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PM’s visit to Saudi Arabia aims to assuage Riyadh’s reservations

Unfortunately, Pakistan has to maintain a very delicate balance in its relationships with different important Muslim countries, who are at loggerheads with each other.
 
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@StormBreaker Brother mine,

Thoughts?

Mangus
There are somethings, that are really hard to figure out, KSA/Iran situation is one of them and the Spinelessness of OIC is another.

One can deduce that both situations have been infiltrated by the gamers on west bank. Whenever articles of “Mediate between Iran and KSA” shows up and Pakistan plays a role, i just ignore and swipe up. PMIK if really believes that he can play a role, is either a revolutionary man or simply plain stupid. KSA iran are playing drama games, either one knows that unless God makes them ally, no power on earth can unite them. They both are like-minded people with same aims, “Not to ever promote peace”, playing devils game as a team in the region, or sometimes i kind off believe as “PAWNS” of someone even worse.

Pak-India having relations far worse manage to stay back but these GF/BF are really confusing.

What did iran do to KSA that they are on extreme ends of pole or what did KSA do to Iran ? Nothing...
And that oil facility drama, not iran.

Either Iran is the worst scum or the house of salman. Sometimes i really miss Late Sheikh Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz, that morning i woke up to the first news of the day of him passing away, even as a kid, really felt for that. And then sun started to go down since on KSA...

@MastanKhan What say you Mr.Legend ?

If Really Turkey, Pakistan and Malaysia, take a REAL stand for developing a highly functional and influential alliance, then it would mean the end of OIC and the fall of crown from KSA.

Times are demanding such alliance now. World is really heading way faster towards the FINAL CONFLICT than we can comprehend. Every day i see the new generation, i myself being one of them but different than all, observe them too innocent to dig the reality of the Now and future. And it’s not that i am controlled by my perspective, NO, it is quite clear, how world has major powers, becoming more & more aggressive thanks to Fascist/Unofficially Fascist rulers.
And here we have the dear Netflix, trying to play all innocent, milking people of what dajjal is, slowly persuading their mind, preparing them to eventually BOW.
First time i saw the trailer, I really got too attached to it, it was so catchy. What a trailer it was really !!! Will definitely come to charts on IMDB. But slow poison is what all these things do eventually, don’t they ?

@Mangus Ortus Novem
 
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Brother mine,

We all are stuck... daldal... sinking, sinking...

Pakistan is under the Momentum of History to lead... and unite.

As I have said many a times.. We don't have OurWorld, we live in someone else's World... hence we are headless chicken... and this is NOT going to change anytime soon.

War that started in 1857 has not stopped...and we have been loosing. The Ugly Truth!!!

I wish Khafee was here... to provide his insights and guidance....

KSA is of High Strategic Importance for Pakistan... any alliance/block that Pak forms without KSA will fail.

And any block that KSA tries without Pakistan shall not benefit KSA.

Both States needs a deep rethink and come out of their comaz.

M5 is coming ... it is not a choice but a compulsion for survival.

Mangus

@Dubious @Signalian @PakSword @Reddington @RIWWIR @HRK
M5 ?
 
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Brother mine,

We all are stuck... daldal... sinking, sinking...

Pakistan is under the Momentum of History to lead... and unite.

As I have said many a times.. We don't have OurWorld, we live in someone else's World... hence we are headless chicken... and this is NOT going to change anytime soon.

War that started in 1857 has not stopped...and we have been loosing. The Ugly Truth!!!

I wish Khafee was here... to provide his insights and guidance....

KSA is of High Strategic Importance for Pakistan... any alliance/block that Pak forms without KSA will fail.

And any block that KSA tries without Pakistan shall not benefit KSA.

Both States needs a deep rethink and come out of their comaz.

M5 is coming ... it is not a choice but a compulsion for survival.

Mangus

@Dubious @Signalian @PakSword @Reddington @RIWWIR @HRK
NO Muslim country be it KSA itself can face the current situation alone ....

Yes I agree KSA is an Strategic Alley of Pakistan .... and it is a basic principle that every Strategic asset have its own level of Strategic Burden ....

But the fact of the matter is for Pakistani Nation The Most Strategic Asset is Pakistan itself .... and we know that KSA and Iran are on the collision course and collision may occur anytime without any notice and in that case besides KSA and Iran we would be the most affected Nation of this region due to the war of Iran and KSA ....
 
