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PM's Monumental Incompetence on the Pakistan Issue

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(Mani Shankar Aiyar is a Congress MP in the Rajya Sabha)

When Narendra Modi so peevishly cancelled the Indo-Pak Foreign Secretary-level talks that were scheduled to commence 25 August, did he take into account the fall-out in the Valley of Kashmir of the consequences of proffering the excuse of Pakistani contacts with the Hurriyat as the proximate cause of the breakdown? If he did not, that was irresponsible. And if he did, then it was even more irresponsible. (India Calls Off Talks With Pakistan Over Its Envoy Meeting Kashmiri Separatists)

For, as a long-time non-Kashmiri resident of Srinagar texted me, "So unfortunate. Now the Hurriyat are heroes in the Valley. Inept beyond belief!" I have just spent half a day in Srinagar. I was amazed at the way in which a cross-section of academics at Kashmir University, students, ordinary policemen and drivers greeted me and hugged me as if I were a long-lost friend - in fact, I was seeing most of them for the first time. The warmth of their welcome was entirely owing to my having aggressively opposed on the media - particularly on television - the whimsical, childish decision of the government to cancel the talks merely because the Hurriyat was talking, as it has done for at least 19 years past, to Pakistan.

After front-paging rival statements by the Pak High Commissioner and the Indian spokesman, Greater Kashmir also front-paged Hurriyat chairman Geelani's demand to Pakistan that they "give preference to the resolution of the Kashmir dispute than trade ties and other issues with India." We have long settled with Pakistan that our dialogue will be comprehensive and composite - that any issue of interest to either side may be raised and discussed. Why give the Kashmir separatists an opportunity to highlight their alternative Kashmir-centric view of how the dialogue might be structured? Their view had few Kashmiri takers over the years. Now, Modi has made Geelani sound reasonable to many Kashmiri ears. What monumental incompetence!

Geelani's spokesman added that, "Geelani sahib conveyed his gratitude to Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif for taking a stand on meeting with separatists." Had the Hurriyat been allowed to meet the Pakistan High Commissioner, those thanks would have been directed to our government.

Instead, Nawaz Sharif scores brownie points while our guy is portrayed as a petulant, truculent obstructionist. Again, monumental incompetence! (Also Read: 'Not Subservient' to India, Says Pakistan on Talks Being Cancelled)

Yasin Malik argues that, "Due to unresolved dispute, over 80 per cent Kashmiris are suffering with depression. Trade and other issues can wait but there is an urgent need to resolve the Kashmir dispute as it is taking a heavy toll on Kashmiris." Where Hurriyat is a grouping of factions locked in internecine conflict, Modi has brought them together, sinking their differences. Is this what he intended to do? If not, does he realize that this is what he has in fact done?

And Shabir Shah has seized the opportunity to "pitch for unity among like-minded separatists" - a goal far distant thus far, and entirely to India's advantage. Meanwhile, Mirwaiz Umar Farooq has twisted the dagger further into the Indian side, arguing that, "Terming Kashmir a bilateral issue won't change its dispute nature!"

Such voices are by no means confined to the separatist Hurriyat. The J&K Bar Association have expressed their "dismay" over the cancellation of the talks and denounced India for having "never been sincere in holding talks with Pakistan or Kashmiri pro-freedom leadership... it is only to hoodwink the world community that it occasionally agrees to hold talks with Pakistan, but thereafter back-tracks." The local state Aam Aadmi Party leader, Dr. Raja Muzaffar Bhat goes further, "When a senior Indian journalist, Dr. Ved Prakash Vaidik, can meet Hafeez Saeed in Pakistan, why cannot Kashmiri leaders meet Pakistani officials, as Kashmiris are the major stake-holders in Kashmir?" The Jammu Kashmir Salvation Movement chairman, Zaffar Akbar Bhat says, "If Kashmiris aren't stakeholders of Kashmir dispute, then why BJP government in 2000 held talks with Hizb-ul-Mujahideen leaders and commanders?" And, to top it all, the Hindu leader in the valley, Pandit Bhushan Bazaz "calls upon the Government of India to take serious and effective steps for resolution of Kashmir issue in accordance with the wishes and aspirations of Kashmiri people."

Even mainline Kashmiri politicians like the National Conference MP, Mohd Shafi are saying, "Dialogue is the only way out to address the issues. Any break-off in the dialogue process has a direct bearing on the people of Kashmir besides the two countries. There is need for holding talks so that the Kashmir issue is resolved amicably."

Whew! It takes some doing to unite disparate, quarreling Kashmiri groups across the spectrum to articulate their positions in a more or less unanimous voice. Modi's done it! Why?

The widespread belief is that the imbroglio over the Hurriyat encounter with the Pakistan High Commissioner was a "ploy" to call off the India-Pak talks. Naeem Akhtar of the PDP has said, "If New Delhi wanted to have talks with Pakistan, they could have stopped the separatists in Srinagar itself. But it allowed them to go to Delhi and then used it as an alibi for cancelling the talks." Shabir Shah adds that "our presence in Delhi was used to flare up nationalist passions through news channels and then they called off the talks."

