Questions for PTI fans

[AstanoshKhan]

This thread should be binned/deleted - honestly.

 

[Areesh]

You mentioned the word "radical" first. Bad memory much?

I used radicals for those religious people who support Imran. And believe me there are many. You in the reply brought Taliban as if they are the true "radical" Muslims. For me they are just a stain on the face of Islam(particularly TTP) let alone radical or liberal muslims. Anyways your post was confusing.

So someone who couldn't save himself from himself from committing these "disgusting acts" (as they would be considered in Pakistan) will save Pakistan? God help us.

So it's time for you start praying for that ideal "saint" you are looking for. Hopefully you might get him.

I on the other hand believe that every human has weaknesses and so does Imran. And if he can overcome those weaknesses to lead Pakistan then be it.

You mentioned the word "radical" first. Bad memory much?

Those people in the jalsa overlooked the "Sita white etc etc", and this problem of Pakistanis overlooking the flaws of parties to whom they are giving their votes is the biggest problem. I mean, why the hell did PPP win last elections? Sympathy votes? Oh come on, why give votes to a dead person? All those votes were being given to Zardari, one of the biggest ****** in Pakistan and any person with half a brain was aware of it.

Those elections were massively rigged and that's why PTI didn't participate in them unlike others like PML(N). One more reason to support Imran for me I guess. Yeah they might have got some sympathy votes from Sindh but the fact is that the elections were rigged and pre-decided thanks to NRO. By the way PML(N) was an ally of both BB and Zardari at some point of times.

Anyways stop comparing apples with oranges and start searching for "saint" that you are talking about. We would accept him even if the "saint" is Ganja.

gotta sleep, bye for now.

I thought you already were. Bye Bye.

 

[Sugarcane]

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[somebozo]

I highly suspect Imran Khan to have a good amount of foreign sponsorship, some of them we dont precive very friendly such as the USA and UK. Given his popularity among the burger class which is mostly spoiled brats of corrupt army generals and kernals and are known to spend life of luxury in the west and have betrayed Pakistan one too many times.

 

[Luftwaffe]

I highly suspect Imran Khan to have a good amount of foreign sponsorship, some of them we dont precive very friendly such as the USA and UK. Given his popularity among the burger class which is mostly spoiled brats of corrupt army generals and kernals and are known to spend life of luxury in the west and have betrayed Pakistan one too many times.

O bahi why do you call all younger generation burger class if they wear jeans & t-shirt, please post in examples with detailed families and names of men women children who are from burger class, list those generals and their family names, list their luxuries and I and other would agree with you, I believe the burger class like mushy and altafia are sitting outside not to mention dengue bratheran and zaradai bilawal burgerist families. Want me to list more out of your favorite parties.
Why do you get mad yaar when you have nothing against IK to prove, don't you have a slightest Regret of all other parties in powers in all forms putting Pakistan in $60B+Debt externally and equally or more amount internally with total debt of Pakistan at $130ish Billion, kamal hai bhai you people have no sense of responsibility.

 

[Doctor09]

Okay, so before you guys go out and start bashing me, hear me out. I know there's a lot of fans here - please just take it easy. I have been seeing that lately, Imran Khan has become one of the most popular politicians of Pakistan and perhaps he may even have a good chance in the elections. Now, before I make my transition over and become a PTI fanboy myself, I would like you guys to answer some questions. In my few hours of research (yes, just a few hours), I have uncovered some issues that I did not have much knowledge or was unaware of. Now could someone explain these things to me, because I would like to support Imran Khan, but there are some things that keep pulling me away from him. Now, kindly:

1. Imran Khan did not read the constitution of his own party.
Refer to video on YouTube.

2. Imran Khan can not relate to the common Pakistani.
Refer to his life of luxury.

3. Sita White.
Refer to Los Angeles court.

4. "Imran slept with everyone."
Refer to "Oxford friend"

...

There's other issues I would like to bring up, but I do not have the time, and I have no researched enough to question them. So anyways, I'm not trying to bash him here, but you really have to explain to my why we should vote him? From the way I see it, he is of course a Pakistani - but not the common Pakistani - to whom he should be able to relate to. His party has no real direction and he is one day bashing someone and the next day creating an alliance with them. I just don't understand this man. And the issues with women, well, I know Pakistanis out here in Canada that despite the difficulty, maintain/resist and do not get involved with partying, women and drinking, all of which Imran Khan has been accused of. If they can control today, in 2011, why couldn't he in the past?

And yes, his personal life is important to us. That shows his credibility. There's huge flaws in his character - the base. If you have a (culturally and religiously) disgusting past - could you really become the "hero" of a country. This is hypocrisy at best. Sorry if anyone has been offended, but if you can refute these points and make me understand, I am willing to support IK.

i have a single and simple question for you ..... what is your choice , who will you choose in next election ?

