Prime Minister Modi Fumbles on Pakistan

[Indrani]

why do you think we are giving anything away ? they will still use Indian passport, Indian army will still guard the borders
It is just that kashmiri's on both sides will be able to reunite with their family

Oh please, that is nonsensical. Even today the Kashmiris on that side have the option of taking up citizenship of India, but do they want to? Even today the families from Hyderabad to Kashmir marry across border knowing the difficulty that would put their family in. Why would they do that if they desired to have their near and dear ones near them? They do it because they are thumbing their noses at the Indian state and the international boundary. This is not at all about families. This is about Islam. If you think the stone throwers now form a faction, then wait for the time when we have joint govt and see how soon our govt becomes irrelevant. This is about beating retreat from Kashmir. This is about hoodwinking the Indian populace and ceding territory while maintaining a humanitarian cover-up.

Funny how you think India and Pakistan will jointly administer Kashmir.

 

[chhota bheem]

And people who think was not a good move to cancel the talk tell what would the NS govt talked in the present situation which he is facing Back home.
Indo Pak relation is the last thing he has in his mind.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

If anything, Modi's tough line and less than friendly overtures are strengthening Pakistan's soft image abroad, a feat that our own government has repeatedly failed at. For the first time in three decades, Pakistan is being seen as the country that wants peace and India as the instigator of regional tensions.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

you don't know about Indian jugged technology, anyway you belong to old fashioned, who didn't even dreamed about how can Indian recoil gun blown Pak 1 inch + thick Armour Patton tanks. or

Retards ones are those who said this quote" One muslim solider equal to 10 hindu solider , I am not stupid as Most of PAK men's are ?" and then lost the war. dreaming & believing without facts.

Any when you don't know about technology along with others , so don't talk .

Get educated : Ever heard of Israeli Trophy? and smoke screen for 2nd Gen. missiles , Read about IR signature suppression in tanks and missiles seeker guidance and their performance in Sub zero temperature ...... then came back.
Trophy (countermeasure) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

BTW , India might getting Trophy , what will happen to your ATGM ? ... they become useless , chill and think about it ... then came back with your ATGM talk... come with some technical data of ATGM seekers then i will reply you . ....

@Chak Bamu. @WebMaster. @Arronaut. @Jungibaaz. @Emmie. @Oscar. Please ban this low iq troll .. I've reported his idiotic banters several times .. Thank you.

He's indian so go get him .. Not our problem.. Thanks.

 

[Alfa-Fighter]

@Chak Bamu. @WebMaster. @Arronaut. @Jungibaaz. @Emmie. @Oscar. Please ban this low iq troll .. I've reported his idiotic banters several times .. Thank you.

He's indian so go get him .. Not our problem.. Thanks.

Now very one will see how things works................. Bolded you last line......

 

[Alfa-Fighter]

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He's indian so go get him .. Not our problem.. Thanks.

If is is not your problem then why are you doing this? when you can do this , you think you will tell us truth, very Indian terrorist is become PAK citizen with PAK govt Support.

[B][SIZE=3][URL='http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/pakistan-makes-deportation-of-im-financer-a-difficult-task/article1-1215487.aspx']Pakistan blocking deportation of IM financer - Hindustan Times[/URL][/SIZE][/B]

India is staring down a long and arduous legal process to extradite alleged[B] Indian Mujahideen (IM) financer Abdul Wahid Siddibappa from the United Arab Emirates (UAE) with Islamabad claiming him to be a Pakistani national, counter-terror sources told HT[/B]

Earlier also Pakistan has tried similar tactics.[B] At the time Zabiuddin Ansari alias Abu Jundal’s deportation, one of the alleged handlers of 26/11 Mumbai attackers, from Saudi Arabia, Islamabad had raised doubts about his nationality.
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But ultimately India managed to convince the Saudi authorities through a DNA match with his family members residing here that Jundal was an Indian national and he was sent to India in June, 2012

 

[Mr.S.Singh]

Oh please, that is nonsensical. Even today the Kashmiris on that side have the option of taking up citizenship of India, but do they want to?

Ahem Azad kashmiri don't have a say my dear friend, do abit of research on them

Even today the families from Hyderabad to Kashmir marry across border knowing the difficulty that would put their family in. Why would they do that if they desired to have their near and dear ones near them? They do it because they are thumbing their noses at the Indian state and the international boundary. This is not at all about families. This is about Islam.

You have a wrong perception about kashmiri's ... majority don't want to join pakistan because they know in what dire state azad kashmir is

If you think the stone throwers now form a faction, then wait for the time when we have joint govt and see how soon our govt becomes irrelevant. This is about beating retreat from Kashmir. This is about hoodwinking the Indian populace and ceding territory while maintaining a humanitarian cover-up.

Funny how you think India and Pakistan will jointly administer Kashmir.

Like i said, if you have a better idea, i am up too it

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Ahem Azad kashmiri don't have a say my dear friend, do abit of research on them

You have a wrong perception about kashmiri's ... majority don't want to join pakistan because they know in what dire state azad kashmir is

Like i said, if you have a better idea, i am up too it

Have you lived in a Muslim neighborhood in your life? By that I mean in a Muslim majority area.

