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PM invites Prachanda to India

I'm amazed! India is being blamed for Maoism, Islamic Extremism and Hindu Extremism all at the same time!

Is there anything left which is not apparently a creation of India?
 
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Denial is not an answer

Indian Intelligence Network in Nepal.



TelegraphNepal.com

With the growing political uncertainty, when a Nation-State struggles to guard its precious territorial integrity and sovereignty, the foreign interference naturally grows exponentially. Interference is mainly sought for that there would be no spill over effect in the neighborhood or that the neighbors try to get as much benefit as possible form a faltering nation in the neighborhood.

When India is next door, one doesn’t need an enemy, a saying goes thus in Nepal.

Nepal is undergoing through such a trauma and thus the extraneous pressure is at an all time high.

The India sponsored LOKTANTRA has offered so many gifts to Nepal. The final gift in the pipeline is Sikkimisation. Just wait for it to happen.

Now coming to the point of discussion, we here would like to repeat a story penned by the Dristi Vernacular Weekly, dated July 8, 2008 as it’s main news.

The Dristi writes that the Indian Intelligence Network is already spread well over in some 25 districts nation wide. However, more disgusting is the fact that the present day Pahade ruling elites who do not hesitate in blaming the Madhesi leaders for being anti-nationals for that they demand their inherent rights, are instead at the front stage to allow the Indian authorities to spread their tentacles in 3 more districts plus of this Himalayan nation.

With the government of Nepal accepting the presence of Indian intelligence network in 25 districts already and the needed three more nodes is sure to be added up in the network soon, thus the question is, are we still the citizen of a sovereign nation that we are so proud of? Certainly not!

With borders open, how can we claim that Nepal is a sovereign nation?

“The government of Nepal is allowing the India Intelligence agency to open new outlets in the name of “District Soldiers Board” in some key points inside Nepal ,for example, Mahendranagar, Kanchanpur District; Chaturvedi, Argakhachi District; and Beni, Myagdi District”, reveals Dristi further.

“After a long and difficult procedure, we convinced the Home, Defense and Foreign Secretaries…now the file is in the table of the Chief Secretary of the Government of Nepal”, writes Dristi quoting Narayan Prasad Koirala who is the general secretary of the Nepal Ex-Army Association. Mr. Koirala- a Nepali national himself is involved in the process of opening three more outlets for District Soldiers Board- whose job would be to keep an eye to the Nepalese citizens of the areas mentioned.

However, Mr. Koirala said talking to Dristi that, we have heard that there are concerns that if the Soldiers Board is allowed to open its offices in all 75 districts of Nepal, there will be a big threat to Nepali Nationality…thus we are now concentrating to add only three districts for the time being.

Inviting the devil? Only three more districts? When the devil is in, one district will be more than sufficient.

“Even if there is threat to Nepali nationally, it is necessary to open the offices looking into the benefits of the Indian Army ex-Gorkha soldiers”, Koirala adds strength to his contention.

“A Nepal Government decision made some eight years back had stopped the process-though extremely pressurized by the Indian embassy in Kathmandu, calling it as a biggest threat to Nepali Nationally, yet the present day revolutionary government is allowing the Indian Intelligence Network to spread its tentacles in Nepal and that too willingly”. A Himalayan surprise indeed! The Revolutionary trend stands thus exposed. What say you of this?

“The Indian embassy in Kathmandu had pressurized the Nepal government not to stop the pension distribution and welfare activities for the Gorkha Soldiers in Nepal”.

Such centers that are established to distribute pensions and hold welfare activities for ex-Gorkha Soldiers in Nepal are mainly involved in spying and activities aimed at disintegrating the country.

The government formed under the premiership of Girija Prasad Koirala after the Janaandolan-II revoking the decision made by the previous Nepal government allowed the District Soldiers Board to open its offices in Besisahar, Lamgunj District; Waling, Syangja District; Gorkha, Gorkha District; Kohalpur, Banke District; Tikapur, Kailali District; and Diktel, Khotang District.

Similarly, the government of Nepal during ex-King Gyanendra’s regime under the premiership of Surya Bahadur Thapa had gleefully allowed the Indian embassy in Nepal to establish a Consulate Office in Birgunj. Thapa is a close chum of the Indian establishment. Got the point?

To add, in Nepal’s major cities such as Dharan, Pokhara and Butwal, India has established Army camps under the command of a colonel of the Indian army.

