Prophet Muhammad Movie in Iran

[ResurgentIran]

Well based to the Muslims shea and sunni excluding the (selefiest and the wahabsts) we muslms believe that the prophet Mohammed PBUH is the lord of all the prophets let alone the angels because we believe as Muslims a good man that follow the prophet Mohammed PBUH is better than the angels.

What you said exactly what the whaabists believe of prophet as a man that did his job and gone then we should according to them we shouldn't considering him as a holy man.

But the prophet was indeed just a man, flesh and blood. He was not a Godly creature for us to consider him holy. Maybe his work was holy, but not himself. In that case thats one thing I would agree with the Salafi. lol

 

[Malik Alashter]

But the prophet was indeed just a man, flesh and blood. He was not a Godly creature for us to consider him holy. Maybe his work was holy, but not himself. In that case thats one thing I would agree with the Salafi. lol

Absolutely you're flesh and blood and Albert Einstein flesh and blood do you think you still the same no way.

 

[ResurgentIran]

Absolutely you're flesh and blood and Albert Einstein flesh and blood do you think you still the same no way.

lol
Albert Einstein was a brilliant scientist, but he wasnt holy.

 

[Malik Alashter]

lol
Albert Einstein was a brilliant scientist, but he wasnt holy.

Yes the difference is in the value of the person achievements in our case as muslims the prophet is holy because God chose him to deliver his message thats why.

if that message was that simple the God would chose you but he didn't.

 

[Mosamania]

Coming from the same guy that said "all shias should be burned." Remember that?

And yes, I hate khaleejis. Half of you know nothing but eating and watching football on TV and the other half know nothing but making suicide vests and blowing up. Now piss off to the sandy section of the forum.

I never said all shias should be burned, it is a figurative speak that they got on my nerve, and yes you can get lost in translation. And you see this is exactly what I meant by your inert racism that you spew out. You need to revise yourself. I do myself say that after spending a lot of time in this forum I found myself that I have developed a hatred towards Iranians, and that was one of the main reasons why I quit this forum for a while, so as to let this feeling die out, and I am glad to say that I have amnaged to fight my own inner demons and the bigotry that I have developed have been successfully conquered.

I suggest you do the same.

 

[Dubious]

Whats the problem in that??
Its not that no one saw him 1400 years back??

Useless argument,,,i have seen thishttp://The Message (1977) - IMDb
It shows the face clearly and director is muslim too.

I think u guys are being too stubborn here,,,its a movie people,it will be an instant flop if they don't show the face of its main character

So Ghaddafi who financed it is suddenly a hero coz he funded such things?

Lovely how double standards you people carry

As for not showing the face is to avoid dispute of how the face looked like or should look like..sure people saw him 1400 yrs ago..but not a single attempt to draw him or any drawings of his face have been retrieved till date....

Secondly it is very common esp in India where they start to pooja anyone they admire or has done great...and to avoid such things it is best not to have a face related to a great personality!

 

[Malik Alashter]

What I am most interested in is how Abu Bakr, Omar and Uthman will be portrayed. Because if they are portrayed the way I think they will be.... ISIS is going to have an extra 50K-100K recruits.

I wish they just follow what was written about abubakr, omer and uthman. just the same way they describe them in your books.

I think that is just fair when you see them in this coming movies you shouldn't blame on the shea but you should blame your mind set.

 

[Mosamania]

I wish they just follow what was written about abubakr, omer and uthman. just the same way they describe them in your books.

I think that is just fair when you see them in this coming movies you shouldn't blame on the shea but you should blame your mind set.

Again with the Generalization, (My mindset)? All I am saying is that these three saints compromise the greatest source of contention between the Sunni and Shia sect, if not by far the only one. So if their representation was deemed insulting to the Sunnis, it would further fuel the sectarian flame blowing across the Islamic world.

As far as I am concerned however, I really don't care what so ever about this movie as there is nothing about it that interests me in any way shape or form.

 

[EagleEyes]

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[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

dont cross your fvking lines idiot . i've never insulted u and i've always respected u .. but u r crossing a line which u should not .

if u r not interested in the subject , simply dont fvking post

You should be tolerant and respect me as fellow Iranian as I have always respected you because of that, even while I know you're not at the same level as me in politics or way of thinking.

I didn't insult Mohammed, this is what is written in history, hadiths etc, this was the local culture and habits in that area, so we can't blame him either. I don't know why you perceive this as a kind of attack. Insulting me will never change what happened in the past, does it?
Sometimes there is a distance between how someone imagines a person and how the real person behind that imagination is.

@WebMaster
Next time I will mention hadiths from bukhari and muslim and al-tabari. I don't know why I receive warning while I didn't insult anyone in this topic even while being insulted by others. Put aside this wahabi mentality and censorship and let people discuss in a civilized way.

Thanks.

 

[EagleEyes]

You should be tolerant and respect me as fellow Iranian as I have always respected you because of that, even while I know you're not at the same level as me in politics or way of thinking.

I didn't insult Mohammed, this is what is written in history, hadiths etc, this was the local culture and habits in that area, so we can't blame him either. I don't know why you perceive this as a kind of attack. Insulting me will never change what happened in the past, does it?
Sometimes there is a distance between how someone imagines a person and how the real person behind that imagination is.

@WebMaster
Next time I will mention hadiths from bukhari and muslim and al-tabari. I don't know why I receive warning while I didn't insult anyone in this topic even while being insulted by others. Put aside this wahabi mentality and censorship and let people discuss in a civilized way.

Thanks.

You can't post hadiths and Quran surahs for debate. Not here.

 

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

Persians:



Imam Hossain [pbuh] prefered a Persian woman to an Arab and had a Persian Muslim wife. Imams after Imam Hossain [pbuh] are half Persian and half Arab.

