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Another one on the first page of this thread said MOST Turks hate Arabs... I am just wondering here, what made you think we care about you? This is the first time I know you hate us. And we were like fools, praising Turkey and Erdogan.:disagree:

Not all Turks hates Arabs. Read my post (#40). And Zulk was talking about Arabs in Denmark and not in the ME.

If you want my view read #40.
 
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I don't think Turkey is a superpower. They are however a regional power.

About the Arab thing: In my country (Holland) most problems are caused by Moroccans (which are actually Berbers). But also Turks have some problems to integrate in the society.

In my opinion we're not a regional power either. We have the potential and military power enough to become one. But without an influence over the countries and without a strong and stable economy, nope we aren't... Yet.
So there is no real regional power in Mideast at the moment.
 
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You live in Denmark? How do the Danish people look to Turks and Arabs as a immigrants?

I am born in Denmark and i live here. Turks generally are of greater stature than Iraqis and Palestininans, both in criminatlity and education/work. But it is in some way understandable since the living condition and society they come from were much worse than Turkey. You can clearly see the difference between people who come from democratic countries and non-democratic countries.
 
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Not all Turks hates Arabs. Read my post (#40). And Zulk was talking about Arabs in Denmark and not in the ME.

If you want my view read #40.

See, Already told this a while ago in another discussion. Some Turks, No Alot of Turks still hate Arabs very much, they never truelly forgave the arab for revolting against the ottoman empire. Its a scar in there minds thats hard to heal. Well hope they learn to forgive.

I don't know who told him Arabs bother with what they think of them. I was shocked by that guy's extreme racist comment, that was disgusting.
 
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I am born in Denmark and i live here. Turks gen erally are of greater stature than Iraqis and Palestininans, both in criminatlity and education/work. But it is in some way understandable since the living condition and society they come from were much worse than Turkey. You can clearly see the difference between people who come from democratic countries and non-democratic countries.

Yes, also here in Holland. Turks are famous entrepreneurs. Arabs don't have really a good reputation here, but the main problems are caused by Moroccans. How do the Danish feel about Iranian immigrants?
 
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I don't know who told him Arabs bother with what they think of them. I was shocked by that guy's extreme racist comment, that was disgusting.

Well I know for a fact that alot of Arabs were hating Turks until this government of Turkey appeared (AKP). Mostly Kemalists hates Arabs in Turkey today, but I belive by far most of Turks likes Arabs, that's why Turkey is one of the biggest supporter of Palestine, Egyptian revolution, Syrian opposition, Libyan revolution. Turkey wants for Arabs what their people want for their country.
 
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In my opinion we're not a regional power either. We have the potential and military power enough to become one. But without an influence over the countries and without a strong and stable economy, nope we aren't... Yet.
So there is no real regional power in Mideast at the moment.

Well, I would quallify Turkey and Iran as regional powers in the Middle-East. But there is one thing I can't place: Turkey have a stronger military than Iran, but the Iranians have more direct influence in the region. Why is that? It's changing however, if you look at Turkey supporting the FSA, etc.
 
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Yes, also here in Holland. Turks are famous entrepreneurs. Arabs don't have really a good reputation here, but the main problems are caused by Moroccans. How do the Danish feel about Iranian immigrants?

Iranians are probably the best integrated of Middle Eastern people. Probably because they came here to enjoy the freedom and they were educated from Iran as well. Again the society you come from really makes a difference. Iranians have a very high level of education as far as i remember in Denmark.
 
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Iranians are probably the best integrated of Middle Eastern people. Probably because they came here to enjoy the freedom and they were educated from Iran as well. Again the society you come from really makes a difference. Iranians have a very high level of education as far as i remember in Denmark.

Thanks for the info. Denmark looks quite like Holland when it comes on immigrant groups and their reputation, but I always thought - don't know why - that the Danish are more 'racists' than the Dutch people.
 
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Thanks for the info. Denmark looks quite like Holland when it comes on immigrant groups and their reputation, but I always thought - don't know why - that the Danish are more 'racists' than the Dutch people.

There are of course racist groups here as well, but i don't know if they are "more" racist than Dutch people. I guess the educated people are much less racist than low-educated, at least that is my observations.
 
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Well I know for a fact that alot of Arabs were hating Turks until this government of Turkey appeared (AKP). Mostly Kemalists hates Arabs in Turkey today, but I belive by far most of Turks likes Arabs, that's why Turkey is one of the biggest supporter of Palestine, Egyptian revolution, Syrian opposition, Libyan revolution. Turkey wants for Arabs what their people wants for their country.

That's why I am trying hard to avoid talking about history between 1890 to 1920. Before that, we are as proud as you of Ottoman Empire. We admire Mohammed Alfateh and other great Muslim Ottoman leaders. Anyway, I hope you guys reply to such racist posts rather than us. Honestly, the last thing I want here is to lose my Turkish friends.
 
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There are of course racist groups here as well, but i don't know if they are "more" racist than Dutch people. I guess the educated people are much less racist than low-educated, at least that is my observations.

Yeah, that's right. Turks and Iranians are quite capable of integrating into European societies. Unlike the Somali's for example.
 
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Iranians are probably the best integrated of Middle Eastern people. Probably because they came here to enjoy the freedom and they were educated from Iran as well. Again the society you come from really makes a difference. Iranians have a very high level of education as far as i remember in Denmark.

Same is the case with indians as well. I'll be honest and willing to admit the many shortcomings of my people, they seriously lag behind their indian counterparts in Britain, though i'm not implying that all Middle Easterners/ South Asians who don't do well in a certain western country are criminal or thugs.

But its almost quite the opposite here in the US, both indians and Pakistanis are doing quite well. Maybe its because American people don't take sh!t from immigrants? Unlike Europeans.

No offense to any European here (if there are any), but you guys are cowardly, you don't even stand up to the foreign thugs who come into your countries, treat your women like sex slaves, and tear things down, chant slogans like "Europe is the cancer, Shariah is the answer", like seriously, no wonder you people are getting treated like sh!t in your own countries.


Europeans have been made into sissies, afraid to even stand up to the bullies threatening to take over their countries and turn them into another third world "Islamic" state (there's nothing "Islamic" about what these people want).

Americans don't take sh!t (neither do Russians), that's one thing i love about them especially the country folks, you step on their property without their permission and that'll be the last thing you do.




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Yeah, that's right. Many Europeans lack the courage to stand up against those idiots.
 
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