbers fast and need to replace them quickly.
 
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Again?

Isn't this basically the same MMRCA from 2001?

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Usual numbers of aerospace majors to compel us for an importing.
Those 25 are still way better than our adversaries ,they are most modern jets.
Except LCA and those 36 Rafale I dont see a chance for the further order of another fourth gen aircraft.
 
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Nothing but speculation majority of the fleet will be replaced by LCA,if its not good enough then we will continue to work on it until its good
it is in fact a media triad by foriegn vendors to pressurise new PM & DM and nothing else with help of there "assets" in MOD ,IAF and media

but there biggest obstakle's are both new PM & DM who have already made up there mind on LCA with a better engine and AESA radar and EW suite

maximum these foriegn vendors will get will be there latest gen AAMs , recce and LDP's pods
 
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Well that is good for India. :)
I hope you get that FOC soon then that will give it better capabilities then JF-17. :) i am surprised to know that JF-17 today is a better plane as i was of the view a Tejas not even able to fly properly will be able to knock off JFT and may be that is why HAL with all there years of experience never bothered to make it a better plane as it was already far superior then any of PAF JF-17.

Regarding future of MMRCA, you are saying that IAF will still go for HAL manufactured planes?
in case u dont know,,,,lca is our indigenous 4.5++ gen. fighter aircraft n yes mk1 is already a better plane thn jf17 blk2,,,lca mk2 will be comparable with grippen ng,,,,,,,as for FOC n othr trivial stuff,all will be achieved,,,,there is a conspiracy to undermine tejas,, our airforce/babus love foreign products for kickbacks.
 
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