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Khar-damag Imagine if she is your sister and died this way. Nobody called ambulance, no one offered first aid.
Shame on you.
It was an accident that no one knew could predict, you dumb ****! Is per be bc ghatia N league showbaazi ker raha ho basori ka? Pechli thread per tuhja kaha tha insaan ha to bhaaagni na or baatain Imran na Kahan Fauj ko galiayan nikali hain per tu us ka jawab nahi da saka, because tu jhoota ha or abb yahan apni munafiqat dekha raha ha. Tuj jaison ko kisi ki maa bhen ki kitni parwa ha yeh hum na dekh lia tha Model town main jahan aurton or bachoon ka moo per gooliyan barsai gain thi. Shame us per nahi tujh jaisa munafiqon per ha. Lanat bashumaar.

All PDM supporters now selling the death of a poor reporter. It was a sad incident, let's cut it off and move on.
What else do you expect from Ghatia zaat ka ghulam.
 
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Why are you placing the blame on me. I'm simply explaining the way the world works.

You are complaining about ISI for political reasons. I didn't see anyone of you defending the rights of PTM, Baloch activists or the pro pmln/ppp journalists who were tortured back in the day


This happened when Imran Khan was in power. You should either put an end to torture or face it when it's your turn

It's not complaining anymore its more of a fact that ISI is more into politics of this country than national security.

That's true regarding the past of dirty games of GHQ but it confirms that ISI and GHQ is more of a mafia than an agency. It only goes after unarmed civilians otherwise they get a bullet and get a shaheed tag which then fuels the sympathy of generals just like politicians.

They themselves coming on tv is a confirmation that they have fd up beyond repair now.
 
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Bahut se chezein hain in logon ko respond karnay kay liye. Lekin hum inki tarhan beghairat nahi hain. Apni job/paisay bananay ki khatir insaniyat kho bethe hain ye log.

please dont waste energy talking logic facts with them!!

troll these tits worshippers!
 
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Kinana b. al-Rabi`, who had the custody of the treasure of B. al-Nadir, was brought to the apostle who asked him about it. He denied that he knew where it was. A Jew came (T. was brought) to the apostle and said that he had seen Kinana going round a certain ruin every morning early. When the apostle said to Kinana, "Do you know that if we find you have it I shall kill you?" he said Yes. The apostle gave orders that the ruin was to be excavated and some of the treasure was found. When he asked him about the rest he refused to produce it, so the apostle gave orders to al-Zubayr b. al-`Awwam, "Torture him until you extract what he has," so he kindled a fire with flint and steel on his chest until he was nearly dead. Then the apostle delivered him to Muhammad b. Maslama and he struck off his head, in revenge for his brother Mahmud. (Ibn Ishaq, Sirat Rasul Allah, translated as, The Life of Muhammad, (tr. A. Guillaume), Karachi: Oxford University Press, 1998, p. 515.)

What do you have to say about this ?

Sorry to interrupt. What you've posted is slander and an uneducated excerpt which is falsehood spread by Christan bastards. That story is distorted and false see link below, and hadith also, whereas Prophet PBUH said one should never punish by fire and only Allah can do it.

See the link and read the entire story about Kinana.

Story of Kinana's being subjected to exhortion and put to death for hiding some treasure, for which he had contravened his contact, is altogether a spurious one. Kinana was executed in retaliation for treacheriously killing Mahmud, the brother of Mohammad-bin-Moslama, to whom he was made over for execution. There is one tradition, without any authority, to the effect, that Zobeir was producing fire on Kinana's breast by the friction of flint and steel. This, if it be a fact, does not show that it was done by Mohammad's direction and approval. One the contrary, there are several traditions from the Prophet himself in which he has forbidden to punish any one with fire. It is related by Bokharee from Ibn Abbas, that Mohammad said, 'God only can punish with fire.' It is also related by Abu Daood from Abdullah, that the Prophet said, 'No body ought to punish any one with fire except the Lord of the fire.' [4]

Baseless Story Of Kinana Ibn Al-Rabi – Treasure? – Discover The Truth (discover-the-truth.com)

