Qatar sending Pakistani pilots for training on the French Rafale

[Ghazwa e Hind]

I can see people have more grudge against 'Ummah' slogan and the name of 'caliphate'. So called secularism cannot tolerate even the concept of Ummah. There is a fire in Israel and there are many fires in the hearts of those sicktards Islamophobes.

 

[alarabi]

Sir, I am a third party individual I guess. But even I know, the UAE/Qatari and Saudis, all have Pakistani pilots in a decent contingent where they routinely fly EFT's, Mirage 2k9, F-16 block-60 and Saudi AWACS. And the case for Rafale won't be any different as senior pilots will be upgraded from the Mirage-2k platform to Rafale.

From what the little I know, Pakistan and Israel were the only two countries who replicated the Fighter Weapon's School concept in their countries (to produce "the Top Guns"). Its a known secret that many Arab (including Qatari and Saudis) send their airmen and naval officers for training in Pakistan. Thanks

There is no Pakistani pilot flying any Saudi air jet in the current time, Saudi has its own school for training pilots and joins many training exercises with different countries on regular basis. I can ensure you that Saudi even doesn't use the Super Mushshak that bought from Pakistan, it uses SR22 for elementary level then PC21 for basic and finally it uses Hawk T-195 for advanced level to training its pilots inside the kingdom. I conclude from this that Saudi bought Super Mushshak just to support Pakistan when it barely or never uses them for training its pilots.

 

[Joe Shearer]

It means they will analyse every angle of the plane.....i can smell indians rubbing their A$$es

There is no need to use crude language.

Rubbish. Non of these GCC countries rely on Pakistan. Please stop smoking on the ummah weed. GCC contract out their defence to America. As facts and history prove. GCC purchase only from America/Europe to buy influence in those countries. Pakistani's? They are just 'miskeen' to be hired as private bodyguards or do the dirty work.

Even there the plum jobs are given to Indian's by GCC. GCC/KSA are India's biggest beneficiaries. This is fact. Just google the amount of money that is pouring into India from GCC - so much that it has lifted India which enables it to then spend more on it's military.

How does a cool $72 billion going from GCC to India sound?This is every year - Pakistan got $48 billion one off Chinese investment under CPEC and entire country is in orgy.

Link > http://www.khaleejtimes.com/business/gold-forex/remittances-from-gcc-to-india-hit-72b

That is true. The biggest single earning that we have is the labour of our poorer people in the Gulf. And yet we manage to give them short shrift, when it comes to their protection and their privileges as Indian citizens working outside the country; we manage to push around their families and dependents in India under the new regime more than ever before.

 

[The SC]

Well, Pakistan just got its 36 Rafale too.. maybe the source is not that credible but I still remember a time where KSA, which is much bigger and more populous than Qatar had other Arab nationals and some Pakistanis (All very experienced pilots) manning its F-15s for a while till Saudi nationals were trained and became efficient in handling the sophisticated platforms..

 

[DJ_Viper]

There is no Pakistani pilot flying any Saudi air jet in the current time, Saudi has it's school for training pilots and joins many training exercises with different countries on regular basis. I can ensure you that Saudi even doesn't use the Super Mushshak that bought from Pakistan, it uses SR22 for elementary level then PC21 for basic and finally it uses Hawk T-195 for advanced level to training its pilots inside the kingdom. I conclude from this that Saudi bought Super Mushshak just to support Pakistan when it barely or never uses them for training its pilots.

Please re-read my post. I never said that the Saudis have Pakistani pilots flying their jets. For Saudis, I mentioned specifically the AWACS. You do have Pakistani pilots who fly the KSA AWACS and work as Airborne controllers. This knowledge is about 8-9 years old though but its not wrong. Thanks

Well, Pakistan just got its 36 Rafale too.. maybe the source is not that credible but I still remember a time where KSA, which is much bigger and more populous than Qatar had other Arab nationals and some Pakistanis (All very experienced pilots) manning its F-15s for a while till Saudi nationals were trained and became efficient in handling the sophisticated platforms..

Pakistan got Rafales? . But I agree with the rest of your post. Thanks

 

[ziaulislam]

thread needs to be closed
i dont come to pakdef for rubbish talk, there are other sources for that

 

[MastanKhan]

Rubbish. Non of these GCC countries rely on Pakistan. Please stop smoking on the ummah weed. GCC contract out their defence to America. As facts and history prove. GCC purchase only from America/Europe to buy influence in those countries. Pakistani's? They are just 'miskeen' to be hired as private bodyguards or do the dirty work.

Even there the plum jobs are given to Indian's by GCC. GCC/KSA are India's biggest beneficiaries. This is fact. Just google the amount of money that is pouring into India from GCC - so much that it has lifted India which enables it to then spend more on it's military.

How does a cool $72 billion going from GCC to India sound?This is every year - Pakistan got $48 billion one off Chinese investment under CPEC and entire country is in orgy.

Link > http://www.khaleejtimes.com/business/gold-forex/remittances-from-gcc-to-india-hit-72b

Hi,

Should have thought about it before refusing to go to Yemen.

 

[mrrehan]

This is pretty funny if true. Qatar is apparently sending a team of Pakistani pilots to train for their first batch of Rafales!
Rough google translation below:
Revealed to media reports, the government of Qatar for sending Pakistani pilots for training on the French Rafale, had been contracted with Paris on a recent purchase.
She reports that the Qatari government had contracted with France to buy 24 Rafale fighter aircraft, worth 6.3 billion euros, last May, and then demanded the lifting of the deal to 36 aircraft, valued at 9.45 billion euros.
The reports revealed that the Qatari government did not send the Qatari pilots to train on the Rafale aircraft, but pilots Pakistanis sent to the French capital Paris.

