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Powerful General Raheel Sharif Eclipses Pakistan’s Prime Minister

It can be only done by election reforms which is impossible under the current system. No matter how IK sounds immature, but I stand by him in Dhandli Scandal. "Only mother can tell who is the real father of the child".. LOL

Electronic voting system should be introduced, but it can come under the Army.
Yes, electoral reforms are an essential component of this. Even if there was no dhandli, the other political parties have no reason at all to oppose electronic voting systems - unless, of course, they are the ones involved in dhandli. Which is pretty obvious.
 
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They just want COAS to take Haqqani network out rather than their very own TTP.

that is the catch, haqqani network is another word for "do more", and that is to keep pak army busy and stretched, where as afg and ana is unable to control their territory, and as a result US has to keep forces in afghanistan, i wonder how long US will remain in denial, i think they do know the reality but don't want to accept it, meanwhile the coas is pushing for allies and nato to do more, its like i have done my part, now its your turn fellas.
 
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that is the catch, haqqani network is another word for "do more", and that is to keep pak army busy and stretched, where as afg and ana is unable to control their territory, and as a result US has to keep forces in afghanistan, i wonder how long US will remain in denial, i think they do know the reality but don't want to accept it, meanwhile the coas is pushing for allies and nato to do more, its like i have done my part, now its your turn fellas.

Period: Pakistan's Nuclear arsenal is a pain in their a*s.
 
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NS has no respect world wide. Only people who give a damn about him are this mind slaves and the ones who get carried away by fake promises and things as little as metro etc. Raheel Sharif has gone above and beyond his duty and has emerged as a selfless leader.
 
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“The civilian entities don’t have the ability to deliver on a few things at this point,” a senior U.S. official said. As for Gen. Sharif, the official said: “He can deliver.”

This is the key quote. USA will need to work with whoever in Pakistan can be effective in delivering what is promised, whoever that might be. What happens internally within Pakistan is of secondary importance from the US point of view, and entirely the prerogative of the Pakistanis, as it should be.

Link to the source of the OP article:

Powerful General Raheel Sharif Eclipses Pakistan’s Prime Minister - WSJ
 
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‘There is God in the sky, and here on the ground there is Raheel Sharif.’

—Muhammad Atiq Mir, chairman of All Karachi Tajir Ittehad

:astagh: He needs to arrested and questioned about what he means by the abhorant statement!
 
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Civilian government failed to step up to the level to tackle these challenges, for which Raheel Sharif is credited for. He has remained well within his constitutional boundaries and delivered. It's just his attitude and willingness, leadership people like. Moving on it is incorrect to state that there is a soft coup or that the state is run by the army, army has not interfered into political matters and generally running the state. Defense and foreign policy is something both parties need to have consensus on....


This is the key quote. USA will need to work with whoever in Pakistan can be effective in delivering what is promised, whoever that might be. What happens internally within Pakistan is of secondary importance from the US point of view, and entirely the prerogative of the Pakistanis, as it should be.

Link to the source of the OP article:

Powerful General Raheel Sharif Eclipses Pakistan’s Prime Minister - WSJ
Why would they care. Let's take a look at our history: they have always supported dictatorship in Pakistan, as it serves their best interest. This statement is quite clear that even now they, the US is better off with a dictator in power.

But other than that, there's a balance.
There is a balance which is a good thing, military rule hasn't done any good to the country.
Even though Raheel Sharif is very popular and he was given multiple opportunities for a coup, the anti-Government dharna protests, the Peshawar attack, the Model Town massacre - he did not attempt to take over, because he realizes that a strong Democratic process and strong civil institutions are necessary for long-term development, no matter how incompetent the current government may be.
I think army has decided as an institution to not interfere into politics anymore. Then again i could be wrong; one hungry for power general and all the hard work gone to waste. Plus these coups as you stated:
"Yes, true. Military takeovers are never a good long-term solution, because it makes 'political martyrs'. The people need to realise for themselves who the corrupt politicians are and they need to stop letting them take power.

When the Army takes over, it is very easy for politicians to make it seem like they are the victims of the ''evil Army'' when the reality is that their corruption and incompetence forced the Army's hand."

Source: Powerful General Raheel Sharif Eclipses Pakistan’s Prime Minister
 
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Why would they care. Let's take a look at our history: they have always supported dictatorship in Pakistan, as it serves their best interest. This statement is quite clear that even now they, the US is better off with a dictator in power.

The real question is whether Pakistan is better off with a dictator in power?
 
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The real question is whether Pakistan is better off with a dictator in power?
Let's take a look at our history, regardless of the fact that some of the coups might be justified, military should have announced elections straight off, instead of running the state which is something they aren't there for. Anyway take a look at situation before and after military rule: country was much weaker after a military rule....
 
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Let's take a look at our history, regardless of the fact that some of the coups might be justified, military should have announced elections straight off, instead of running the state which is something they aren't there for. Anyway take a look at situation before and after military rule: country was much weaker after a military rule....

And yet PDF is full of threads trying to prove just how good dictators have been for Pakistan. As you said above, USA will work with anyone who can get things done, but Pakistanis should take a good hard look at their history before they idolize the good General Sharif and make the same mistakes all over again.
 
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And yet PDF is full of threads
PDF; key word: PDF*. PDF is full of fan boys who support corrupt kings. Unfortunate case of no proper knowledge about history.
As you said above, USA will work with anyone who can get things done, but Pakistanis should take a good hard look at their history before they idolize the good General Sharif and make the same mistakes all over again.
Historically it was the hungry for power generals who are to be blamed, not people. Raheel sharif will not take over, mark my words.
 
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PDF; key word: PDF*. PDF is full of fan boys who support corrupt kings. Unfortunate case of no proper knowledge about history.

Historically it was the hungry for power generals who are to be blamed, not people. Raheel sharif will not take over, mark my words.

PDF is a microcosm of the real Pakistan, and thus quite representative of the real thing. As much as the generals can be blamed, there is plenty of blame to go around for just about everybody. The end result is that people have the government they deserve.
 
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And here come the Indians who need to keep re-assuring themselves of ''institutional failures'' in Pakistan to be able to sleep at night.

It shows that the government is relatively incompetent, but it also shows that the Army has no interest in coups and is actively working to strengthen civil institutions and help the Democratic process mature.

Yes, true. Military takeovers are never a good long-term solution, because it makes 'political martyrs'. The people need to realise for themselves who the corrupt politicians are and they need to stop letting them take power.

When the Army takes over, it is very easy for politicians to make it seem like they are the victims of the ''evil Army'' when the reality is that their corruption and incompetence forced the Army's hand.

Name one problem solved by the army rule in Pakistan
 
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Bad for Pakistan...now international community does't know who to engage. It will be double hard for India to engage NS as it now knows the power center is RS and not NS
 
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