He asks why they were not imprisoned in their houses in Kashmir except to trot out an excuse to cancel talks the government did not want. And why did they not want talks with Pakistan at this stage? Because, argues Shabir Shah, "The BJP again is appealing to the Hindu vote bank for upcoming Assembly elections by first allowing us to reach Delhi and then calling off the talks." He recalled that there were several instances in the past when Hurriyat leaders were detained in Srinagar rather than be allowed to visit Delhi for interaction with Pakistani leaders: in 2011, when Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani was in Delhi and again in 2013, when National Security Adviser, Sartaj Aziz came visiting. On both occasions, Shabir Shah was held in house arrest.

Moreover, why did the government, which knew of the High Commissioner's invitation to the Hurriyat on 10 August, wait for eight full days till the separatists were in Delhi to meretriciously state its objection to the consultation knowing full well that Pakistan would severely lose face if they meekly fell in with this new conditionality? I spy the nefarious hand of Amit Shah. He is in charge of the forthcoming J&K elections. With Kashmiri Pandits being mobilized to send in postal votes, Amit Shah clearly guesses that Modi being shown as a dragon with teeth by bullying the Pakis is an excellent tactic for drumming up saffron Pandit support. (Also Read: Calling Off Talks a Message to Pakistan, Says BJP President Amit Shah)

Fair enough. But if external relations with a key neighbour are going to be made a cat's paw in domestic electoral politics, it revels even more nakedly the naivete and irresponsibility that characterizes Modi's foreign policy.

The consequences of such irresponsibility are summed up tellingly by the Srinagar daily, Greater Kashmir: "There is surprise and disbelief over New Delhi's dramatic cancellation of Foreign Secretary level talks over Pakistan envoy's invite to separatists... The NDA government has run itself out of options as far as the dialogue with Pakistan is concerned. There is now no immediate possibility that an engagement could be resurrected in the near future. And this is a tragedy. In the absence of any contact, the regional atmosphere will grow more tense with an attendant possibility of an escalation of the conflict." Is this what Modi wants?

PMs Monumental Incompetence on the Pakistan Issue - NDTV
 
Also his Rajya Sabha tenure ended on 21st March 2014.

He recently fought Lok Sabha elections here is the result-



Position Candidate Name Votes Votes % Party
1 Bharathi Mohan R.K 513729 50.10% All India Anna Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam
2 Hyder Ali.S 236679 23.10% Manithaneya Makkal Katchi
3 Agoram. K 144085 14.00% Pattali Makkal Katchi
4 Mani Shankar Aiyar 58465 5.70% Indian National Congress
5 Pandiyan .R 11613 1.10% Independent
6 Fathima Alias Bharathi. R 7582 0.70% Independent
7 Raguraman. A 7214 0.70% Independent
8 Revathi.A 6286 0.60% Independent
9 Thirunavukkarasu. R 4714 0.50% Independent
10 Gunasekaran.N 4149 0.40% Independent
11 Rasavelu.K 3654 0.40% Bahujan Samaj Party
12 Irulappan.V 2643 0.30% Samajwadi Party
13 Timothy.T 2327 0.20% Independent
14 Shamsudeen. M 2303 0.20% Independent
15 Arumugam. C 2028 0.20% Independent
16 Munusamy.V 1994 0.20% Independent
17 Nagarajan. M 1066 0.10% Independent
18 Jarina Begam. N 1056 0.10% Independent
19 Jeyaprakash. B 770 0.10% Independent
 
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Shooting the messenger otherwise, what do the non-hindutva non-trolls have to say on the matter?
The rest be prepared to take a smack if anything flaming is posted.

The assertion Mr Ayar makes is based on one false presumption that the PM Modi is on a very strong mandate. From my point of view he is very wary of losing the extremist( and perhaps even Genocidal if many PDF Indians are to be seen) Hindu vote that has essentially driven the core of his political machinations and campaign.

So while in my own guts I sense Mr Modi to be a very pragmatic(and rather misunderstood by Pakistanis) businessman who wants to take the whole subcontinent forward; there are elements within his political support that would hang him for making even the slightest dove like move.
 
Shooting the messenger otherwise, what do the non-hindutva non-trolls have to say on the matter?
The rest be prepared to take a smack if anything flaming is posted.

The assertion Mr Ayar makes is based on one false presumption that the PM Modi is on a very strong mandate. From my point of view he is very wary of losing the extremist( and perhaps even Genocidal if many PDF Indians are to be seen) Hindu vote that has essentially driven the core of his political machinations and campaign.

So while in my own guts I sense Mr Modi to be a very pragmatic(and rather misunderstood by Pakistanis) businessman who wants to take the whole subcontinent forward; there are elements within his political support that would hang him for making even the slightest dove like move.

On your last point "there are elements within his political support that would hang him for making even the slightest dove like move" nobody in the govt. itself will ever act against Modi. His political base knows its him or the italian mafia.

The election had little to do with hindutva it was because of the economy and lack of functional govt.
 