This is fabricated and already rejected. The only people who are related to Sassanids and Parthians are the todays paduspanids (paduspanian) and the Bagrationi nobles of Georgia, house of hasan-jalalyan of Armenia and possibly some other noble families which Soviet Union tried to wipe out/exterminate

Paduspanids - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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House of Hasan-Jalalyan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[MOHSENAM]

Persians and Prophet Muhammad [pbuh] quotes: (Salman and Iranian people)

حديث مرفوع) حَدَّثَنَا مَنْصُورُ بْنُ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ الْحَسَنِ الْحَذَّاءُ ، ثنا عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ أَبِي دَاوُدَ ، ثنا أَيُّوبُ الْوَزَّانُ ، ثنا سَعِيدُ بْنُ مَنْصُورٍ ، ثنا إِبْرَاهِيمُ بْنُ هَرَاسَةَ ، عَنْ سُفْيَانَ الثَّوْرِيِّ . ح وَحَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ الْحَسَنِ الْيَقْطِينِيُّ ، ثنا أَحْمَدُ بْنُ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ أَبِي حَمْدَانَ الأَنْطَاكِيُّ ، ثنا جَعْفَرُ بْنُ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ الْحَجَّاجِ ، ثنا سَعِيدُ بْنُ مَنْصُورِ بْنِ شُعْبَةَ الْخُرَاسَانِيُّ ، ثنا إِبْرَاهِيمُ بْنُ هَرَاسَةَ ، ثنا سُفْيَانُ الثَّوْرِيُّ ، عَنْ مُعَاوِيَةَ بْنِ قُرَّةَ ، عَنْ سَعِيدِ بْنِ جُبَيْرٍ ، عَنِ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ ، قَالَ : قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ : "" وَذُكِرَتْ عِنْدَهُ فَارِسُ ، فَقَالَ : " فَارِسُ عَصَبَتُنَا أَهْلَ الْبَيْتِ " . زَادَ جَعْفَرٌ : قِيلَ لِسَعِيدٍ : مَا يَعْنِي : عَصَبَتُنَا أَهْلَ الْبَيْتِ ؟ قَالَ : هُمْ وَلَدُ إِسْحَاقَ ، عَمُّ وَلَدِ إِسْمَاعِيلَ""" .

Kanz Ul Amal, Hadith 34138

Prophet Muhammad [pbuh]: We and Iranian are cousins(They are from my Ahlulbayt).A man ask what does it mean? Prophet answered: They are children of Ishagh [pbuh] and we Quraish are children of Ismaeil [pbuh]. (Ishagh [pbuh] and Ismaeil [pbuh] were sons of Prophet Ibrahim and Prophet Muhammad is grandson of Prophet Ibrahim and Prophet Ismaeil [pbuh] )

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While we were sitting with the Prophet Surat Al-Jumu'a was revealed to him, and when the Verse, "And He (Allah) has sent him (Muhammad) also to other (Muslims)..."(62.3) was recited by the Prophet, I said, "Who are they, O Allah's Apostle?" The Prophet did not reply till I repeated my question thrice. At that time, Salman Al-Farisi was with us. So Allah's Apostle put his hand on Salman, saying, "If Faith were at (the place of) Ath-Thuraiya (pleiades, the highest star), even then (some men or man from these people (i.e. Salman's folk) would attain it."

Bukhari, Hadith:6420
Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) recited this verse, "If you turn back He will substitute other people for you and they will not be like you. The people asked, "Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him), who are these people whom Allah has mentioned will be substituted for us if we turn back and will not be like us?" He struck Salman al-Farisi on the thigh and said, "This man and his people. If the religion were in the Pleiades men from among the Persians would attain it."
Bukhari Hadith:5283, Tirmidhi, Hadith:6244
I am from Ram-Hurmuz (i.e. a Persian town).

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Imam Hossain [pbuh] prefered a Persian woman over an Arab and had a Persian Muslim wife. Imams after Imam Hossain [pbuh] are half Persian and half Arab.

This is fabricated and already rejected. The only people who are related to Sassanids and Parthians are the todays paduspanids (paduspanian) and the Bagrationi nobles of Georgia, house of hasan-jalalyan of Armenia and possibly some other noble families which Soviet Union tried to wipe out/exterminate

Paduspanids - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Bagrationi dynasty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
House of Hasan-Jalalyan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

She was daughter of Third Yazdgird, (the last Sasanid king) and she was very religious.

 

[KingMamba]

This is fabricated and already rejected. The only people who are related to Sassanids and Parthians are the todays paduspanids (paduspanian) and the Bagrationi nobles of Georgia, house of hasan-jalalyan of Armenia and possibly some other noble families which Soviet Union tried to wipe out/exterminate

Paduspanids - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Bagrationi dynasty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
House of Hasan-Jalalyan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

He did marry a Persian lady though that is just a fact.

Shahrbanu - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia I have not come across Sunnis or Shias disputing such a thing. Whether or not she was really the Princess I guess is questionable.

 

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

She was daughter of Third Yazdgird, (the last Sasanid king) and she was very religious.

Western academic historians have cast doubt on the legend. A thorough treatment of the matter can be found in the Encyclopædia Iranica:

"Neither do any of the scholars of ancient history that have chronicled, at times with great attention to detail, the invasion of Persia by Muslim troops and the fate of the last Sasanian sovereign and her family, establish any relationship between the wife of ImamHusayn and one of the daughters of Yazdgerd III.[13]
Earlier sources such as Ibn Sad and Ebn Qotayba describe Husayn's wife as a slave, originally from Sindh, and make no reference to her being a princess.