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Brilliant!
Look. As much I support Imran Khan, it will always be Pakistan First! I am an oldie who has seen a lot and I believe that chaos is even worse than corruption and that the issues afflicting Pakistan have their roots in changes of governments over Pakistan's history. And I also believe we need to work with what we have and that is the Const. of Pakistan and follow its writ in letter and spirit. If exceptions are given to Imran Khan today then exceptions would be given to Bilawal Bhutto tomorrow. Today's act by Imran Khan is illegal and unnecessary and the courts should reject it BUT also a way to be found which would allow fresh elections but without violating Const. rights of the opposition unless it can be legally proved that some foreign power is actively behind them.

Living in America for decades, I have to admire that despite all the extremely bitter political divides, Americans instinctively know that chaos is worse than the next govt coming to power which they may intensely hate, and the stability is the bedrock of American progress and prosperity. Failed and failing states have one thing in common: They couldn't handle transitions of power.

I would have taken your opinion seriously, but you're hiding your support to PDM, behind technicalities, wall of texts and your flag says otherwise.

There is writing on the wall that PDM is foreign puppet.

They have held meeting with foreign ambassadors throughout the year. Even then I said on here on forums that there will be maligning/assassinations campaigns PM Imran Khan.

-- The National Security Committee which comprises of Federal Cabinet, Armed Forces Chiefs and all the bigwigs have accepted that foreign interference indeed took place with the help of lawmakers from PDM (which includes PPP, PMLN, JUI-F etc.)

Also, the Supreme Court cant challenge parliamentary affairs.
 
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اتفاق فائونڈری کا سریا چڈی میں الاسٹک ڈالنے کے کام آتا ہے
 
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If Supreme court was that much interested
  • Cancel bail orders for Shabaz Sharif
  • Cancel bail orders for Hamza Sharif
  • Cancel bail orders for Maryerm Sharif
  • Let us know when Nawaz Sharif is returning back to Pakistan as promised by Guarantor Showbaz Sharif
  • Let us know why the Properties were not Auctioned to recover assets




Let me answer No Violation has occurred


1- Speaker of Assembly of Pakistan is head of National Assembly , he listens the incoming petitions, his loyalty lies to Pakistan.

Let us understand first that Speaker of National Assembly is a powerful role

"Speaker of National Assembly is the Backup President of Pakistan in case current President of Pakistan dies or becomes so gravely ill they cannot do their duties"



It is his Job to Accept or Reject petition

2- He reviewed the evidence which showcases "grave danger to state"
  • Report of Grave Danger against state of Pakistan, danger on live of Prime Minister Imran Khan and President of Pakistan. Outcome of the National Security Council Meeting (Pakistani Security Leaders)
  • National Security Council attended by Military & Intelligence also including the Pakistan's Defense Minister
  • He reviewed the Physical Evidence
    • Missile Attack , a physical Evidence verified by Military of Pakistan
    • Diplomatic threat from USA and Diplomat against state of Pakistan , again a physical Evidence
    • The letter talked about No Confidence motion being approved by a Foreign Entity and a desirable outcome.
    • There were laws broken, Political Party Act of Pakistan where a member elected from one party cannot jump ship before formally resigning first. These members also broken Party Memo to not vote
    • The threat was discussed on all national TV channels openly

3- Based on the mounting Evidence a threat against state of Pakistan was visible ,therefore it was Substantial Risk , which caused the Speake to throw out the Petition as Country was under state of External Threat


Since the Petition was thrown out nothing was decided, due to National Security Threat


End of Session
1- Prime Minister , Pakistan , advised the President of Pakistan to call for new General Elections in 90 Days

2- President of Pakistan , accepted the proposal and Power is back in hand of people



Supreme Court :
Why would it object to Power being returned to People of Pakistan in general elections ?

Article 69 should take 1 hour to pass judgement that Good Luck to all political parties , and go reach out to people and ask for their vote







Further more
(Note this law exists in Pakistan's constitution Imran Khan did not made this law)


Article 63A states , any member of a party cannot become a Lota
(flip flopper) or one who gets elected from party A and then votes for another opposing party favor

Example:
This law is now applicable against renegade politicians

If PTI issues a statement to it's member to not vote against it , the members who elected on their ticket cannot change affiliation or loyalty of party


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Since article 63A states the Politicians can't sell their vote or change alliance or acts against the direction of their Party head , this itself disqualifies the Politicians who were traitors to PTI


Imran Khan already follow law again
He already warned the Politicians (who went rouge) and wanted to against the party

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Constitution of Pakistan states , members can't be "Lota" so how can opposition claim majority and also when Grave Danger to state of Pakistan's security is established
چیف جسٹس کا سارا ٹبر پٹواری ہے ۔
 
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First the culprits needs to be punished according to the constitution.


