PTI is inviting trouble in Karachi !!!

[PaklovesTurkiye]

Hi.

So the thing is ...

Sindh Government - on request of Association of Builders and Developers (ABAD) Chairman, Mohsin Shaikhani, decided to bring an ordinance to regularise illegal housing units across the province.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/91...ry-abad-submits-charter-of-demand-to-sindh-cm

According to Sindh government sources, the ordinance will formulate a commission which will consider cases of illegal construction for regularisation.

The panel headed by a retired Supreme Court judge will decide on conditions and penalties to regularise unauthorized buildings where demolition is likely to cause human tragedy.

The commission will also act against officers who did not act against illegal occupation of land and unauthorized construction.

The Sindh Govt prepared the draft and sent it to PTI Governor to sign it for approval.

https://www.samaa.tv/news/2021/12/ordinance-to-regularise-illegal-buildings-in-sindh/

However the reaction of PTI is very alarming and interesting as well. PTI is opposing it and instead saying Sindh Government has ulterior motives behind it. Well, no one can deny Sindh Government is corrupt but here I can smell who is playing over smart.

Karachi citizens don't want to wake up in one morning and hear - the building is illegal, get out and demolish it. The ordinance prepared by Sindh government is backed by Karachi Business/Construction Community....Investment in Karachi is at stake here.

No one is saying to stop anti encroachment drives on nalas and rain water drains but only to regularize after putting penalty on residential plots/buildings where people/middle class are living.

Hilariously, The PTI's Punjab government has just recently appointed Justice (R) Azmat Saeed Sheikh as Chairman of Punjab Commission on Irregular Housing Societies in order to regularize more than 6,000 illegal housing societies in the entire Punjab province.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/90...ieties-justice-azmat-saeed-appointed-chairman

The bill brought forward by Sindh Government is ditto copy of PTI's Punjab bill - So What should I interpret here?

The only thing I can interpret here is that PTI is just playing politics here and deliberately causing panic among Karachi's middle class and business community while at the same time doing exactly the same thing in Punjab , which she is opposing in Sindh province.

This is just not right. PTI is not in good position in Federation as of now....In Sindh province, there are rumors of MQM's factions getting united....PTI should read writing on wall and should not do petty politics when it comes to Karachi.

Karachi business community should now start opposing PTI Government and AKD should take the lead. Protests should happen outside governor house now so that PTI can be exposed in media for this nonsense.

 

[Shabi1]

Hi.

So the thing is ...

Sindh Government - on request of Association of Builders and Developers (ABAD) Chairman, Mohsin Shaikhani, decided to bring an ordinance to regularise illegal housing units across the province.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/91...ry-abad-submits-charter-of-demand-to-sindh-cm

According to Sindh government sources, the ordinance will formulate a commission which will consider cases of illegal construction for regularisation.

The panel headed by a retired Supreme Court judge will decide on conditions and penalties to regularise unauthorized buildings where demolition is likely to cause human tragedy.

The commission will also act against officers who did not act against illegal occupation of land and unauthorized construction.

The Sindh Govt prepared the draft and sent it to PTI Governor to sign it for approval.

https://www.samaa.tv/news/2021/12/ordinance-to-regularise-illegal-buildings-in-sindh/

However the reaction of PTI is very alarming and interesting as well. PTI is opposing it and instead saying Sindh Government has ulterior motives behind it. Well, no one can deny Sindh Government is corrupt but here I can smell who is playing over smart.

Karachi citizens don't want to wake up in one morning and hear - the building is illegal, get out and demolish it. The ordinance prepared by Sindh government is backed by Karachi Business/Construction Community....Investment in Karachi is at stake here.

No one is saying to stop anti encroachment drives on nalas and rain water drains but only to regularize after putting penalty on residential plots/buildings where people/middle class are living.

