Poland to provide Mig-29 to Ukraine - what should they get as replacement?

[313ghazi]

So the EU has offered to pay Bulgaria, Slovakia and Poland for their Russian fighter aircraft to arm Ukraine. They will then use EU funding to replace these aircraft.

Poland operates both F-16's and Mig-29's. Their Mig-29's are likely to be replaced by more F-16's (you'd think).

They're also scheduled to get F-35's. I wondered if Poland would be better off getting the EF2000 rather than the F-35? What do you guys think about how they compare?

 

[EAGLE777]

Ukraine will get 60 modernized aircraft 40 Mig 29 and 20 SU25's. From Poland, Romania and Bulgaria.

 

[Muhammad Ayaz Hussain]

Where will they land? Do you think any airfields left in Ukraine?

 

[dBSPL]

F-35. The deal was even made. https://www.defensenews.com/global/...ks-46-billion-contract-for-f-35-fighter-jets/

The subsidy of planes transferred from Bulgaria and Poland are probably 99% covered by the USA.

Ukraine's existing air force infrastructure and pilot training, maintenance organization are based in accordance with Soviet aircraft. Therefore, the most effective and fastest solution for Ukraine was the transfer of Russian-origin aircrafts from the some NATO air forces, which invested in the transition to western standards and continued its investments.

Where will they land? Do you think any airfields left in Ukraine?

There must still be operational airfields, because Russia still has not achieved 100% air superiority. However, according to a report yesterday, these new aircraft will be stationed in Poland. In other words, they will enter Ukraine through Polish airspace with the Ukrainian flag. Just as Russian troops entered Ukraine from Belarus for the siege of Kyiv, although Belarus did not directly enter the war.

The fact that the airbase will be in Poland may also mean that there will be hundreds of NATO personnel (and full technical support) at that airbase.

 

[Areesh]

Ukraine will get 60 modernized aircraft 40 Mig 29 and 20 SU25's. From Poland, Romania and Bulgaria.

How good are the Mig29 and Su25 that ukraine would get? Are they good at BVR combat?

 

[Muhammed45]

Where will they land? Do you think any airfields left in Ukraine?

As per reports, the fighter jets will operate from Poland and Ukrainian pilots will use Polish airbases.

Let's see how would Russia react to this. Poland is talking bigger than its mouth, it is possible that Russia hit them with precision strike cruise and ballistic missiles.

 

[EAGLE777]

How good are the Mig29 and Su25 that ukraine would get? Are they good at BVR combat?

They will be upgraded it should be pretty good.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

As per reports, the fighter jets will operate from Poland and Ukrainian pilots will use Polish airbases.

If that's the case, than those air bases will be destroyed by the Russians especially if those Mig29 proves to be dangerous. If Russia doesn't hit those bases than planes can be used to target main land Russia as well. Poland, you better watch out.

 

[EAGLE777]

If that's the case, than those air bases will be destroyed by the Russians especially if those Mig29 proves to be dangerous. If Russia doesn't hit those bases than planes can be used to target main land Russia as well. Poland, you better watch out.

And Poland is NATO member it seems great chance that shat will hit the fan

 

[Foinikas]

Mig-29s against Su-30s and Su-35s? Who will upgrade them and to what level? And when?

Bulgaria and Romania are just getting rid of Mig-29s they're not using anymore.

 

[EAGLE777]

We need a miracle that this war will be limited within Ukraine borders or end before it turns into a ww3.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1498619523045511168

 

[1ndy]

If that's the case, than those air bases will be destroyed by the Russians especially if those Mig29 proves to be dangerous. If Russia doesn't hit those bases than planes can be used to target main land Russia as well. Poland, you better watch out.

Can Russian missiles evade NATO air defense? If they are really providing this much then they have already placed defenses against any Russian attack... and I am convinced that NATO tech is fully capable of stopping any Russian missile be it cruise or ballistic.

 

[Foinikas]

We need a miracle that this war will remain in Ukraine or end before it turns into a ww3.

Ya kardes,I think the Americans and British have found a way to bleed the Russians again,by using someone else. They've tried a lot of proxies,this one is the best for them. If they keep sending AT weapons,AA weapons and other equipment they will cause a lot of destruction to the Russian army and with the sanctions they will have Russia where they want. Then they can theoretically turn to China. Of course all that if the Russians end up losing and they don't actually somehow win.

 

[EAGLE777]

Mig-29s against Su-30s and Su-35s? Who will upgrade them and to what level? And when?

Bulgaria and Romania are just getting rid of Mig-29s they're not using anymore.

Ukraine used to upgrade it but that option is out of the question.

Ya kardes,I think the Americans and British have found a way to bleed the Russians again,by using someone else. They've tried a lot of proxies,this one is the best for them. If they keep sending AT weapons,AA weapons and other equipment they will cause a lot of destruction to the Russian army and with the sanctions they will have Russia where they want. Then they can theoretically turn to China. Of course all that if the Russians end up losing and they don't actually somehow win.

It seems that Russia is holding back for now, things can turn really ugly if they turn to Idlib style war. Meaning they bombs everything that stands and moves.

 

[dBSPL]

Mig-29s against Su-30s and Su-35s? Who will upgrade them and to what level? And when?

Bulgaria and Romania are just getting rid of Mig-29s they're not using anymore.

I don't think it will be upgraded. It will only be brought into operational condition. Collect spare parts and ammunition from all over the world, change transponders, radio and add data link then roll out.

Poland probably have better soviet jet infrastructure than others. I wonder how Poland's Mig' level and has there been any modernization? I mean, if these planes, for example, could drop Mark80 series bombs, it would be an incredible advantage. In this way, the US could transfer thousands of guidance kits for Mark-81-82 to Poland. Or, does the Polish defense industry have any facility in producing ammunition for these aircrafts? I think we need to look into these issues in some detail.

Putting aside the absurdity of the situation, the black market can keep these jets operational for a long time if a strong financial source supports it.