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This summit is the first step in the right direction. Their economies should be integrated like European union . I hope they make some kind of economic alliance before making a military partnership. How about a united bank and a single currency?
 
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This summit is the first step in the right direction. Their economies should be integrated like European union . I hope they make some kind of economic alliance before making a military partnership. How about a united bank and a single currency?
Let's first see if they can tolerate each other in a room.
 
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no military alliance is under consideration .....

It's a dream of Mahathir Bin Mohamad to establish an Islamic bloc/alliance of like-minded Islamic countries to pursue joint development projects, defense industries and common currency.

Malaysia, Pakistan and Turkey agrees that Islamic countries need to work together to resolve the crisis in Muslim world. Indonesia and Qatar are invited to attend and share their thoughts and ideas. I hope in the future Kuwait, Oman, Iran, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Kirghizia, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, and Uzbekistan are also invited.
 
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It's a dream of Mahathir Bin Mohamad to establish an Islamic bloc/alliance of like-minded Islamic countries to pursue joint development projects, defense industries and common currency.

Malaysia, Pakistan and Turkey agrees that Islamic countries need to work together to resolve the crisis in Muslim world. Indonesia and Qatar are invited to attend and share their thoughts and ideas. I hope in the future Kuwait, Oman, Iran, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Kirghizia, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, and Uzbekistan are also invited.
I know but 'military alliance' like joint defence pact is not on agenda ....
 
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ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Imran Khan will visit Saudi Arabia on Saturday to reassure the kingdom’s leadership that ties between Pakistan and Saudi Arabia remain firm despite Islamabad’s engagement with other Muslim countries.

The visit, an Arab source disclosed, has been recently planned after signals from Riyadh that it was not happy with Prime Minister Imran Khan’s decision to attend Kuala Lumpur summit being held in Malaysia from Dec 18-20.

The Kuala Lumpur summit is the brainchild of Malaysian Prime Minister Dr Tun Mahathir Mohamad. Other leaders participating in the summit are Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Qatari Emir Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad al-Thani and Iranian President Hasan Rouhani. Indonesian President Joko Widodo too was expected to attend the summit, but he has reportedly succumbed to pressure and one of his representatives would now attend the meeting.

Although it is too early to say how this initiative fares, the Saudis are already seeing the summit as an attempt to present an alternative to the Jeddah-based Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC).

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Visit planned after signals kingdom is not happy with Imran’s decision to attend Kuala Lumpur summit

The increasingly dysfunctional OIC works under the de-facto leadership of the Saudis.

Pakistan, meanwhile, is very keen about the summit. The Foreign Office, in one of the statements, said: “The KL summit would provide Pakistan with an opportunity to exchange views and find solutions to challenges facing the Muslim world, particularly the governance, development, terrorism and Islamophobia. The summit will also provide us an opportunity to foster cooperation in diverse areas with the participating countries.”

The plan for the summit was finalised during a trilateral meeting involving Turkey, Pakistan and Malaysia in September in New York on the sidelines of the UNGA session.

PM Khan earlier dispatched Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi to mollify Riyadh, where he met his counterpart Prince Faisal bin Farhan bin Abdullah. According to the Saudi Press Agency (SPA), the two foreign ministers besides talking on the bilateral agenda also “discussed the latest developments at regional and international arenas”.

FO spokesman Dr Mohammad Faisal, at his weekly briefing on Thursday, while responding to questions about PM Khan’s expected visit to Saudi Arabia, said: “High-level political exchanges between the two countries are the hallmark of this brotherly bilateral relationship. You have witnessed the high frequency of leadership level exchanges, especially since last August. The prime minister has undertaken at least three visits to KSA since May this year. Any further information about any future visit will be shared accordingly.”

The prime minister had over the past few months attempted to mediate between Saudi Arabia and Iran. However, much like past efforts in this regard, the latest initiative too did not get much success. Dr Faisal, responding to a question on the mediation project, said: “We continue to make sincere efforts.”

Doha talks

Spokesman Dr Faisal said Pakistan was hoping that the ongoing talks between the US and Taliban would conclude successfully and that would lead to an intra-Afghan dialogue and reduction of violence.

The resurrected US-Taliban dialogue started last Saturday. The discussions have so far been on reduction in violence and the intra-Afghan dialogue that would follow an agreement between the two sides.

Spokesman for Taliban’s Political Office Suhail Shaheen said that the two sides have had talks in “good and positive” atmosphere and were now breaking for consultations. He said their negotiations would resume after a few days.