Hilariously, The PTI's Punjab government has just recently appointed Justice (R) Azmat Saeed Sheikh as Chairman of Punjab Commission on Irregular Housing Societies in order to regularize more than 6,000 illegal housing societies in the entire Punjab province.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/90...ieties-justice-azmat-saeed-appointed-chairman

The bill brought forward by Sindh Government is ditto copy of PTI's Punjab bill - So What should I interpret here?

The only thing I can interpret here is that PTI is just playing politics here and deliberately causing panic among Karachi's middle class and business community while at the same time doing exactly the same thing in Punjab , which she is opposing in Sindh province.

This is just not right. PTI is not in good position in Federation as of now....In Sindh province, there are rumors of MQM's factions getting united....PTI should read writing on wall and should not do petty politics when it comes to Karachi.

Karachi business community should now start opposing PTI Government and AKD should take the lead. Protests should happen outside governor house now so that PTI can be exposed in media for this nonsense.

If there is violation/deviation of building plan it can be regularized by paying a fine and that is what this commission will address. This is not illegal it means the builder deviated from his approved plan, he can pay the penalty and get it regularized as this is allowed. Perhaps made a extra washroom, room or moved a wall but within the confines of allotted space and valid land lease.

What can't be regularized is if the construction is exceeding the allotted land or is built on land that was not intended for that use, which was case of Nasla tower the builder increase his plot size (780 sq yds original to 1121 sq yds ) and managed to bribe his way to include a 77sq/ft service lane which is why being demolished as this is in encroachment. As per Supreme court judgment the builder has to compensate/return money to the residents within 3 months but instead of returning money the builder is making people resist to save his own skin. The builder who knew it was wrong and bribed and the people who allowed the construction even though they know it was illegal are both the culprits and should be made a example of.

How Nasla Tower’s plot grew from 780 to 1,121 sq yds in six decades

Imagine buying a flat worth millions of rupees after verifying all the no-objection certificates issued by the relevant landowning agencies and various government departments. Then, a few years...

www.thenews.com.pk

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

If there is violation/deviation of building plan it can be regularized by paying a fine and that is what this commission will address. This is not illegal it means the builder deviated from his approved plan, he can pay the penalty and get it regularized as this is allowed. Perhaps made a extra washroom, room or moved a wall but within the confines of allotted space and valid land lease.

What can't be regularized is if the construction is exceeding the allotted land or is built on land that was not intended for that use, which was case of Nasla tower the builder increase his plot size (780 sq yds original to 1121 sq yds ) and managed to bribe his way to include a 77sq/ft service lane which is why being demolished as this is in encroachment. As per Supreme court judgment the builder has to compensate/return money to the residents within 3 months but instead of returning money the builder is making people resist to save his own skin. The builder who knew it was wrong and bribed and the people who allowed the construction even though they know it was illegal are both the culprits and should be made a example of.

How Nasla Tower’s plot grew from 780 to 1,121 sq yds in six decades

Imagine buying a flat worth millions of rupees after verifying all the no-objection certificates issued by the relevant landowning agencies and various government departments. Then, a few years...

www.thenews.com.pk

No one will support encroachment. No one....Not me, media, business community or any one.

I think you misunderstood me.

Lets suppose builder is wrong in Nasla Tower Case, so it is whom's responsibility to punish him and to make him pay to residents the compensation? This is where people don't have answer.

And should we punish WHOLE Construction/Builder Community just because of few bad apples?

Should we just demolish homes/buildings right and left without even putting strict mechanism of rehabilitation and compensation?

And Why regularization plan is being implemented by PTI in Punjab? Why she is opposing same bill in Sindh province? Isn't it hypocrisy? at the cost of tax paying citizens?

Core Corps Karachi or AKD should intervene here.

PTI has stirred a lot of hornet's nests at same time. She won't be able to handle it.

 

[flameboard]

No one will support encroachment. No one....Not me, media, business community or any one.

I think you misunderstood me.

Lets suppose builder is wrong in Nasla Tower Case, so it is whom's responsibility to punish him and to make him pay to residents the compensation? This is where people don't have answer.