In the districts of Waling, Gulmi, Tanahau, Dang, Surkhet, Baitadi, Chitwan, Palpa, Okhaldhunga, Bhojpur, Terahthum, Taplejung, Ilam, Chainpur, the District Soldiers Board have already been established.

Recently, under the supervision of a Nepal government minister, Mr. Ramesh Lekhak an application for establishing a branch of the soldier board have been already submitted for Dailekh District.

Mr. Lekhak, a NC leader is presumed to be a yes man of Mr. Sher Bahadur Deuba of the Mahakali fame.

Look the network wherein our own august leaders are involved! What a sorry tale!

India has a long term security interest to establish such intelligence nodes in Nepal, writes Dristi quoting a security analyst.

A jumbo Indian army delegation visits all the districts of Nepal now and then where they have such boards to distribute pensions and run welfare activates. However, say analysts such activities of the Indians army are unlawful and threatening the Nepali nationality.

To boot, such visits of the Indian army personnel go unnoticed. Hmmm….

The Indian government in its own territory distributes pension to the ex-army men through bank transfers, yet in Nepal they have been running such camps...thus the Indian ill motive is abundantly clear.

The British Government too runs such camps in Nepal though the head of the British mission is the Secretary of Defense of Nepal yet the head of the Indian District Solder board is the Ambassador of India to Nepal.

No wonder! India is Nepal’s “big brother” and thus such a “special treatment” extended to them by our Jaya Chands and Mirjaffors! For more details log on to the Tuesday issue of the Dristi weekly.
 
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So this means Indian army should leave it's soldiers after service? Should not help them in letting live good life?
 
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Nepal PM Prachanda choses China over India

The Times of India - August 24, 2008

NEW DELHI: Nepal's new Maoist PM, Prachanda, has made his choice clear. Within a week of taking office, he is breaking bread with the Chinese leadership at the closing ceremony of the Olympics in Beijing, preferring it over meeting the Indian leadership in New Delhi.

The political overflight of New Delhi has not gone unnoticed here — Prachanda would be the first Nepalese leader to make Beijing his first stop and not New Delhi.

However you look at it, it's a snub, particularly since New Delhi had invited him to visit much earlier. It doesn't begin the new government's ties with India on a promising note. Prachanda even chose to ignore signals from India that it would not be "helpful" in relations with New Delhi.

There will be little comment from South Block, but it might be a while before Prachanda visits New Delhi. It's more likely that the new Nepal president, Ram Baran Yadav, whose invitation to India is already in process, may make it here first.

Prachanda swore in his new government on Friday, and was off to Beijing on Saturday with an 11-member delegation. However, the Maoist minister for law and justice, Dev Gurung, said Prachanda's visit to China cannot be regarded as directed against India. He said the Maoist-led government has vowed to follow the policy of "equidistance" from India and China.

Prachanda's actions, said sources, follows his earlier statements where he wanted to review the India-Nepal friendship treaty, because it was "unequal". This has been his way of showing that it would no longer be business as usual between India and Nepal, and henceforth, Nepal will be overtly open to Chinese overtures.

And there was no dearth of that in Beijing. According to reports, Prachanda met both Hu Jintao and Wen Jiabao. Hu was reported as saying that China and Nepal were "good neighbours, good friends and good partners". Hu noted that "the two countries have established a good neighbourly partnership and enjoyed friendship generation upon generation".

Hu added, "This fully demonstrates the great attention Nepal attaches to relations with China and its profound friendship with the Chinese people. We highly appreciate that."

Clearly, Prachanda is building up China as a hedge against India, much in the manner of all of India's other neighbours. Which, in its own way, is not cause for alarm in New Delhi, except for what it might bring in its wake, in terms of greater Chinese access into Nepal. China has also promised a lot of assistance to Nepal, which widens its choices, from being dependent on India, a dependence that has ramifications in its domestic politics.

On the other hand, Beijing was never a supporter of the Maoists, and in fact, during the jan andolan, it had taken the side of the now deposed monarchy. Even now, China remains worried about Tibetan protesters continuing their protests in Nepal. The effects of a Chinese hug will soon be felt in Nepal, because China can be quite single-minded in advancing its interests rapidly. New Delhi has floundered with the Maoist victory and is yet to strike the right notes with the new formation there.

Despite the popular linkages between India and Nepal, more hard-nosed approaches may now become the norm between India and Nepal, said sources.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...oses_China_over_India/articleshow/3400524.cms
 
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^As expected... the Maoists have shown where their allegience is.