 

[Doctor09]

Now people are afraid of his popularity and they start degrading him ....
tell me about the character of Zardari , tell me about the character of Nawaz and Shehbaz . tell me about the character of Altaf hussain , tell me about the history of ANP ......................................
If someone is donig good at least appreciate it ... criticism on someone is easy but to make something correct is lot difficult job ..... you were sitting in your home when Imran was sleeping road side during dharna in Peshawar against drone strikes

 

[StandForInsaf]

1. Imran Khan did not read the constitution of his own party.
Refer to video on YouTube.

Ans:- He knows better then dengue brothers.

2. Imran Khan can not relate to the common Pakistani.
Refer to his life of luxury.

Ans:- Bullshit , Look at senior dengue bother who offered Ms Kim to marry and who had affair with Tahira syad and now look at junior most dengue and Ayesha Ahad Malik case.

3. Sita White.
Refer to Los Angeles court.

Ans:- You must be Sita's son you must ask her.

4. "Imran slept with everyone."
Refer to "Oxford friend"

Ans:- Ahh i think ans 3 best fits you on that

 

[Crypto]

Okay, so before you guys go out and start bashing me, hear me out. I know there's a lot of fans here - please just take it easy. I have been seeing that lately, Imran Khan has become one of the most popular politicians of Pakistan and perhaps he may even have a good chance in the elections. Now, before I make my transition over and become a PTI fanboy myself, I would like you guys to answer some questions. In my few hours of research (yes, just a few hours), I have uncovered some issues that I did not have much knowledge or was unaware of. Now could someone explain these things to me, because I would like to support Imran Khan, but there are some things that keep pulling me away from him. Now, kindly:

1. Imran Khan did not read the constitution of his own party.
Refer to video on YouTube.

2. Imran Khan can not relate to the common Pakistani.
Refer to his life of luxury.

3. Sita White.
Refer to Los Angeles court.

4. "Imran slept with everyone."
Refer to "Oxford friend"

...

There's other issues I would like to bring up, but I do not have the time, and I have no researched enough to question them. So anyways, I'm not trying to bash him here, but you really have to explain to my why we should vote him? From the way I see it, he is of course a Pakistani - but not the common Pakistani - to whom he should be able to relate to. His party has no real direction and he is one day bashing someone and the next day creating an alliance with them. I just don't understand this man. And the issues with women, well, I know Pakistanis out here in Canada that despite the difficulty, maintain/resist and do not get involved with partying, women and drinking, all of which Imran Khan has been accused of. If they can control today, in 2011, why couldn't he in the past?

And yes, his personal life is important to us. That shows his credibility. There's huge flaws in his character - the base. If you have a (culturally and religiously) disgusting past - could you really become the "hero" of a country. This is hypocrisy at best. Sorry if anyone has been offended, but if you can refute these points and make me understand, I am willing to support IK.

1. Who has? He will when he needs to

2. Why not? Do you know IK was born and raised in a middle class family? Unlike others who are spoilt brats and no nothing about the issues faced by middle and lower class families.

3. Others are saint? His past is important but what you are pointing at is not worth debating.

4. Same as point 3.


Yes it is somewhat important, but other than him what do you have in mind? If you look at other contenders and parties they are black as a devil hole.
What are the flaws in his character? If you are going to just talk about his love affairs - i am sorry to say this is rubbish.

 

[outstream]

This is may perhaps be the only thread where Pakistanis (who ridicule India) will "Thank" the Indians for their liberal views. Sorry Indians, but Pakistan is a bit different with religion and culture. You can see how seriously some people take religion - take a look at the bombs, drone attacks and killings that occur within our borders everyday (these things aren't happening in India). If you were in our position, you would perhaps understand. This is not one of those threads that are relevant to you folks, unfortunately.

I dont understand whats your point in there? How do you relate bombs, drone attacks and killings with Islam? If you mean to say thats all being done because of Islam then we both, and everybody else knows thats not true. Please refrain from linking both.

And also, its not the only thread where Indians have been praised by Pakistani, please have a search around on forum.

Believe me when I say that if the Pakistani media airs non-biased historical and background information about Imran Khan around election time, his supporters will go down the big drain. He has no credibility, and btw, so far none of you have convinced me why I should overlook these huge character flaws in his personality (and how the rest of the Pakistan is supposed to do it, this includes the older generation, the uncles, the aunties, the grandpas, hey I don't even think the youth of Pakistan would be appreciative of IK and would continue looking at him as a role model, because the things he's done in the past are considered taboo within our religion and culture). I'm not saying he's a bad guy, but hey, please convince me.

And one more thing, please bring facts to the table, not just your personal philosophy.

We all, people of Paksitan, know very well and as does the rest of the world that IK is a former sportsman and a sports celebrity. When we talk about celebrities, different kinds of scandals naturally get attached to them. Some true some untrue. I as a Pakistani, dont care what my leader has done in past. What is important for me is, how is he going to manage the country and what effects/improvements my life and country will have under his government. As a voter I can assure you, I dont mind him doing whatever he wants to do in his personal life, as long as, he doesnt steals people`s money, doesnt be a source of their suffering and drives the country to progress.

But thats me. May be you are different and to you its important that your leader should have really pious character. In that case, you cannot be convinced. But then if thats your priority, then probably you are not going to vote for anyone as we all know about rest of political players. I would rather urge you not to waste your vote by not casting it.