And should we punish WHOLE Construction/Builder Community just because of few bad apples?

Should we just demolish homes/buildings right and left without even putting strict mechanism of rehabilitation and compensation?

And Why regularization plan is being implemented by PTI in Punjab? Why she is opposing same bill in Sindh province? Isn't it hypocrisy? at the cost of tax paying citizens?

Core Corps Karachi or AKD should intervene here.

PTI has stirred a lot of hornet's nests at same time. She won't be able to handle it.

If you read the comment there is a mechanism for compensation but the builder has convinced the people it is best to protest.

in the future if anyone buys a house they’ll make sure all the property documents are in order and builders will be expected to be liable

 

[Ghazwa-e-Hind]

Whoever has built illegally, or misused government land needs to be held accountable.

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Lack of footpaths, recreational parks, trees and other facilities are need of the hour.

The illegal constructions must be demolished and PEOPLE must be compensated.

Whoever took part in bribery, or facilitated construction on encroached land must be dealt with iron hand. Thumbs up to CJ Gulzar

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I am with Supreme Court and PTI on this one. This thing must be investigated and housing mafias must end.

Imran Khan is now finally playing clever moves.

Right now, to eradicate the cancer, painful chemotherapy is needed. After that it will be smooth as breeze.

 

[Thorough Pro]

this legislation is to provide cover to the illegal land grab activities of the ruling mafia after the court decision on Nasla tower. I am still waiting for the court to punish all the government agencies/officials who gave NOC for the construction. Obviously, they all got bribes and they should be brought to justice, they should be fined and that money should be used to compensate the affectees

 

[blueazure]

i have no problem with illegal building being demolished PROVIDED the residents are duly compensated




@PaklovesTurkiye have the residents of NUSLA been compensated ?

 

[Imran Khan]

Hi.

So the thing is ...

Sindh Government - on request of Association of Builders and Developers (ABAD) Chairman, Mohsin Shaikhani, decided to bring an ordinance to regularise illegal housing units across the province.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/91...ry-abad-submits-charter-of-demand-to-sindh-cm

According to Sindh government sources, the ordinance will formulate a commission which will consider cases of illegal construction for regularisation.

The panel headed by a retired Supreme Court judge will decide on conditions and penalties to regularise unauthorized buildings where demolition is likely to cause human tragedy.

The commission will also act against officers who did not act against illegal occupation of land and unauthorized construction.

The Sindh Govt prepared the draft and sent it to PTI Governor to sign it for approval.

https://www.samaa.tv/news/2021/12/ordinance-to-regularise-illegal-buildings-in-sindh/

However the reaction of PTI is very alarming and interesting as well. PTI is opposing it and instead saying Sindh Government has ulterior motives behind it. Well, no one can deny Sindh Government is corrupt but here I can smell who is playing over smart.

Karachi citizens don't want to wake up in one morning and hear - the building is illegal, get out and demolish it. The ordinance prepared by Sindh government is backed by Karachi Business/Construction Community....Investment in Karachi is at stake here.

No one is saying to stop anti encroachment drives on nalas and rain water drains but only to regularize after putting penalty on residential plots/buildings where people/middle class are living.

Hilariously, The PTI's Punjab government has just recently appointed Justice (R) Azmat Saeed Sheikh as Chairman of Punjab Commission on Irregular Housing Societies in order to regularize more than 6,000 illegal housing societies in the entire Punjab province.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/90...ieties-justice-azmat-saeed-appointed-chairman

The bill brought forward by Sindh Government is ditto copy of PTI's Punjab bill - So What should I interpret here?

The only thing I can interpret here is that PTI is just playing politics here and deliberately causing panic among Karachi's middle class and business community while at the same time doing exactly the same thing in Punjab , which she is opposing in Sindh province.

This is just not right. PTI is not in good position in Federation as of now....In Sindh province, there are rumors of MQM's factions getting united....PTI should read writing on wall and should not do petty politics when it comes to Karachi.

