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Quetta Shura is now Karachi Shura

By Ali K Chishti

In the light of recent revelations published by an American journal about Mulla Omar, who reportedly suffered a serious cardiac problem and underwent a major operation in Karachi, Daily Times would like to reminds its readers that it was Daily Times that first published a series of reports about certain Arab diplomats and the presence of the members of the Quetta Shura in Karachi.

Karachi, Pakistan’s financial hub, which has been struck by a series of ethnic, political and sectarian killings, which claimed more than 300 lives in the last two months, also happens to be the city where more than two dozens of the top al Qaeda, Taliban and TTP leaders have been caught. The list includes Quetta Shura number two Mullah Baradar, who only recently was claimed to have been let go for negotiations with other top terrorist leaders. It should also be noted that out of nine supposedly caught Quetta Shura members, five had been caught from Karachi alone.

There had been reports that most of the Afghan Taliban frontier leadership had been sheltered in Karachi under a Pakistani security establishment’s secret programme, the ‘New Karachi Project’. The whole notion that somehow most of the leadership of the Taliban was stationed in Quetta was a “proxy”, a top NATO source told Daily Times. “In reality its the Karachi Shura.”

Intense investigations reveal that the whole project that initially started as “India centric” has actually taken a global dimension. It was somewhere in 2003, under intense US pressure, that ‘Forward Section 23’ in Azad Kashmir was closed, which provided ‘cover and refugee to top militants’. It was only after the closure of Forward Section 23, the ISI section in Karachi became the hub for anti-India activities from where the Mumbai train bombing to 26/11 were orchestrated. It should be remember that the boat used to travel to Mumbai to carry out the terrorist attack was bought from Karachi as well.

The ‘Karachi Project’ was confirmed by recent revelations from a double agent, David Headley, who had been involved in carrying out the 26/11 massacre in Mumbai. He said in a recent testimony that he works under the direct supervision of Pakistan’s top intelligence agency, the ISI, which shelters infamous Mumbai mobster Daud Ibrahim to Tiger Memon, to the top tier leadership of the Taliban, which includes Mullah Omar. This explains a top Middle Eastern intelligence official’s secret visit to Karachi, who was actively facilitating the negotiation process between Karzai, the US and the Afghan Taliban. It should be remembered that Mullah Baradar was caught from a Sunni-Deobandi-run religious seminary in Karachi. The seminary, Khudamul Quran, is located 10 to 25kms from the toll plaza on the Super Highway in the jurisdiction of the Lonikot police station in Hyderabad, which is under the influence of Jamaat-e-Islami and the JUI-F, whose leaders had previously been caught sheltering high-profile al Qaeda leaders like Sheikh Khaled Muhammad – the 9/11 mastermind. It is shelters like this particular seminary, along with many other “safe houses”, that are termed as “strategic assets” by the Pakistani security establishment.

The Taliban are known to have moved elements of their command to Karachi to avoid potential US targeting in Predator airstrikes, where Mullah Omar is thought to be in a safe house in Karachi, under the protection of the ISI. Since the beginning of February, the authorities have captured seven senior members of the Taliban Shura, including Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar, the deputy of Mullah Omar, and four Taliban shadow governors of Afghan provinces, which include names such as Maulvi Abdul Kabir (shadow governor of Nangarhar province), Mullah Abdul Qayyum Zakir, who used to co-supervise the military affairs of the militia, Mullah Muhammad Hassan, a former foreign minister in the Taliban regime, Mullah Abdul Rauf, the former chief operational commander of the Taliban in northeastern Afghanistan, Mullah Ahmad Jan Akhundzada, the former governor of Zabul province and Mullah Muhammad Younis, an ex-Kabul police chief.




Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan
 
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Intense investigations reveal that the whole project that initially started as “India centric” has actually taken a global dimension. It was somewhere in 2003, under intense US pressure, that ‘Forward Section 23’ in Azad Kashmir was closed, which provided ‘cover and refugee to top militants’.
Is that A.K.chisti indirectly pointing to the collaboration between Al-Qaeda and ISI in kashmir insurgency all these years?
 
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The article offers no new details regarding what 'David Headley has confessed' - it merely regurgitates the unsubstantiated allegations made in the Indian media regarding alleged Headley 'confessions in interrogations by Indian officials'.

Following is a link to Headley's plea agreement that contains details revealed by him - where are the allegations claimed by India?

http://www.hindu.com/nic/headleyplea.pdf

Nor does Ali K Chishti substantiate his case for the existence of the 'Karachi Shura' beyond regurgitating the unsubstantiated news about Omar's cardiac arrest and treatment, and referring to prior arrests of Mullah Baradar etc.
 
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lolzzz tota meena story even dint mention the year. so i ask again was he operated in 2001 or 2011??