Than we should go for fresh elections.

Sure. People who took money from foreign powers to change the govt should be in prisons and asap!
But what you are quoting here is probably a diplomatic screw up and imperial over-reach--a hubristic wish. Americans are very arrogant these days; look at the threats to China and India after the Ukraine war started. But that meeting still does not automatically translate into a Morsi like change of govt attempt. Investigation is needed.
 
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چیف جسٹس کا سارا ٹبر پٹواری ہے ۔

It is responsibility of Every Pakistani to Educate each other!!

Pakistanis need to Spread Article 69 Details
Supreme Court has no power over National Assembly

ANTI-INTERFERENCE ARTICLE
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ANTI LOTA (FLIP FLOPPER) ARTICLE
Pakistani need to spread Article 63 Anti Lota Details to Educate our Countrymen so we know our freedom

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Based on these two Articles
a) PDM can never have 172+ Seats , as any defected votes from PTI will not count according to state of Pakistan own constitution , instead the renegade politicians can be banned for life

b) Courts Can not interfere in matters of National Assembly
 
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Great, the day the Sharif & Zardari family are exiled or executed, Pak will regain its independence.
 
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my friend we would have seen an invasion or bloody coup/regime change a long time ago Libya, Iraq, Syria style if it were not for one thing that held them back, nuclear weapons. That's the difference between Pakistan and every country America has tried to and has destroyed in the past for their "national security interests."
If American puppets had their way we would not be a nuclear power by now that's why its important to remove American puppets from power by any means possible and "any means" means "any means"
 
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Any legal experts on PDF? Can Supreme Court interfere in parliament decisions?
 
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It is responsibility of Every Pakistani to Educate each other!!

Pakistanis need to Spread Article 69 Details
Supreme Court has no power over National Assembly

ANTI-INTERFERENCE ARTICLE
fpavelawyagzt6l-jpeg.830137



ANTI LOTA (FLIP FLOPPER) ARTICLE
Pakistani need to spread Article 63 Anti Lota Details to Educate our Countrymen so we know our freedom

1648998283297.png





Based on these two Articles
a) PDM can never have 172+ Seats , as any defected votes from PTI will not count according to state of Pakistan own constitution , instead the renegade politicians can be banned for life

b) Courts Can not interfere in matters of National Assembly

Jazak Allah brother,

Every Pakistani needs to know about this.

Please share this and don't let any traitor, foreign puppet hide behind technicalities and wall of texts.
 
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Government dissolved itself under foreign pressure and this is suppose to be celebrated as some break the shackles moment?

Incredible.

Will IMF deal be allowed to be made public?
 
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It wasn't challenged nor taken up later

I strongly suggest to update yourself. It was all over the news. Prosecutor asked for a review from the judge and he said if you are not happy, go to higher courts.

Not every Pakistani goes around saying he amended NAB laws to help friends with ease of business.
So as per your "corrupt by association" definition which includes almost EVERYONE in Pakistan, are you saying that there should be no accountability because EVERY ONE is somehow corrupt by association?


What is your point?
 
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Najam Sethi has clarified on Indian TV that this move by Imran is totally illegal. As per him, Supreme Court will quickly invalidate Imran's actions in a couple of days and allow for a no-confidence vote. :coffee:

Usually, cases in subcontinent can take months to find a resolution. So maybe Sethiji is a tad too optimistic :undecided:
 
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strongly suggest to update yourself. It was all over the news. Prosecutor asked for a review from the judge and he said if you are not happy, go to higher courts.
Did they go to higher courts?
So as per your "corrupt by association" definition which includes almost EVERYONE in Pakistan, are you saying that there should be no accountability because EVERY ONE is somehow corrupt by association?


What is your point?

It's not my problem if you don't understand what corruption is. The whole government reeks of nepotism.
 
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Sure. People who took money from foreign powers to change the govt should be in prisons and asap!
But what you are quoting here is probably a diplomatic screw up and imperial over-reach--a hubristic wish. Americans are very arrogant these days; look at the threats to China and India after the Ukraine war started. But that meeting still does not automatically translate into a Morsi like change of govt attempt. Investigation is needed.

Sir you have big gaps and selective application, NCV according to your first line in your post deserved the treatment it got and yes what happened is within the constitutional power of deputy speaker.

Its a regime change operation.

All the PDM leaders who directly collaborated with and part of this regime change operation should be arrested, tried under article 6 and hanged publically, let alone debating the legality of a foreign sponsored NCV.
 
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