POF signed a contract with FEDARMS USA for a Assembly line for the production of FEDARMS AR-15

[jhungary]

Even the 800$ M&P Sport AR is way better than whatever this is

Well, S&W tho shit, they still have their reputation to uphold......

 

[Metal 0-1]

Should have gone with Daniel Defense if not atleast BCM, Aero Precision or Triarc.

 

[CLUMSY]

Btw BW21 isnt the only 7.62x51 that is indigenous or in trials.

You have to understand Ar platform will not be successful in the subcontinent.

It absolutely will be. The modern day AR is excellent in pretty much every aspect. It being unreliable is an overexaggeration of the highest extreme. I see no reason why it wouldnt be.

 

[Genghis khan1]

The modern day AR is excellent in pretty much every aspect.

No it’s not. AR was designed as a competition rifle not a weapon for war. Any war veteran can tell you that. It Jams, 5.56 round is weak to bring a enemy down in a single shot. Infact Iraqis were able to take 3 and still mange to get back up. High maintenance, weak caliber rifles aren’t suitable for combat.

 

[CLUMSY]

No it’s not. AR was designed as a competition rifle not a weapon for war. Any war veteran can tell you that. It Jams, 5.56 round is weak to bring a enemy down in a single shot. Infact Iraqis were able to take 3 and still mange to get back up. High maintenance, weak caliber rifles aren’t suitable for combat.

Those are common myths. Modern day AR platforms jam no more than AKs. 5.56 vs 7.62x39 is a matter of debate, both are intermediate powered rounds at the end. Not so sure about your Iraq claim, i severely doubt you could take 3 well placed rounds of anything that isnt a .22 (even then maybe) and be able to ger back up. And no, your modern day AR does not jam very often if taken care of. Thats just sensationalist bull. Matter of fact is that the modern day AR platform is one of the most customizable and can excel at any given scenario if modified accordingly. AR platforms arent only in 5.56 btw, can be configured in 7.62x39 or 7.62x51. Have some time on the latter, not much about 500 rounds or so. They work just fine. Id also say its much easier to mount accessories on old school ARs than old school AKs. Not sure why you claim it was designed as a competition rifle, if so then why do so many militaries use it.

 

[Path-Finder]

Nothing like being in an ambush and having a gun that wouldn't fire lmao.
Establishment will get the shaheeds it wants by hook or by crook.

I hope they dont appear to be cynical in this matter. on the flip side it will be a newer system compared to G3 and AK, though not vetted as well.

Those are common myths. Modern day AR platforms jam no more than AKs. 5.56 vs 7.62x39 is a matter of debate, both are intermediate powered rounds at the end. Not so sure about your Iraq claim, i severely doubt you could take 3 well placed rounds of anything that isnt a .22 (even then maybe) and be able to ger back up. And no, your modern day AR does not jam very often if taken care of. Thats just sensationalist bull. Matter of fact is that the modern day AR platform is one of the most customizable and can excel at any given scenario if modified accordingly. AR platforms arent only in 5.56 btw, can be configured in 7.62x39 or 7.62x51. Have some time on the latter, not much about 500 rounds or so. They work just fine. Id also say its much easier to mount accessories on old school ARs than old school AKs. Not sure why you claim it was designed as a competition rifle, if so then why do so many militaries use it.

retrospectively AR is the best rifle design. because of its ability to move with the times. sadly same cannot be said for the AKM design. it had to be redesigned to keep up with modern times.

 

[Genghis khan1]

Those are common myths. Modern day AR platforms jam no more than AKs. 5.56 vs 7.62x39 is a matter of debate, both are intermediate powered rounds at the end. Not so sure about your Iraq claim, i severely doubt you could take 3 well placed rounds of anything that isnt a .22 (even then maybe) and be able to ger back up. And no, your modern day AR does not jam very often if taken care of. Thats just sensationalist bull. Matter of fact is that the modern day AR platform is one of the most customizable and can excel at any given scenario if modified accordingly. AR platforms arent only in 5.56 btw, can be configured in 7.62x39 or 7.62x51. Have some time on the latter, not much about 500 rounds or so. They work just fine. Id also say its much easier to mount accessories on old school ARs than old school AKs. Not sure why you claim it was designed as a competition rifle, if so then why do so many militaries use it.

Yes it was designed as a competition rifle. Designer wife was a competition shooter and he wanted something lightweight with less recoil (1950 era) therefore he came up with AR design. Later it evolve. US military adapter it much later during Vietnamese war.

Other than US and 3rd world countries where US donated older version of these rifles, not many professional forces use than as an infantry rifle. After lesson learn from wars, US is also replacing AR with Sig Sauer.

Yes, it’s jams and lacks stopping power. There’s no debate about it, it’s coming from the veterans that used it on battlefield.

 

[Metal 0-1]

US is also replacing AR with Sig Sauer.

Sorry to break it to you, Sig MCX is also an AR platform.

 

[Bilal.]

Sorry to break it to you, Sig MCX is also an AR platform.

Yes and no. It’s not an AR15 platform.

 

[Metal 0-1]

Yes and no. It’s not an AR15 platform.

I know genius it's bufferless AR-18

 

[Bilal.]

I know genius it's bufferless AR-18

Wow, you had to get all worked up? Relax and have a nice day.

 

[Metal 0-1]

Wow, you had to get all worked up? Relax and have a nice day.

Ackchually it's past 1am

 

[Genghis khan1]

Sorry to break it to you, Sig MCX is also an AR platform.

No, it’s a new rifle. Only reason pistol grip and Selector switch look similar because it’s was a requirement. It’s easier for soldiers who already trained on M-16s to switch and complete their new rifle qualification. Other than than it’s a totally different rifle inside.

 

[Big Tank]

I can smell corruption and waste of funds.

Let's bet! we will never see any development in this MoU but the funds will be released. Pakka ksi Gernail k bety/beti ne investment ki hogi is firm men student visa ke dauran. Ya phir shares lelye honge in chutiyon ke. Imagine a state owned premier firearm factory signs MoU with a nobody who makes shitty guns that even dope filled rednecks won't buy.

 

[Zulfiqar]

Can someone please do a image search and try to identify the nice people in the picture please ?

Lets see which family is this.

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I have dealt with the person signing on behalf of POF/WIL.

Although a nooni (at least till 15/16) in personal life but he was a financially shrewd person who had the best for WIL in his mind back then while dealing with us and gave no quarters in negotiations ( we had to revise our pricing several times because he put us in competitive bid with others). We had a decent arms length working relationship.

There was a relative of a General Dar in procurement/marketing who got caught in some brass casing/metal corruption (but still was employed even after that) who hated this guy's guts because he won't bend to their will.

Even though I don't like his nooni alignment but he probably isn't the guy you are looking for.

If somebody's palms are being greased then either those are in uniform or some other senior civilian officers.