Source in Arabic


courtesy : Usman Sabbir

... So if the news is correct then PAF will be the one who know the flight characteristics of aircraft and what is it capable of before Indians. Nice data I will be.

 

[Raider 21]

Sir, I am a third party individual I guess. But even I know, the UAE/Qatari and Saudis, all have Pakistani pilots in a decent contingent where they routinely fly EFT's, Mirage 2k9, F-16 block-60 and Saudi AWACS. And the case for Rafale won't be any different as senior pilots will be upgraded from the Mirage-2k platform to Rafale.

From what the little I know, Pakistan and Israel were the only two countries who replicated the Fighter Weapon's School concept in their countries (to produce "the Top Guns"). Its a known secret that many Arab (including Qatari and Saudis) send their airmen and naval officers for training in Pakistan. Thanks

No Pakistanis fly F-16 Block 60s, EFTs. Mirage 2k9.....not sure about Saudi AWACS. The only pilots who flew the Mirage 2000, and that too at Qatar were basically given an orientation ride while working as IPs for the Qatar AF as instructors on Alphajets.

 

[mrrehan]

BS big time. The French contract is such that only Qatar AF pilots will train and fly the Rafales. No Pakistanis are allowed to even touch their jets....

So probably we will help them afterwards

 

[Zarvan]

Rubbish. Non of these GCC countries rely on Pakistan. Please stop smoking on the ummah weed. GCC contract out their defence to America. As facts and history prove. GCC purchase only from America/Europe to buy influence in those countries. Pakistani's? They are just 'miskeen' to be hired as private bodyguards or do the dirty work.

Even there the plum jobs are given to Indian's by GCC. GCC/KSA are India's biggest beneficiaries. This is fact. Just google the amount of money that is pouring into India from GCC - so much that it has lifted India which enables it to then spend more on it's military.

How does a cool $72 billion going from GCC to India sound?This is every year - Pakistan got $48 billion one off Chinese investment under CPEC and entire country is in orgy.

Link > http://www.khaleejtimes.com/business/gold-forex/remittances-from-gcc-to-india-hit-72b

They heavily rely on us. Many soldiers in Bahrain and Qatar and UAE forces are Pakistani. Former ISI head Shuja Pasha headed UAE intelligence you need to wake up to reality. Yes Arab forces are getting better and better by every passing year. But still they heavily rely on us and and I won't be surprised as this news turns out to be true. Ummah is the concept in Quran and Sunnah part of faith of every Muslim no Tom Dick or Harry can end it.

 

[DJ_Viper]

No Pakistanis fly F-16 Block 60s, EFTs. Mirahe 2k9.....not sure about Saudi AWACS. The only pilots who flew the Mirage 2000, and that too at Qatar was basically given an orientation ride while working as an IP for the Qatar AF as an instructor on Alphajets.

 

[neem456]

Sir, I am a third party individual I guess. But even I know, the UAE/Qatari and Saudis, all have Pakistani pilots in a decent contingent where they routinely fly EFT's, Mirage 2k9, F-16 block-60 and Saudi AWACS. And the case for Rafale won't be any different as senior pilots will be upgraded from the Mirage-2k platform to Rafale.

From what the little I know, Pakistan and Israel were the only two countries who replicated the Fighter Weapon's School concept in their countries (to produce "the Top Guns"). Its a known secret that many Arab (including Qatari and Saudis) send their airmen and naval officers for training in Pakistan. Thanks

We are hoping for that here in the US also. Mr. Trump has already ensured that he will do a large investigation into H1B visa related complaints. Its time we hired Americans, our Residents here and people who are already here. Continue to keep bringing people when there is a huge talent pool here, makes no sense and at the end, American jobs are taken away. Thanks

You need to start your true original flags.
Your desi mindset and thoughts are not allowing you hide behind american flags.

 

[CriticalThought]

No matter whether Pakistani pilots get training on Rafael or not, they will hold exercises with it. They will intimately know its Radar characteristics, flight performance etc.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Should have thought about it before refusing to go to Yemen.

Ask Joe if Indian's said yes and went to Yemen?

The biggest single earning that we have is the labour of our poorer people in the Gulf.

Thanks for confirming this, Joe. India has been the preferred place for workers irrespective of Yeman or not or the religion of the workers.

They heavily rely on us.

No, they don't Zarvan. Those you refer to are the crumbs. The real lifting is contracted out to these boys below - with figures running into $100s billions. I know your a patriot and I respect you for that but you got to start looking at this without religion distorting the reality.

When the shit hit's the fan who do they call? America

Qatar? Don't worry they pay USA to have military bases in Qatar.

A US B-52 Stratofortress bomber arriving at Al Udeid Air Base, in Qatar

Qatar, where insulting its flag is a serious offence, hosts the largest American air base outside of the United States.


Al-Udeid base, home to around 10,000 military personnel, is used as a hub by the US for its air strikes against the Islamic State jihadist group in Syria and Iraq.

Link > http://www.straitstimes.com/world/middle-east/us-apologises-to-qatar-over-military-video

What did I say about Pakistan - crumbs? The real deal goes to America. That is why when Saudia Arabia came under threat America came to KSA with 500,000 soldiers. These are the facts.