PM Imran Khan vs Opposition No Confidence Vote- Updates and Discussion

[teX]

According to someone from army I just spoke with, IK was supported by army but done something which upset army so they withdrew support and now army supports no one and it’s truly neutral for this crisis. Also the thing which upset army leadership was done some time ago.
Is that true?
If it is could that be why Retired General Tariq Khan isn’t heading the commission?

maybe isi dg appointment or related to that (afgh) ? :p

 

[yusufjee]

According to someone from army I just spoke with, IK was supported by army but done something which upset army so they withdrew support and now army supports no one and it’s truly neutral for this crisis. Also the thing which upset army leadership was done some time ago.
Is that true?
If it is could that be why Retired General Tariq Khan isn’t heading the commission?

Yes. DG ISI issue. PM office did not approve the new DG ISI appointment and IK decided to conduct interviews. Usually when ARMY issues a letter this means it is a done deal.

 

[Sayfullah]

Lettergate propaganda

Apparently the letter is fake it was just minutes of a meeting of opinions of a low ranking White House official.
Btw that’s not what I think rather what an army person told me.
Idk if it’s true though?
Maybe @PanzerKiel could tell us

 

[Oruc]

do the opposition even have the numbers there?

نہ بھی ہوں پنگا تے کر دتا نا.
Now pti has to make sure of their MPAs kpk also unless some group emerges.

 

[Meengla]

Anyways lets hope IK doesn't do anything stupid today.

Time to retreat and reorganize.

There will be new faces in a couple of months. These new faces will want to consolidate their position by winning the trust of the institution. Institutional pressure will play its role.

It is important for IK to realize his mistakes and not come off as a petulant child now.

Inflation and corruption will make sure this chorun ka guldasta will earn the wrath of the public.

Thank God for some sense!
The Opposition is made up of Make-Quick-Bucks 'politicians' and are bound to fail. The Sunday's stupidity was not at all needed and neither more stupidity needed from Imran Khan.
But then some people know that they can get away with anything--as they always have in their lives. So who knows.

 

[Winchester]

Winshester says.....COAS is better than Indian singer Jass Bajwa, who was booked by Chindigarh police for inciting violence.

You actually googled Jass Bajwa

To be fair, I also said he is very tall.

 

[Imran Khan]

1. A couple of diplomatic scandals concerning Pakistan's relationship with UAE and KSA.
2. Criticism and halting of CPEC projects. This also displeased China.
3. Corruption within PTI including scandals involving Buzdar, Tareen, and Zulfi Bukhari.
4. Horrible inflation.
5. Lettergate propaganda.

Do not argue the validity of these reasons with me. Contact GHQ.

چائنا تو اب خؤد پچھتا رہا ہے سی پی ای سی بنا کر ۔ شی جی پنگ کل کھوکھے پر بیٹھا ہو گا اگر یہی حال رہا تو۔ یہ وہ ملک ہے جس نے اپنے آپ ک برباد کر لیا چائنا کو برباد کرنا کونسی بڑی بات ہے

 

[Marcus-Aurelius]

Anyways lets hope IK doesn't do anything stupid today.

Time to retreat and reorganize.

There will be new faces in a couple of months. These new faces will want to consolidate their position by winning the trust of the institution. Institutional pressure will play its role.

It is important for IK to realize his mistakes and not come off as a petulant child now.

Inflation and corruption will make sure this chorun ka guldasta will earn the wrath of the public.

I believe IK should do anything and everything within his power and influence to prevent those corrupt monkeys from PPP/PMLN to get back into power, even if it is for a short period of time. You don't give cancer another chance, you radiate and destroy it. I know it is easy talking for me, but I believe at least 2/3 of this country of 220 million have seen enough suffering and lack of progress the last few decades. Nib this cancer in the bud, even if he would take unconstitutional steps and appear to undermine democracy (which is already a farce in Pakistan), whatever measures must be taken should be taken in order to eradicate this cancerous family dynasty which has infected Pakistani society and institutions from top to bottom.

