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Some more nonsense, as expected.


facts are hard to digest... especially after eating oil filled keema naan



Essential reading for your education

"Economists accuse Islamabad of fudging numbers for fund’s benefit"

Disdain over IMF’s rosy view of Pakistan​


The only singularly successful IMF program in our entire history was by Ishaq Dar and you tell me that he shared fudged numbers with IMF.

Yes... a fact stated by General Musharaf and Shaukat Aziz on record when they took over. As per FT article your fact fudger Darr has continued with his old habit.

Like i said you need to get off Maruym tweets and keema naan

interested in childish nonsense

I agree.. you are that.

blamed on previous Government after 3.5 years of Governance and continuously deteriorating situation.

wait..

let me eat keema naan right now..

burrrp



Ok agree with you Pakistan was a Swizterland during noon times and under PTI it has become Angola.

Bad Imran

Good Nawj


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Disdain over IMF’s rosy view of Pakistan Economists accuse Islamabad of fudging numbers for fund’s benefit

Even by the easy-going standards of a club reluctant to offend its members, the International Monetary Fund was unusually kind in its latest assessment of Pakistan’s economic reforms. After a meeting with Pakistani officials in Dubai this month — terrorism-prone Pakistan itself is considered too dangerous a venue — the IMF praised the Nawaz Sharif government’s “commitment and progress” in improving “economic resilience” and promoting growth and private sector jobs. By some measures Pakistan is recovering. Inflation and both the budget and current account deficits are down, while growth should reach 4.5 per cent in the current fiscal year. Foreign exchange reserves have increased to more than $13bn, covering three months of imports. Pakistan’s private investors and independent economists, however, are not as sanguine as the IMF about the performance of a country that has long been a laggard in Asia and is struggling to create the millions of jobs a year it needs to employ newcomers to the workforce.

They argue that Islamabad has failed to use the financial windfall from lower oil prices to accelerate reform, has juggled the numbers for the IMF’s benefit to make some data look better than they really are, and has caused severe damage to the real economy with a perverse campaign to maintain a strong currency.

“We’ve been here before,” says Sakib Sherani of Macro Economic Insights, referring to the tenure of the military dictator Pervez Musharraf a decade ago when there was talk of Pakistan having turned the economic corner. The IMF and other cheerleaders, he says, “are all talking about something that’s quite different from the real economy: our ability to repay bondholders”.

The rise in reserves, Mr Sherani argues, is a “bit like a Ponzi scheme”, because most of the new reserves are borrowed from the IMF and other creditors. As for the reduction of the fiscal deficit, it is based on harassing existing taxpayers more than on an overdue expansion of the tax base or a review of expenditure. “It’s only when you scratch the surface and look below that you find things are not really that great,” he says. Mian Mansha, the Lahore-based tycoon reputed to be Pakistan’s richest man, is equally sceptical about the government’s record on reforming lossmaking state companies and the tax system.

“There are only 350,000 people who pay more than $100,000 in tax, and five of them are in my house,” he says. But Mr Mansha’s biggest gripe is about the impact of the strong Pakistani rupee — Ishaq Dar, finance minister, has kept it at about 100 to the dollar despite the US currency’s global strength — on his textile factories and other manufacturing plants. “We are having a very tough time here in certain industries,” he says, noting that other garment exporters such as Turkey have stayed competitive following a sharp devaluation of their currencies. Ashraf Wathra, central bank governor, insists previous devaluations have not helped exports.

“There is no correlation at all,” he says. He defends Pakistan’s implementation of the latest IMF programme that ends in 2016 and describes the overall direction as “rather optimistic”.

Mr Sharif’s cabinet is also upbeat. Ahsan Iqbal, planning minister, says the current government is turning round the “disastrous situation” it inherited in 2013, and he sets great store by the infrastructure investment now promised by China. “A country that people looked at as a safe haven for terrorists, they are now looking at as a safe haven for $46bn of Chinese investment,” he says. “We see Pakistan as a hub of trade and commerce in the region — south Asia, China and central Asia.” The critics are not convinced, either by the future Chinese power stations — which they say look overpriced according to the limited project information available — or by the official economic data welcomed by the IMF.

“In our close to 70 years’ history, we’ve never had a government that fudged statistics to the extent of this one,” says Hafeez Pasha, an economist and former finance minister.

Actual growth, he says, is more like 3.5 per cent than the official 4.2 per cent, while the budget deficit is closer to 8.5 per cent than 5 per cent.


Moreover, he argues, the money borrowed to increase foreign reserves has burdened Pakistan with unsustainable debt, the currency is “hugely overvalued” and inequality is rising as a “rapacious elite” spends billions on buying property in Dubai.