My question is... how will the mighty CCP overcome geography (which favors Indo-Nepal relations more than the Sino-Nepal ones) and the high level of people-to-people contacts (the maximum number of tourists in Nepal are Indians) between India and Nepal?

Prachanda's snub: all talk and no go if you ask me.
 
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The Nepalese, both royalists and the Maoists, have been feeling treated unfairly by India. See my early post http://www.defence.pk/forums/indian...nepal-border-feud-plot-thickens-new-film.html

Even though Prachanda's communists don’t quite see eye to eye with CPC, China has settled boarder issue with Nepal, always respected Nepal’s territorial integrity and its people’s choice. Nepal has also done well in against Tibetan separatists, unlike India which still homes TYC, etc. That is probably why Mr. Prachanda chooses to visit China first.

Indian doesn’t have to be mad on this. As a matter of fact, Dr. Singh has set yet another excellent example. (BTW, I’m personally respect Dr. Singh very much) If India can return 1/3 of Nepal’s land and treat Nepal more equally, Mr. Prachanda will be more than willing to lean towards India.

Rumor goes that Prachanda may visit Mao’s birth place, Shaoshan, in China.
 
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The Nepalese, both royalists and the Maoists, have been feeling treated unfairly by India. See my early post http://www.defence.pk/forums/indian...nepal-border-feud-plot-thickens-new-film.html

Even though Prachanda's communists don’t quite see eye to eye with CPC, China has settled boarder issue with Nepal, always respected Nepal’s territorial integrity and its people’s choice. Nepal has also done well in against Tibetan separatists, unlike India which still homes TYC, etc. That is probably why Mr. Prachanda chooses to visit China first.

Indian doesn’t have to be mad on this. As a matter of fact, Dr. Singh has set yet another excellent example. (BTW, I’m personally respect Dr. Singh very much) If India can return 1/3 of Nepal’s land and treat Nepal more equally, Mr. Prachanda will be more than willing to lean towards India.

Rumor goes that Prachanda may visit Mao’s birth place, Shaoshan, in China.

You still hung-up over that propaganda?

Let me tell you what Prachanda is doing; it is doing what Bangladesh has been doing. Playing the China card to score brownie points on the negotiation table.

Why do you always ignore geography and historical links and fall for rhetoric?
 
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First political visit will be to India: Prachanda


Prerana Marasini

KATHMANDU: Nepal’s Prime Minister’s Pushpa Kamal Dahal (Prachanda) on Wednesday clarified his recent visit to China was not “political.”

“My first political visit will be to India,” he told reporters at the Tribhuvan International Airport on Wednesday, upon returning from a four-day visit to Beijing to attend the Olympics closing ceremony. “My visit to China was not a political one and it should not be taken otherwise,” said Mr. Prachanda.

About his first visit to India, he said: “Because of India’s support to Nepal since the 12-point agreement [signed by the Maoists and Seven Party Alliance in New Delhi in 2005], and because we share a similar culture, geography, and history, my first political visit will be in India,” he said.

Earlier, Nepal’s newly elected Premiers visited India on their maiden foreign trip, but Mr. Prachanda went to China, prompting leaders in Nepal and India to say he broke with tradition.

The Hindu : International : First political visit will be to India: Prachanda
 
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Thats bull-$hit he's saying now to cover himself from all sides. His first visit was to China, he should atleast have the gall to accept his descisions. Whats this crap about a 'political visit' and a 'non-political' visit.
 
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Thats bull- he's saying now to cover himself from all sides. His first visit was to China, he should atleast have the gall to accept his descisions. Whats this crap about a 'political visit' and a 'non-political' visit.

Maybe he just wanted to see the Olympics Closing Ceremony :lol:
 
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Prachanda's visit to Beijing irks New Delhi

Shamsuddin Ahmed

HOLIDAY - August 29, 2008

The newly elected 'Maoist' Prime Minister of Nepal Pushpa Kamal Dahal (better known as Prachanda) made his first ever foreign trip to China barely a couple of days after taking oath as the country's Prime Minister to India's chagrin.

"China visit has proved crucial for the construction of new Nepal," Prime Minister Prachanda was quoted as saying after the visit by the media. He returned home Wednesday with an initial gift of US$300,000 from China for the flood affected people and assurance of further cooperation and assistance in all sectors of the economy including trade and investment and security of Nepal's territorial integrity.

During his brief stay in China, he was given a warm and red carpet reception in Beijing and had an hour-long meeting with the Chinese President. He also
had talks with other key leaders.

