Poll: Should there be investigation on Election Rigging allegations?

[VCheng]

It can. It has violated constitution many times over when it supported the dictators in the past.

The honor belongs to the Army in arm-twisting any State organ to act as it pleases. The same can happen now, but it would all be illegal.

 

[VCheng]

We are in a bizarre and awkward situation right now. If Parliament is the ultimate law-making authority, and parliamentarians are elected through rigging, which authority is gonna investigate them? Surely, a criminal cannot prosecute himself. So who will do it? People, God, Army, USA, who?

The answer is the next election and the people of Pakistan.

 

[Leader]

Sir, the Parliament is the ultimate law-making authority. It can amend the Constitution if it so merits. Further, the SC cannot itself violate the Constitution as it stands. It can take Suo Moto notice only of violations of the law as specified by the Constitution. It cannot make any new laws itself. The SC must follow Article 225 until and unless it is amended by the Parliament.

another debate.

SC is the authority to address any question, which the current law or constitution doesnot address.

 

[Norwegian]

The answer is the next election and the people of Pakistan.

You are a fool right? How many elections Pakistan has had since 1977 where rigging didn't happen? A corrupt system won't fix itself automatically if its repeated unlimited times.

 

[Leader]

No, they were ALWAYS like this, born and raised in the nursery of army dictators and establishment. What made you think they were ever democrats?

never said they were ever democrat, but alittle human, now just devil's puppet !

 

[VCheng]

another debate.

SC is the authority to address any question, which the current law or constitution doesnot address.

Actually, Sir, NO. The SC can only interpret the laws made. It can NOT make any laws itself. Only the Parliament can amend the Constitution if there is a situation it wishes to address.

 

[Norwegian]

The honor belongs to the Army in arm-twisting any State organ to act as it pleases. The same can happen now, but it would all be illegal.

It was "unpopular" constitutional amendments by Nawaz Sharif in his second term that validated Musharraf's coup by SC in the first place:

In Pakistan, once legislators are elected to national or provincial assemblies, there is no way for the people to recall them before the end of their five-year terms. In the past, this has contributed to a sense of immunity on the part of members of the ruling party, and to rampant corruption among leading politicians. The Fourteenth Amendment increased this perception, and contributed to the overwhelming popular support for General Pervez Musharraf's coup in 1999. The Supreme Court subsequently validated the coup on the grounds that the Thirteenth and Fourteenth amendments created a situation for which there was no constitutional remedy.

Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution of Pakistan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[VCheng]

You are a fool right? How many elections Pakistan has had since 1977 where rigging didn't happen? A corrupt system won't fix itself automatically if its repeated unlimited times.

Replacing a corrupt system by illegal means does not work either. The only solution is regular elections, if the nation has the patience for it (which it probably doesn't).

 

[VCheng]

It was "unpopular" constitutional amendments by Nawaz Sharif in his second term that validated Musharraf's coup by SC in the first place:

Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution of Pakistan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And the angels sang.

 

[Norwegian]

Replacing a corrupt system by illegal means does not work either. The only solution is regular elections, if the nation has the patience for it (which it probably doesn't).

LOL. You are funny. You live in an imaginative world where a corrupt probes himself, and send himself to jail after "impartial" investigations done by SC following laws he made against himself! You sound delusional and contradictory. Why would a mandate thief who is always elected through rigging go to parliament and amend laws in favor of free and fair elections? You think we are fools like yourself?

 

[VCheng]

LOL. You are funny. You live in an imaginative world where a corrupt probes himself, and send himself to jail after "impartial" investigations done by SC following laws he made against himself! You sound delusional and contradictory. Why would a mandate thief who is always elected through rigging go to parliament and amend laws in favor of free and fair elections? You think we are fools like yourself?

Well, you just described Pakistan, so the joke is on all of us.

 

[Leader]

Actually, Sir, NO. The SC can only interpret the laws made. It can NOT make any laws itself. Only the Parliament can amend the Constitution if there is a situation it wishes to address.

It can always address issues. thats what Suo Moto is for and direct executive to do so.

 

[VCheng]

It can always address issues. thats what Suo Moto is for and direct executive to do so.

Any direction to the Executive by the SC must be in compliance with the Constitution.

 

[Leader]

Any direction to the Executive by the SC must be in compliance with the Constitution.

not necessary. law of necessity is applied several times, even for unconstitutional matters like coups. and this particular issue doesnot even conflict with the constitution's spirit.. the constitution's basic dictates that election should be free and fair, hence if Q arises on validity, the SC is entitled to probe. thats what SC and Justice department is for.

 

[VCheng]

not necessary. law of necessity is applied several times, even for unconstitutional matters like coups. and this particular issue doesnot even conflict with the constitution's spirit.. the constitution's basic dictates that election should be free and fair, hence if Q arises on validity, the SC is entitled to probe. thats what SC and Justice department is for.

All the applications of this unwritten "Doctrine of Necessity" (not a law) were illegal, and remain so. The SC cannot violate the Constitution itself, and any attempt to do so will remain illegal.