“Here in Pakistan, it’s really the poor who are getting it bad,” Mr Pasha says. “The end result is despair, disillusionment.” His gloom is in sharp contrast to the IMF’s publicly expressed hope that Pakistan will turn into a “dynamic emerging market economy” but at least one official statistic backs him up. According to the latest annual figures, Pakistan’s literacy rate has fallen to 58 per cent from a peak of 60 per cent in 2012-13.


Nice to see how much foreign resident pakistanis seem to know about "ground realities" and "public support", even more than resident pakistanis 😉.

nice an indian coming to PDF to get a real education
 
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given your ignorance and self serving logic..

totally understandable
Like we don't have relatives living there who tell us how life is changing, and we can't assess based on stats and other observations.
 
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Like we don't have relatives living there who tell us how life is changing, and we can't assess based on stats and other observations.


it is simple

How do any of the oppposition members make thier money?

Answer :

No answer,


I do not need to know every thing detail, we can assess on key issues,


IK has done alot to advance Pakistan , still a long way to go but he is trying hard.

the Opposition : list me one postive they did for the benefit of Pakistan..
 
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Some noonies be like "Hamara bhagora parchi kanjar lutera corroupt suur ka bacha leader is much much better than your incompetent Imran Khan".... Ok my friend more biryani to you...


or donkey keema naan
 
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facts are hard to digest... especially after eating oil filled keema naan



Essential reading for your education

"Economists accuse Islamabad of fudging numbers for fund’s benefit"

Disdain over IMF’s rosy view of Pakistan​

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You have trouble understanding the difference between fact (IMF acknowledgement) and accusation (so called unnamed economists where only 1 name is mentioned against a personal opinion).
 
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NA session adjourned till March 31 after tabling of no-confidence resolution against PM Imran

Dawn.com
March 28, 2022


Leader of the Opposition Shehbaz Sharif presents the no-trust resolution against PM Imran Khan. — Photo: DawnNewsTV


Leader of the Opposition Shehbaz Sharif presents the no-trust resolution against PM Imran Khan. — Photo: DawnNewsTV


Deputy Speaker of the National Assembly Qasim Khan presided over the NA session on Monday. — Photo: DawnNewsTV

Deputy Speaker of the National Assembly Qasim Khan presided over the NA session on Monday. — Photo: DawnNewsTV



Leader of the Opposition Shehbaz Sharif on Monday tabled in the National Assembly a no-confidence resolution against Prime Minister Imran Khan.
As the much-anticipated session — which had the no-confidence resolution on its 26-point agenda — began after a two-day recess, Deputy Speaker of the National Assembly Qasim Khan Suri presided it.

Leader of the Opposition Shehbaz Sharif requested the chair for permission to present the no-trust motion against Prime Minister Imran Khan. "I will request that you (Suri) give permission to present this item in the house ... as the resolution was already on the agenda," he said addressing the NA deputy speaker.

Subsequently, voting was held to ascertain if the resolution should be tabled. According to NA rules, votes of at least 20 per cent of the total MNAs in the house — which means 68 members — are required to have the no-confidence resolution accepted for voting against the prime minister.

After the counting of the votes, the deputy speaker announced that 161 lawmakers had voted in favour of tabling of the resolution and hence, the "permission is granted to present the no-confidence resolution".

He then asked Sharif to present the resolution, at which the opposition leader rose and read out the resolution.

"Through this resolution, under clause 1 of Article 95 of the Constitution of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, this House resolve that it has no confidence in the prime minister, Mr Imran Khan Niazi, and consequently, he shall cease to hold office under clause 4 ibid," he said.
Following the tabling of the resolution, the deputy speaker announced that debate on the resolution would begin on March 31.
"The session is adjourned until 4pm on March 31," he said.

At the start of the session, Suri asked Adviser to the Prime Minister on Parliamentary Affairs Babar Awan to present the first agenda on the item.
Awan then presented a motion seeking the suspension of the question-answer session for the day under rule 288 of the Rules of Procedures and Conduct of Business in the NA.

Rule 69 states: "Except otherwise provided in these rules, the first hour of every sitting, after the recitation from the Holy Quran, and taking oath by members, if any, shall be available for asking and answering questions."

"I wish to move under rule 288 of the Rules and Procedures and Conduct of Business in the National Assembly, 2007, that the requirements of rule 69 of the said rules be suspended in respect of the question hour for today, March 20 and the starred question be treated as unstarred," Awan read.
The no-trust resolution against the prime minister was earlier expected to be tabled on Friday, but the proceedings were deferred after NA Speaker Asad Qaiser had adjourned the sitting within minutes and ignored Opposition Leader Shehbaz Sharif who wanted to seek the floor to deliver a speech.