The BJP threat

Obviously, his visit to Beijing and the statement he made has not endeared him to New Delhi, which was manifested in the 'note of warning' Prachanda received from the fundamentalist opposition BJP in India.

On his return home Wednesday he received a message from BJP, the main Indian opposition party poised for power next year. The BJP message was very clear; it has proposed to the Maoist government of Nepal to accept Hindi as the second national language and warned of 'serious consequences' if it is not complied with. The Nepal News also quoted BJP as saying: "If the new government of Nepal takes any policy against Hindi, Hindu religion and India, it would affect the lives of 7 million Nepalese residing in India."

Prachanda, however, tried to assuage the anger of New Delhi from the very beginning. He said he went to Beijing to attend the concluding ceremony of the Olympic games. He told a press conference that his first and formal official visit will obviously be India. But his political foes at home, especially Nepali Congress, accused him of breaking the unwritten rules of visiting India by the newly elected prime minister.

Soon after winning the April election Prachanda had pledged that his government would maintain equidistance from both the giant neighbours, India on the south and China on the north.

Rise of nationalism

One thing is clear. The victory of Maoist in Nepal election appears to have given a boost to the younger generation and raised a sense of nationalism. Student fronts of all the major political parties including that of Nepali Congress had burst in anger when Premananda Jha, the newly elected Vice-President, took the oath of office in Hindi in late July.

This followed a week-long protest by people who demonstrated and enforced strikes in different parts of the country demanding Jha's resignation. Politicians also condemned him for taking oath in Hindi, wearing dhuti and kurta ignoring Nepali language and traditional Nepali dress. Jha, an MJF leader, came from Terai area bordering India. Meanwhile, a writ petition was filed against him at the High Court asking him to take fresh oath in Nepali language.

The China connection

It may be recalled that the then Chinese President Ziang Jemin had visited Nepal just a week before the June 1, 2001 killing of King Birendra of Nepal in the palace massacre. The King and the President had agreed on the construction of five major roads in border areas to establish direct road link between the two countries, including one to be build immediately at Rashuna border that would link Nepal with Lasha highway. This was not liked by New Delhi.

Incidentally, in late 1980s, the construction of Kathmandu-Lasha road had enraged India so much that it had closed all the Indo-Nepal border check-posts completely halting the supply of imported goods and commodities including fuel oil. Western commentators had described it as 'undeclared war against the landlocked Nepal'. The blockade was ultimately withdrawn on New Delhi's terms.

Meanwhile, the victory of the Maoists in Nepal has seemingly encouraged Maoists in India who are reportedly gaining grounds in southern and eastern states raising concerns of India's ruling coalition partners.

The Maoist victory in Nepal in the election belied the prediction of the media. It took long four months for the party to form the government after entering into an alliance with UML (Marxist-Leninist) and MJF who are holding divergence views. Although both are communists, Maoist and UML hold different views. MJF has no political ideology, simply based on regional sentiment of the Mahdesi Terai region bordering India. Mahdesis had strongly opposed the Maoists in the past.

According to Keshab Poudel, a political analyst of Kathmandu, the 3-party coalition led by the Maoists looks quite fragile. The future of Prachanda's coalition will depend largely on how the parties balance their interests while trying to promote political stability.

Prachanda and his party colleagues, however, are hopeful. He commanded guerrilla war for a decade. A dreaded Marxist revolutionary Prachanda made history by becoming the first elected Prime Minister of Republic of Nepal. He is confident of balancing relationship with China and India and steer the country to progress.

HOLIDAY > FRONT PAGE
 
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The BJP message was very clear; it has proposed to the Maoist government of Nepal to accept Hindi as the second national language and warned of 'serious consequences' if it is not complied with.

If it is true, isn't it very much imperialistic?
 
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You still hung-up over that propaganda?

Let me tell you what Prachanda is doing; it is doing what Bangladesh has been doing. Playing the China card to score brownie points on the negotiation table.

Why do you always ignore geography and historical links and fall for rhetoric?

Is 1/3 land loss to India true or false?

Why India shut ports when Nepal build Kathmandu-Lasha road to China?

Shouldn't everyone "live and let live?"

Small countries of course need to take a balanced position for their own benefits, what's wrong?
 
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Is 1/3 land loss to India true or false?

False.

Why India shut ports when Nepal build Kathmandu-Lasha road to China?

Firstly, link please. Secondly, what would you do if we open a consulate in Taiwan?

Shouldn't everyone "live and let live?"

Small countries of course need to take a balanced position for their own benefits, what's wrong?

Tell that to the CCP.
 
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