 

[Mr.S.Singh]

Have you lived in a Muslim neighborhood in your life? By that I mean in a Muslim majority area.

your point being ?

 

[Indrani]

Ahem Azad kashmiri don't have a say my dear friend, do abit of research on them



You have a wrong perception about kashmiri's ... majority don't want to join pakistan because they know in what dire state azad kashmir is




Like i said, if you have a better idea, i am up too it

By constitution of India they have a right to claim citizenship of India. They can go to the courts if that right is denied them. I think it is you who have a wrong perception about Kashmiris. Except for the Shia faction (for now), rest are anti-Indian precisely because they are Muslims. They are no different than any other Muslims in the world who hate everything non-Muslim. I said we do not need to pander to Islamabad at all. At the best we should ignore them, at the worst engage them in war. There is only these two options we have.

 

[Mr.S.Singh]

By constitution of India they have a right to claim citizenship of India. They can go to the courts if that right is denied them. I think it is you who have a wrong perception about Kashmiris. Except for the Shia faction (for now), rest are anti-Indian precisely because they are Muslims..

Go to kashmir, you will shocked how small number of people are anti-India
Go to azad kashmir, ask the kashmiri's there not punjabi's not pashtoon's and they will tell you their true state !

They are no different than any other Muslims in the world who hate everything non-Muslim.

There are a small number of muslims who hate non-muslims
i have literally grown up in the streets of mohammad ali road, i go there so ofter for work and food
The protestors you see on TV are a small number to retards, are there in every religion

I said we do not need to pander to Islamabad at all. At the best we should ignore them, at the worst engage them in war. There is only these two options we have.

War isn't an option Indrani, lets keep this aside ! The number of people who will perish on both side is unimaginable

 

[Indrani]

Go to kashmir, you will shocked how small number of people are anti-India
Go to azad kashmir, ask the kashmiri's there not punjabi's not pashtoon's and they will tell you their true state

If there is a very small minority of people who are anti-India then Kashmir should not have been a problem state at all. Whether the Kashmiris in Pakistan are happy with Pakistan or not is a separate issue.

There are a small number of muslims who hate non-muslims
i have literally grown up in the streets of mohammad ali road, i go there so ofter for work and food
The protestors you see on TV are a small number to retards, are there in every religion

They may not actively hate us now, but the ingredients for hate is already present. All it needs is a few calls from the mosque they frequent. I tell you this as a person who has a good section of her family as Muslims. I have very good relations with my Muslim family but also know the contempt they have for Hinduism and Hindu gods.

War isn't an option Indrani, lets keep this aside ! The number of people who will perish on both side is unimaginable

We do not desire war, but we must prepare for one nevertheless. As I said that is the worst among the options we have. It is an option nevertheless. Plus war comes in so many varieties nowadays. So all need not be nuclear holocaust.

 

[Mr.S.Singh]

If there is a very small minority of people who are anti-India then Kashmir should not have been a problem state at all. Whether the Kashmiris in Pakistan are happy with Pakistan or not is a separate issue.

Kashmir has been a problem due to inflirtration and Kashmir Valley ... not the entire state ! Not parts of outer Kashmir

They may not actively hate us now, but the ingredients for hate is already present. All it needs is a few calls from the mosque they frequent. I tell you this as a person who has a good section of her family as Muslims. I have very good relations with my Muslim family but also know the contempt they have for Hinduism and Hindu gods.

i have a good section of friends as muslims. They come to celebrate our festivals, we go to theirs

We do not desire war, but we must prepare for one nevertheless. As I said that is the worst among the options we have. It is an option nevertheless. Plus war comes in so many varieties nowadays. So all need not be nuclear holocaust.

chances of war escalating to MAD ( Mutually assured Destruction in 70%)

 

[Indrani]

Kashmir has been a problem due to inflirtration and Kashmir Valley ... not the entire state ! Not parts of outer Kashmir

Infiltrates who were hosted by the locals. Without the local support, the infiltrates would not have created such havoc.

i have a good section of friends as muslims. They come to celebrate our festivals, we go to theirs

So do I.

chances of war escalating to MAD ( Mutually assured Destruction in 70%)

Well, we do live in an unstable world. We deal with the reality and not let anyone dictate terms to us. Or be prepared to be enslaved in the false hopes of everlasting peace.

 

[Mr.S.Singh]

Infiltrates who were hosted by the locals. Without the local support, the infiltrates would not have created such havoc..

which again are small fraction
The tippers to police or army are also kashmiri's

Well, we do live in an unstable world. We deal with the reality and not let anyone dictate terms to us. Or be prepared to be enslaved in the false hopes of everlasting peace.

who has been taken terms dictated ?
the 4 point formula was even back by BJP

The four-point formula General Musharraf prescribed is: [1] Kashmir should have the same borders but people be allowed to move freely across the region;[2] The region should have self-governance or autonomy but not independence; [3] Troops should be withdrawn from the region in a phased manner; and [4] a joint mechanism comprising representatives from India, Pakistan and Kashmir be set up to supervise the implementation of such a roadmap for Kashmir.

News behind the News

Pak trashes Musharraf's 4-point Kashmir formula

Pak trashes Musharraf's 4-point Kashmir formula - The Times of India