He did not allow the opposition’s no-trust resolution to be tabled after offering fateha for the deceased Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf MNA from Hangu, Khayal Zaman, as per the parliamentary tradition.


It is a parliamentary convention that the first sitting after the death of an MNA is limited to prayers for the soul of the departed and tributes fellow lawmakers wish to pay them.

Qaiser had stated at the time that according to tradition, the agenda was deferred to the next day when a member of the lower house passed away.
Later, the opposition had lashed out at the speaker for not giving floor to Shehbaz, stating that it was also a parliamentary tradition that the opposition leader was always given the floor whenever he stood up to speak.

Venting their anger at the speaker after the session, the opposition leaders had alleged that the speaker was running the parliament “like a member of the ruling PTI and not the custodian of the house”.

Delay in session​

Friday's session was summoned three days after the expiry of the constitutionally mandatory 14-day deadline for the session to begin, with the opposition having submitted the no-confidence motion with the NA Secretariat on March 8.

The opposition had submitted two sets of documents at the time, one under Article 54 of the Constitution to requisition the because it was not in session, and the other a resolution calling for a no-confidence vote against the prime minister.

According to Article 54, a session of the National Assembly can be requisitioned if at least 25 per cent of the members sign it, following which the speaker has a maximum of 14 days to summon a session.

Meanwhile, Article 95 of the Constitution and rules of procedure of the house mandate that a no-confidence resolution against the premier must have the signatures of at least 20 per cent of the members of the NA, which means at least 68 members, for it to be voted on.
After the NA is in session, the rules of procedure dictate that the secretary will circulate a notice for a no-confidence resolution, which will be moved on the next working day.

From the day the resolution is moved, it "shall not be voted upon before the expiry of three days, or later than seven days," according to the rules.

Therefore, the speaker should have called the lower house in session by March 22, while voting on the no-confidence motion should take place between three and seven days after the session is summoned.

However, the speaker had called the session on March 25, three days after the March 22 deadline, citing the occupation of the NA chamber for the 48th session of the Organisation of Islamic Countries Council of Foreign Ministers on March 22 and 23.

'Fate of the resolution by Mar 31'​

With no-confidence proceedings against the premier expected to begin today, Interior Minister Shaikh Rashid has said that the fate of the resolution is expected to be decided by March 31.

However, he had earlier told a news conference that the voting on the no-trust motion would take place on April 4 if the speaker allowed its tabling on Monday, hinting that the government could further delay the process.

Meanwhile, the opposition parties have planned to hold a strong protest inside and outside the National Assembly if the speaker further delays presenting the no-confidence motion.

Tracking numbers​

The opposition needs votes from at least 172 lawmakers for the no-trust move to succeed.

After the decision of Shahzain Bugti of the Jamhoori Watan Party to quit the ruling coalition on Sunday, the number of treasury members has now reduced to 178 in the 342-member lower house of the parliament, whereas the opposition now enjoys the support of 163 MNAs.

The PML-Q, the Balochistan Awami Party and the Muttahida Qaumi Movement-Pakistan — the three major government allies collectively having 17 MNAs — have yet to decide which side they are on. These parties are still negotiating with both the government and opposition parties.

Besides, over a dozen PTI dissident MNAs have already come into the open with their criticism on the government policies, indicating that they might support the opposition’s no-trust motion even at the cost of being disqualified as NA members. However, some of the lawmakers have denied defection after they were issued show-cause notices by the party, which sought explanations from them as to why they may not be declared defectors.

Hence, the alliances of these dissident lawmakers remain unclear.

South Punjab bill​

A government-sponsored constitution amendment bill seeking the creation of the south Punjab province is also on today's agenda.

Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi told the media on Sunday that he had submitted a constitution amendment bill to the National Assembly secretariat, seeking the creation of the south Punjab province.

It was at Qureshi’s request that the speaker had immediately issued orders to put the bill on Monday’s agenda.

The move has come at a time when the PTI is struggling to win back support of its allies and dissidents within the party, many of whom happen to be from south Punjab.

Under the draft bill, the south Punjab province would have 56 seats in the National Assembly, including 46 general seats, and 119 in its provincial assembly. Creating south Punjab as the country’s fifth province was one of PTI’s election manifestos.

“Today, we have fulfilled another promise made to the people of south Punjab,” Qureshi told reporters, adding that he had moved the bill on the prime minister’s directive. He urged opposition parties, including the PPP and PML-N, to support the constitution amendment bill.
A bill seeking the creation of south Punjab province introduced by PML-N’s Rana Mehmoodul Hasan and was supported by both PTI and PPP has already been pending before the Senate since January.

Two ordinances, besides resolutions seeking extension in the constitutional life of three other ordinances, are also on today's agenda. Interestingly, two of the ordinances have already expired.


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