Karachi business community should now start opposing PTI Government and AKD should take the lead. Protests should happen outside governor house now so that PTI can be exposed in media for this nonsense.

regularize ? its not that simple yes it can be regularize if builders and developers pay every penny they earned from this mess .

i have no problem with illegal building being demolished PROVIDED the residents are duly compensated




@PaklovesTurkiye have the residents of NUSLA been compensated ?

yeah they should pay market price and demolish each single illegal building

 

[Musafir117]

regularize ? its not that simple yes it can be regularize if builders and developers pay every penny they earned from this mess .

yeah they should pay market price and demolish each single illegal building

There isn’t differences between regularizing for Punjab and Sind? ya phir depend on person lol Jab Ameer ka Ho to theek hai jub gareeb ka hou tou theek nahi Hai

 

[Imran Khan]

There isn’t differences between regularizing for Punjab and Sind? ya phir depend on person lol Jab Ameer ka Ho to theek hai jub gareeb ka hou tou theek nahi Hai

there should be no diffrence sir . anywhere inside pakistan borders law must be same

 

[Zibago]

There isn’t differences between regularizing for Punjab and Sind? ya phir depend on person lol Jab Ameer ka Ho to theek hai jub gareeb ka hou tou theek nahi Hai

My personal opinion is no regularization be it for rich or poor but meri kon sunta hy

 

[SaadH]

Judiciary is a fraud, the first ones to be answering for this debacle and should have been prosecuted were the gov't/city officials that granted the permits for the building to go up...

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

If you read the comment there is a mechanism for compensation but the builder has convinced the people it is best to protest.

in the future if anyone buys a house they’ll make sure all the property documents are in order and builders will be expected to be liable

Dear...Residents checked all docs before going into the house/nasla tower.

Whoever has built illegally, or misused government land needs to be held accountable.

-
Lack of footpaths, recreational parks, trees and other facilities are need of the hour.

The illegal constructions must be demolished and PEOPLE must be compensated.

Whoever took part in bribery, or facilitated construction on encroached land must be dealt with iron hand. Thumbs up to CJ Gulzar

-

I am with Supreme Court and PTI on this one. This thing must be investigated and housing mafias must end.

Imran Khan is now finally playing clever moves.

Right now, to eradicate the cancer, painful chemotherapy is needed. After that it will be smooth as breeze.

Here people are not getting compensated....This is the problem

this legislation is to provide cover to the illegal land grab activities of the ruling mafia after the court decision on Nasla tower. I am still waiting for the court to punish all the government agencies/officials who gave NOC for the construction. Obviously, they all got bribes and they should be brought to justice, they should be fined and that money should be used to compensate the affectees

Here people are not getting compensated....This is the problem....Neither corrupt ones are being brought to justice...Hence the problem

i have no problem with illegal building being demolished PROVIDED the residents are duly compensated

@PaklovesTurkiye have the residents of NUSLA been compensated ?

Here people are not getting compensated....This is the problem....Neither corrupt ones are being brought to justice...Hence the problem

regularize ? its not that simple yes it can be regularize if builders and developers pay every penny they earned from this mess .

yeah they should pay market price and demolish each single illegal building

Dear good sir...No one is compensating anyone as of now. So demolishing right and left will bring anarchy nothing else

 

[Imran Khan]

Dear...Residents checked all docs before going into the house/nasla tower.



Here people are not getting compensated....This is the problem



Here people are not getting compensated....This is the problem....Neither corrupt ones are being brought to justice...Hence the problem



Here people are not getting compensated....This is the problem....Neither corrupt ones are being brought to justice...Hence the problem



Dear good sir...No one is compensating anyone as of now. So demolishing right and left will bring anarchy nothing else

they have to pay or go jail and auction their property .

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

they have to pay or go jail and auction their property .

Who will do that? sir? no one....No one is interested in it