Putin says Russian city Volgograd may become Stalingrad again

[Ra'ad]

Stalingrad, it should be. And if some nice museums and monuments about ww2 can be developed there, and made open to tourists, the city would attract many tourists from the world.

 

[vostok]

He was also the first Soviet leader to visit the US. You know, he reacted so vibrantly when he went to an American supermarket store and found out people don't have to wait in lines to buy food. He literally said, "so you can just buy what you want?"

Of course, the first few years after the War in the Soviet Union was the lack of food. But then things gest better. Soviet products were of the highest quality, because standards were much stricter than in the West. Problems with products in the USSR began only in the 80s.

Stalingrad, it should be. And if some nice museums and monuments about ww2 can be developed there, and made open to tourists, the city would attract many tourists from the world.

 

[Aepsilons]

Of course, the first few years after the War in the Soviet Union was the lack of food. But then things gest better. Soviet products were of the highest quality, because standards were much stricter than in the West. Problems with products in the USSR began only in the 80s.

That is not what my doctoral colleague tells me [he's Russian and is from St. Petersburg] , and like myself he grew up in the early 1980s, that there was always food rationing, and lines to wait for food. His parents, who grew up in the 60s and 70s also said the same thing. As basic as oranges, bananas, even peanut butter was hard to find.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

In Russia, many cities are named in honor of czars or communist leaders. This is normal. But Stalingrad - is more than a city. Stalingrad - it is a symbol, a sign, a covenant with our grandparents, who have defended Motherland and the whole world from fascism.

Do you agree to bring the name of Leningrad back for Saint-Petersburg?

 

[vostok]

That is not what my doctoral colleague tells me [he's Russian and is from St. Petersburg] , and like myself he grew up in the early 1980s, that there was always food rationing, and lines to wait for food. His parents, who grew up in the 60s and 70s also said the same thing. As basic as oranges, bananas, even peanut butter was hard to find.

Khrushchev made start of those problems. And in the 80s Gorbachev deliberately destroyed the economy of the USSR.
Stalin created an industry that has grown 20-30% per year. After the war, each year prices on goods reduced by 2-3% (it is true! wages were growing and prices - falling). And these goods were in abundance. Under Stalin, half of light and food industry was not in the hands of state and collective ownership - and it was very effective. A few months before the murder Stalin introduced the gold ruble and began to create a global socialist economy - Khrushchev stopped this process. Khrushchev canceled the gold ruble. They did monetary reform, after which the real welfare of the population fell by 3-4 times. Other forms of property, other than the state were prohibited. Khrushchev destroyed almost everything what such an incredible work was created in the 30-50s.
But the West liked him. Why is that?

 

[general_yermolov_stalin]

Do you agree to bring the name of Leningrad back for Saint-Petersburg?

Not me. Leningrad not.

 

[vostok]

Do you agree to bring the name of Leningrad back for Saint-Petersburg?

No. Only if USSR will be restored. Stalingrad is a different matter.

 

[Aepsilons]

Do you agree to bring the name of Leningrad back for Saint-Petersburg?

Why don't they name a city in China after Mao Zedong? or Pu Yi?

Khrushchev made start of those problems. And in the 80s Gorbachev deliberately destroyed the economy of the USSR.
Stalin created an industry that has grown 20-30% per year. After the war, each year prices on goods reduced by 2-3% (it is true! wages were growing and prices - falling). And these goods were in abundance. Under Stalin, half of light and food industry was not in the hands of state and collective ownership - and it was very effective. A few months before the murder Stalin introduced the gold ruble and began to create a global socialist economy - Khrushchev stopped this process. Khrushchev canceled the gold ruble. They did monetary reform, after which the real welfare of the population fell by 3-4 times. Other forms of property, other than the state were prohibited. Khrushchev destroyed almost everything what such an incredible work was created in the 30-50s.
But the West liked him. Why is that?

So in other words, from 60's on up, the USSR was already doomed to fall.

 

[general_yermolov_stalin]

No. Only if USSR will be restored. Stalingrad is a different matter.

not even then I agree ,vostok.They should name it zhukovgrad,gorkygrad or gazpromgrad ,anything but lenin.

 

[Aepsilons]

not even then I agree ,vostok.They should name it zhukovgrad,gorkygrad or gazpromgrad ,anything but lenin.

No, Zhukov was too much of a threat for Stalin. He openly disagreed Stalin. So, as the calculating Georgian that he was, repudiated Zhukov's standing.

 

[vostok]

So in other words, from 60's on up, the USSR was already doomed to fall.

Yes. After the murder of Stalin's Soviet Union began to lose leadership in science and industrial development. Brezhnev tryed to fix it and he had some success. But he failed to organize a change of generations of the Party. And anti-Soviet elements, like Gorbachev, got the power.
But the blame for the collapse of the Soviet Union lies on concrete criminals, rather than on the shortcomings of the socialist model.

No, Zhukov was too much of a threat for Stalin. He openly disagreed Stalin. So, as the calculating Georgian that he was, repudiated Zhukov's standing.

This is nonsense. Zhukov immensely respected Stalin, like all militaries. Stalin himself was very talented commander.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

No. Only if USSR will be restored. Stalingrad is a different matter.

But you agree the restoration of USSR, right?

 

[vostok]

But you agree the restoration of USSR, right?

Unfortunately, it's impossible. But I believe that will be created Eurasian Socialist Union, whose economic and military power will be more than the USSR ever had.

 

[Aepsilons]

This is nonsense. Zhukov immensely respected Stalin, like all militaries. Stalin himself was very talented commander.

@vostok ,

I no doubt agree that Stalin held a solid control over the entire leadership while he was in his prime. However, his one mistake was the liquidation of the military leadership prior to the war. One could argue that such action affected the readiness and cost the USSR its strategic reaction time to the Wermacht.

 

[Abii]

i honeslty don't know ,

I honestly don't know , coming from i-ran the person i am , i think stalin wanted to give respect to lenin by naming a remote , unimportant town after himself...

That was my 2 dimes in the box , like americans say

Somebody ban this false flagger