This is the future of Pakistan we're talking about, it's not some sort of Icecream shop where we change owners for a temporary period of time, only to come back and have someone else manage it again for their turn. We simply cannot afford to lack behind any further in this day and age. I have painful examples of family members within Pakistan who have died at a young age due to malpractise in Pakistani hospitals. Family suffering from Hepatitis C due to an infected needle being used by a doctor, family dying in a motorcycle accident because we have no proper rules and regulations in place, these are just a few examples of a never ending list of grievances I have regarding the current state of Pakistan. It's not something to be proud of. Why did my aunt have to die because of malpractise caused by corruption within Pakistan's healthcare system? You see, everyone is doing it, there is no law and order, it's a jungle.

The so-called "neutrality" of the establishment is a criminal offence in my opinion. It is obvious that this no-confidence motion is supported by forces abroad. The foreign trips conducted by the opposition lately, meeting U.S. officials; but also the lettergate scandal is just one of many examples that there is more at play here. I haven't even mentioned horse-trading. Democracy and our so called constitution is a total FARCE. Everyone cheering for this verdict saying that we "upheld" the constitution is why Pakistan is a backward nation. So now all of the sudden we cherish our constitution? I am afraid our nation is too much divided in order to form a unity/consensus on which direction we should go, and due to that, I am reluctant to invest in Pakistan myself.

Might as well make Pakistan a separate province of China and have Xi Jinping sort out the mess, at least we'll have proper rule of law and a pathway towards prosperity, something China has done for its citizens within a remarkable time frame...

 

[Hareeb]

kaun sa highcourt? supreme court is above highcourt my friend!

SC violated Article 69.

 

[Winchester]

Thank God for some sense!
The Opposition is made up of Make-Quick-Bucks 'politicians' and are bound to fail. The Sunday's stupidity was not at all needed and neither more stupidity needed from Imran Khan.
But then some people know that they can get away with anything--as they always have in their lives. So who knows.

On the 15th of April, on OGRAs recommendation, Shahbaz Sharif will increase the price of petrol by 20 PKR at least.

This would be the day, PTI will have the chance to build up some real public pressure.

 

[yusufjee]

جنرل (ر) طارق خان کے قریبی زرائع نے بتایا ہے کہ انہیں کال آئی اور کہا گیا وہ کمیشن کی سربراہی نہ لیں- قریبی زرائع کے مطابق جنرل (ر) طارق خان نے کمیشن کی سربراہی سے اپنی معزرت سے حکومت کو آگاہ کر دیا ہے-

Establishment ki dum pr sahi paoon rakha hai IK nay jo itna gussa aaya hua hai.

 

[The Terminator]

Cant be Army because as some posters here believe, Army doesnt have any spine left.....well then, who is the new player then, the one who has spine.....lets find him out,

Ok then I apologize from this forum . And I retract my statement involving spine. It seems to hurt you a lot. And I don't wanna hurt those who have hearts under their uniforms. I am sorry and it's good to see that you people actually have feelings contrary to what it's been portrayed by your cold stance.

 

[RAMPAGE]

Apparently the letter is fake it was just minutes of a meeting of opinions of a low ranking White House official.
Btw that’s not what I think rather what an army person told me.
Idk if it’s true though?
Maybe @PanzerKiel could tell us

True. IK lied through his teeth.

 

[Sayfullah]

Its your own beliefs....whatever you want to believe, believe it, i'm a nobody, you wont change your thinking due to me...

Beliefs form with knowledge.
If you only study from one book your belief will only be from it. If you study from many books you’ll have a more accurate belief.
You won’t change my view but your knowledge will contribute to my knowledge which will shape my belief to be more accurate.
After all no one should keep knowledge from others especially if it’ll help the others.

You can’t fight propaganda by being silent.

(Btw I don’t have the belief of the majority here I’m not anti army)

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Supreme court has broke Law , interfering in actions of Assembly
Supreme court has broken law , undermining our Prime Minister and President of Pakistan

Supreme court's "opinion" on Subject , can only be considered and can be rejected by Pakistan's Prime Minister and President of Pakistan