:) btw again i will repeat the NYT exposed yet another arm of blackwater at work in Pakistan
 
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@Jana , AM, looks like no amount of such articles will convince you until it fits your story. It is an article by a Pakistani in a Pakistani newspaper. They have said everything that the world has been accusing ISI of doing. You guys have written it off like it doesn't even deserve a second thought.
 
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Our press is free, we also have our tabloids - and gutter press, but because we believe in the freedom of press - they should be allowed to write what they want, and it's up to the people reading it, to believe it or not.

Intel often gets this awesome reputation, in country and around the world, of being some sort of super human "bad" organisation, but it can be libelled in it's own backyard, shows you the reality of Pakistan:)
 
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Turning a blind eye is akin to supporting.
 
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Is that A.K.chisti indirectly pointing to the collaboration between Al-Qaeda and ISI in kashmir insurgency all these years?

i dont think either of the 2 need to offer any input....the Kashmiri intifada is purely indigenous, receives little more than moral support from Pakistan; though i do wish we'd offer more logistical support


by the way, this article is like a lot of the others.....no new revelations, no new useful information. Just the same overused rhetoric being recycled and 'stamped' as something new for naiive readers to dwell on
 
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The article offers no new details regarding what 'David Headley has confessed' - it merely regurgitates the unsubstantiated allegations made in the Indian media regarding alleged Headley 'confessions in interrogations by Indian officials'.

Following is a link to Headley's plea agreement that contains details revealed by him - where are the allegations claimed by India?

http://www.hindu.com/nic/headleyplea.pdf

Nor does Ali K Chishti substantiate his case for the existence of the 'Karachi Shura' beyond regurgitating the unsubstantiated news about Omar's cardiac arrest and treatment, and referring to prior arrests of Mullah Baradar etc.

We have discussed this before, India's accusations are based on the interview by Indian officials that has been conducted in presence of US authorities and Headley's lawyer.
 
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@Jana , AM, looks like no amount of such articles will convince you until it fits your story. It is an article by a Pakistani in a Pakistani newspaper. They have said everything that the world has been accusing ISI of doing. You guys have written it off like it doesn't even deserve a second thought.

Turning a blind eye is akin to supporting.

In fact you guys are right we should listen to you people and listen to every piece of 3rd rates cr@p that is pointing at bs just like this article with out any substantial prove. Why ask for evidence after all it is Pakistan we are talking about, who gives a sh!t as long as it fits your aka indias bill. We will keep that in mind thanks.


And ps I know it is written by a Pakistani so what dont you guys have your share of retards?
 
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@Jana , AM, looks like no amount of such articles will convince you until it fits your story. It is an article by a Pakistani in a Pakistani newspaper. They have said everything that the world has been accusing ISI of doing. You guys have written it off like it doesn't even deserve a second thought.

Jayron:

Please understand the context of the article. It offers no independent or new research, information or sources. All it does is compile existing unsubstantiated reports in the Indian media related to the alleged 'Headley confessions', as well as the recent unsubstantiated story regarding Mullah Omar's cardiac arrest and treatment, and then offers an opinion largely based on those stories that 'the Quetta Shura is now the Karachi Shrua'.

Read the article with an open and unbiased mind and you'll see the flaws I am pointing out.
 
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Intense investigations reveal that the whole project that initially started as “India centric” has actually taken a global dimension. It was somewhere in 2003, under intense US pressure, that ‘Forward Section 23’ in Azad Kashmir was closed, which provided ‘cover and refugee to top militants’.

Is that A.K.chisti indirectly pointing to the collaboration between Al-Qaeda and ISI in kashmir insurgency all these years?

Of course Al-Qaeda and ISI have always been involved in all the Al-Qaeda Terroristic Activities.

The moment the ISI stops collaborating-supporting the Al-Qaeda the World will breathe a sigh of relief as the Al-Qaeda will "EVAPORATE".
 
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We have discussed this before, India's accusations are based on the interview by Indian officials that has been conducted in presence of US authorities and Headley's lawyer.

And again, there is no independent verification of the claims in the Indian media with regards to the content of those interviews.

There is however the text of the official Headley plea agreement made to US LEA's that is a matter of public record, that I linked to in my first post.
 
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Of course Al-Qaeda and ISI have always been involved in all the Al-Qaeda Terroristic Activities.

The moment the ISI stops collaborating-supporting the Al-Qaeda the World will breathe a sigh of relief as the Al-Qaeda will "EVAPORATE".

Please provide evidence to substantiate your claims or desist from repeating them.
 
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Of course Al-Qaeda and ISI have always been involved in all the Al-Qaeda Terroristic Activities.

The moment the ISI stops collaborating-supporting the Al-Qaeda the World will breathe a sigh of relief and the Al-Qaeda will "EVAPORATE"

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But seriously can you try harder next time.
 
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