@truthseeker2010
 
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Kinana b. al-Rabi`, who had the custody of the treasure of B. al-Nadir, was brought to the apostle who asked him about it. He denied that he knew where it was. A Jew came (T. was brought) to the apostle and said that he had seen Kinana going round a certain ruin every morning early. When the apostle said to Kinana, "Do you know that if we find you have it I shall kill you?" he said Yes. The apostle gave orders that the ruin was to be excavated and some of the treasure was found. When he asked him about the rest he refused to produce it, so the apostle gave orders to al-Zubayr b. al-`Awwam, "Torture him until you extract what he has," so he kindled a fire with flint and steel on his chest until he was nearly dead. Then the apostle delivered him to Muhammad b. Maslama and he struck off his head, in revenge for his brother Mahmud. (Ibn Ishaq, Sirat Rasul Allah, translated as, The Life of Muhammad, (tr. A. Guillaume), Karachi: Oxford University Press, 1998, p. 515.)

What do you have to say about this ?

Let’s go Authentic and not fabricated please

Ibn Abbas reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Do not punish with the punishment of Allah Almighty,” meaning fire.

Source: Musnad Aḥmad 1904

Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Ahmad Shakir

عَنِ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ لَا تُعَذِّبُوا بِعَذَابِ اللَّهِ عَزَّ وَجَلَّ يَعْنِي النَّارَ

1904 مسند أحمد مسند عبد الله بن العباس​

4/190 المحدث أحمد شاكر خلاصة حكم المحدث إسناده صحيح في مسند أحمد
 
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Seerah Ishaq was compiled way before Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslims. Being closer to the period of the Prophet,Its arguably more authentic. All the early Muslims relied on the biography compiled by Ibn Ishaq to understand the life of the Prophet. The epistemology (isnad analysis) of hadith science is a deeply flawed field. You can't reject or accept a narration on the basis of isnad. For all we know, the isnad may be a later fabrication and in the best case scenario, it doesn't guarantee the people in the chain of transmission did meet each other in real life.

Let's assume it's a fabrication.

Why would Ibn Ishaq include it in his book, given its embarrassing depiction of the Prophet torturing prisoners to extract information. He ( and the countless scholars who relied on him for seerah) clearly believed it was authentic, not a mere hearsay. Using the embarrassment criterion, it's very likely a true story

Oral traditions were passed down, and he collected them. However, the important part, these weren't weeded out properly until Sahih Hadith's set the standard of what was and wasn't acceptable. So many narrations were from the Jews, and Isb Ishaq didn't have narrators for much of what he wrote down.

The Prophet said not to torture with fire; your information stated he did, so how can Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) contradict himself? He was executed due to a killing he did, and not for treasure as in the battle he was captured, the Prophet stated there would be no treasure and only slaves.
 
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This manhoos IK has proved to be a lanat for this nation. His first long march started after the saniha model town and ended when this nation went into a bloodbath at APS. In the meantime, this scumbag attacked the icons of our state's sovereignty, i.e. the PTV building and parliament building. I pray Allah SwT save our nation from another terrorist attack like that.

Now this long march has taken two lives (one a journalist lady and a police driver who died of heart attack) today. But look at this idiot IK. He cancelled the march for the day and rushed away from the scene right after that. Reason? Jadoo Toona. Yes, jadoo toona!

Due to jadoo toona reasons, this idiot doesn't go to the place where a deadbody is present. IK did not attend the funeral prayers of a PTI stalwart Naeemul Haque and his supporter media person Arshad Sharif. Now look at his nahoosat, a person today died right under the truck he was sitting in. Anyhow, this extremely selfish moron doesn't really care for any one else. He monolithically wants to become the PM at any cost.
 
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This manhoos IK has proved to be a lanat for this nation. His first long march started after the saniha model town and ended when this nation went into a bloodbath at APS. In the meantime, this scumbag attacked the icons of our state's sovereignty, i.e. the PTV building and parliament building. I pray Allah SwT save our nation from another terrorist attack like that.

Now this long march has taken two lives (one a journalist lady and a police driver who died of heart attack) today. But look at this idiot IK. He cancelled the march for the day and rushed away from the scene right after that. Reason? Jadoo Toona. Yes, jadoo toona!