Actually this is a brilliant political move by the BJP and just aimed at the assembly elections in J&K and it had nothing to do with talks with Pakistan. This move will strengthen Hurriyat in the valley, which is also the major support base for main stream political parties like Cong, NC and PDP. Now the next move by Hurriyat will be either to participate in this election or boycott it. A boycott will be a more obvious option for Hurriyat, it means a lesser vote to parties of the valley. And going by the strong performance of BJP in J&K, lesser votes to NC/PDP will surely benefit the BJP. And if the Hurriyat goes out to contest polls then its even better. Firstly, they will have to accept Indian Democracy, which will dilute its position and certainly will not liked by their masters in Pakistan and Secondly, it will be cross voting the majority valley votes. This is what parties like Cong/NC/PDP wouldn't want. Kudos to Amit Shah and Narendra Modi for that. And if there is BJP Govt in J&K, it will be completely new ball game in Indo-Pak dynamics.

And about talk with Pakistan, Modi is just following the policy of the previous government i.e. to make Pakistan own up the for the situation in the valley. So far India wants Pakistan to give to up its policy on Kashmir, and GoI has been acting accordingly since a very long time. India wants Pakistan to act by itself and abandon anti India activities. Similarly, when GoP sent out invites to Hurriyat for talks, India warned Pakistan of the repercussions of such an act as talking with Hurriyat before bilateral talks. But Pakistan chose not to pay heed to India's concern with this regard and went ahead with talks. Meaning that Pakistan was not serious in talking to India when they were already aware how would India react to it.
 
On your last point "there are elements within his political support that would hang him for making even the slightest dove like move" nobody in the govt. itself will ever act against Modi. His political base knows its him or the italian mafia.

The election had little to do with hindutva it was because of the economy and lack of functional govt.

What are you talking about.. This ENTIRE election was based on this element within the Indian population
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And about talk with Pakistan, Modi is just following the policy of the previous government i.e. to make Pakistan own up the for the situation in the valley. So far India wants Pakistan to give to up its policy on Kashmir, and GoI has been acting accordingly since a very long time. India wants Pakistan to act by itself and abandon anti India activities. Similarly, when GoP sent out invites to Hurriyat for talks, India warned Pakistan of the repercussions of such an act as talking with Hurriyat before bilateral talks. But Pakistan chose not to pay heed to India's concern with this regard and went ahead with talks. Meaning that Pakistan was not serious in talking to India when they were already aware how would India react to it.

After a long time, Ive seen a post that makes a lot of sense from a new Indian member.
 
Mani Shankar Aiyar was very helpful in our huge margin victory.

The Chai-wallah comment catapulted Modi into the simple majority benchmark.

Mani Shankar Aiyar should now go and sell tea on the LoC :)
This Congress boot-licker is already doing it as he's out of a job now.

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What goes around comes around!


 
What are you talking about.. This ENTIRE election was based on this element within the Indian population
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After a long time, Ive seen a post that makes a lot of sense from a new Indian member.

My my...

Nice images I'm gonna download them. Thanks.

Still does not cover 100% of his supporters. Less than than 10% of his supporters will have anti-muslim feelings. More than 90% will be patriotic. Those 2 do not mean the same thing.

Also you are vastly over-estimating hindutva in India.
Modi should have rebuilt Ram Mandir by now but issue is secondary when faced with economy and military acquisition delays.
 
My my...

Nice images I'm gonna download them. Thanks.

Still does not cover 100% of his supporters. Less than than 10% of his supporters will have anti-muslim feelings. More than 90% will be patriotic. Those 2 do not mean the same thing.

Also you are vastly over-estimating hindutva in India.
Modi should have rebuilt Ram Mandir by now but issue is secondary when faced with economy and military acquisition delays.

That is what I am saying. Modi is NOT what these 10% assume him to be. The anti-Muslim feelings that power his core mouthpieces in the BJP are not essentially what power his focus.
 
That is what I am saying. Modi is NOT what these 10% assume him to be. The anti-Muslim feelings that power his core mouthpieces in the BJP are not essentially what power his focus.

But how does it matter? There is no alternative to Modi in the Indian right.
The pro-hindutva segment will cast their votes in every election and Modi will be the direct beneficiary from them.

Whether Modi invites Nawaz Sharif again for a summit talks will not affect his electoral prospects.
 
LOL..........the gist of the article is the separatists element is angry that Modi has dumped them and is following a strict line on kashmir. Its the rage of the impotent :lol:

If you read between the lines you realize that Modi has done the right thing. More power to him.
 
But how does it matter? There is no alternative to Modi in the Indian right.
The pro-hindutva segment will cast their votes in every election and Modi will be the direct beneficiary from them.

Whether Modi invites Nawaz Sharif again for a summit talks will not affect his electoral prospects.

That is a given in this scenario , but perhaps it does matter at an electoral level. Certain votebanks will feel betrayed if Modi takes anything other than a hardline against Pakistan and as an additional consequence- Muslims in India.

this comes from a pakistani!!!!! Dude there were lots of Pakistani official and reporters writing about how pakistan is screwing itself... even about Chinese relation but all you did was shooting the messenger..

Considering you joined yesterday? How do you know I shot the messenger? Shooting the messenger is a common thing with desis.. get off your high horse.
 
Dude..this BJP follower graphic image is awesome...thanks for putting it up here...
 
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