Dr Faisal, meanwhile at the weekly media briefing, urged all parties to the conflict to be “watchful of the role of spoilers who do not wish to see an end to the Afghan conflict”.

“Our policy regarding Afghanistan is clear and the prime minister has reiterated it several times that there can only be a political solution to the Afghan conflict. It is heartening to note that all the global powers are now coming to this conclusion as well,” he added.

Published in Dawn, December 13th, 2019

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@StormBreaker @PakSword @RIWWIR @MastanKhan @Signalian @The Eagle @HRK


COAS in UAE talking to the CrownPrince about joint defence production...

PMIK in KSA...

Tag team action... this close cooperation is the biggest threat to enemies...

The internal unrest needs to be understood through broader agenda. Hybridwar continues....

Only few will understand the need of relations as such playing duo at once in view of geo politics & diplomacy on international stage. Unfortunately, we are bit unable to differentiate petty issues of internal politics from Pakistan Interest. Someone will have to throw some garbage over such visits just because IK is not his/her favourite and same goes to any leadership. However, Pakistan's business shall continue.

Regards,
 
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@StormBreaker @PakSword @RIWWIR @MastanKhan @Signalian @The Eagle @HRK


COAS in UAE talking to the CrownPrince about joint defence production...

PMIK in KSA...

Tag team action... this close cooperation is the biggest threat to enemies...

The internal unrest needs to be understood through broader agenda. Hybridwar continues....
COAS in UAE ? Seriously?
Now i can think of A BEST case and A WORST case.

All the hints, these visits.

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Only few will understand the need of relations as such playing duo at once in view of geo politics & diplomacy on international stage. Unfortunately, we are bit unable to differentiate petty issues of internal politics from Pakistan Interest. Someone will have to throw some garbage over such visits just because IK is not his/her favourite and same goes to any leadership. However, Pakistan's business shall continue.

Regards,
Exactly...
I second that.
Playing duo is the game of all Big/influencing countries. Be it France, USA, Russia, EVEN recent visit of Investment in india by Xi, all these are prime examples of Dual approach, keeping all in check.
World is not just persian and roman empire anymore. Multiple empires, all with multiple interests and differences, have to play fair with all. Be it Iran or KSA or Turkey, Russia, China AS WELL AS most importantly USA.

During a wartime, on tables, USA will prove more than a help for Pakistan, even more than China. China might be a good supplier, but USA is a better negotiator.

@StormBreaker @PakSword @RIWWIR @MastanKhan @Signalian @The Eagle @HRK


COAS in UAE talking to the CrownPrince about joint defence production...

PMIK in KSA...

Tag team action... this close cooperation is the biggest threat to enemies...

The internal unrest needs to be understood through broader agenda. Hybridwar continues....

Not to forget, Sheikh Muhammad Bin Zayed, is a stiff, staunch man, and the Deputy Command of UAE Armed Forces.

He as per my belief, is quite innovation-seeking man, wants people to advance in this field of Defence Production.

The recent opening of a Major firm ‘EDGE’ in UAE is also his work.

If we work closely with these guys, they will happily invest expecting our expertise to deliver them good weapons as well as giving their locals hands on experience in science & technology.

Furthermore, he is the Crown Prince of UAE, the next Supposed President of UAE.

Better Military ties with him means better overall ties with UAE.
 
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You just read the name of the author and you already know what he will write about Saudi Arabia.

Off course he'll not write about the sole investment coming from Saudi Arabia or OIC being the only platform where Pakistan's core issue Kashmir has been given the most importance unlike ther est oif the wrold including Iran.

Iran's Supreme leader only gave a mere mention even though Kargil people and shia kashmiris are also suffering from this. No bloody condemnation by Iran on how Indian occupation forces treated shia Kashmiri leader
Allama Imran Reza Ansari nor mentioned in this foreign funded Dawn as India gets better treatment in this agent newspaper than Saudi or other GCC countries.

Pakistani shia community should not be stupid to derail Pakistan's relationship with other countries fro their darling Iran.
Any one who needs bloody mediation its Pakistan itself. Our economy and government is the worst why can't all our communities living here think about Pakistan first?

Kuala Lumpur Summit is just an informal summit with nothing concrete. It does not have a charter or any clear pathway how it'll address issues esp. Islamophobia. How can it compete with organization like OIC rofl.

Dawn is employing idiots who think we are idiots.
 
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