Due to jadoo toona reasons, this idiot doesn't go to the place where a deadbody is present. IK did not attend the funeral prayers of a PTI stalwart Naeemul Haque and his supporter media person Arshad Sharif. Now look at his nahoosat, a person today died right under the truck he was sitting in. Anyhow, this extremely selfish moron doesn't really care for any one else. He monolithically wants to become the PM at any cost.
When the PDM brought in power with a regime change operation ... the whole country underwater .. a massive flood, and bankruptcy, dollar and trade balance out of control ...thousand died and missing in the flood, TTP raise arms against the state, and total anarchy, wheat crisis, gas crisis, electricity crisis ....... lolzzzzzz .... mulk ki ma Ch kar di
 
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"...epitomizes Battle between ordinary Pakistanis led by PM @ImranKhanPTI & elite capturing status quo Mafia lead by Gen. Bajwa"

Total BS. Five thousand people in a city of 15 million participating in this manhoos topi drama of long march of a manhoos idiot! And this is an epitomize? Total BS.

These mama-pappa productions live in their own world and then try to analyze a world that they don't really live in. I am sure this guy and those who believe him will start cursing Pakistani people in a few days.

When the PDM brought in power with a regime change operation ... the whole country underwater .. a massive flood, and bankruptcy, dollar and trade balance out of control ...thousand died and missing in the flood, TTP raise arms against the state, and total anarchy, wheat crisis, gas crisis, electricity crisis ....... lolzzzzzz .... mulk ki ma Ch kar di
"When the PDM brought in power with a regime change operation ..." BS and lies from a bloody liar.

How many times you need the government of Pakistan and official of our top agency (i.e. ISI) telling you that there is not even a shred to be found known as operation regime change. PTI junkies love to live in delusions and lies. Good for them.
 
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The only issue is when the same agencies said Rana is a drug lord, NS it's sellout and a liar.

These agencies have brought in stooges. Had they brought in competent technical team people would have been in full support but the brought in the worst of the lot and present to them as saviour that is the problem

Gross miscalculation


"...epitomizes Battle between ordinary Pakistanis led by PM @ImranKhanPTI & elite capturing status quo Mafia lead by Gen. Bajwa"

Total BS. Five thousand people in a city of 15 million participating in this manhoos topi drama of long march of a manhoos idiot! And this is an epitomize? Total BS.

These mama-pappa productions live in their own world and then try to analyze a world that they don't really live in. I am sure this guy and those who believe him will start cursing Pakistani people in a few days.


"When the PDM brought in power with a regime change operation ..." BS and lies from a bloody liar.

How many times you need the government of Pakistan and official of our top agency (i.e. ISI) telling you that there is not even a shred to be found known as operation regime change. PTI junkies love to live in delusions and lies. Good for them.
 
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The only issue is when the same agencies said Rana is a drug lord, NS it's sellout and a liar.

These agencies have brought in stooges. Had they brought in competent technical team people would have been in full support but the brought in the worst of the lot and present to them as saviour that is the problem

Gross miscalculation
I am sorry but you are talking non-sense. It's none of their business to bring this or that person to power. They were in that business before March of this year. After seeing the disastrous results of their latest experiment (to bring a loose character to power and changing his nappies on daily basis on domestic as well as diplomatic fronts), they gave up that practice.

BTW, the current government came to power through a constitutional process (of no confidence motion).

IK is insisting and trying to blackmail them to get into ultra-constitutional practice again by demanding that they should send this government packing. Under which constitutional clause they can do that?
 
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I am sorry but you are talking non-sense. It's none of their business to bring this or that person to power. They were in that business before March of this year. After seeing the disastrous results of their latest experiment (to bring a loose character to power and changing his nappies on daily basis on domestic as well as diplomatic fronts), they gave up that practice.

BTW, the current government came to power through a constitutional process (of no confidence motion).

IK is insisting and trying to blackmail them to get into ultra-constitutional practice again by demanding that they should send this government packing. Under which constitutional clause they can do that?
The same constitutional process where army once told us that Ali wazir is a traitor yet was brought in to vote?or nazim jhokio's murder was brought from Dubai overnight and sent back after the vote?
Kindly enlighten us about all the courts cases finishing in PDM favour despite having undeniable evidence?
Was that a constitutional process as well?

All well known reporters are forced to flee the country, under which constitution?
Having 16 FIR's on arshad, yet having the audacity to come on tv and ask where were the threats?
Claiming to be apolitical yet having an entire political motivated press conference.

Come up with better arguments next time before defending like a batman aka army fan boi
 
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