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PM Imran Khan and US President Donald Trump meeting on July 22 in Washington

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Mark my words, after this visit US will offer Pak Cobras and 20+ block 70 Vipers ;)
Would be great 35 blk 70 along used one with AESA upgrades for our current fleet enough keep Modi away from LOC. I dreamed few weeks back US offered F35 to Pak don't take me crazy it was just a dream as per pentagon crosspondants Lara Seligman F35 would be 70 to 80 million per copy very soon we never know due to Iran pak become very crucial for US and her allies in mideast. Good times r ahead for Pak US relationship IA.
 
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What Indian lobby ? relations with countries are driven by national interests
Thanks for letting me know I stand corrected there is no Indian lobby working in US. From now onwards I will try to assume that.

Would be great 35 blk 70 along used one with AESA upgrades for our current fleet enough keep Modi away from LOC. I dreamed few weeks back US offered F35 to Pak don't take me crazy it was just a dream as per pentagon crosspondants Lara Seligman F35 would be 70 to 80 million per copy very soon we never know due to Iran pak become very crucial for US and her allies in mideast. Good times r ahead for Pak US relationship IA.
I like your optimism but am skeptical about the assumptions being made that US will offer all that. They may and if anything is offered to Pakistan it will have strings attached.
 
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PM Imran Khan to meet US President Donald Trump on July 22
July 04, 2019

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Prime Minister Imran Khan to meet US President Donald Trump on July 22. — File photos

Prime Minister Imran Khan will meet United States President Donald Trump on July 22, Foreign Office Spokesperson Dr Mohammad Faisal said on Thursday.

Dr Faisal, during his weekly media briefing, said that the premier will be visiting Washington on the invitation of President Trump. During the premier's visit, the focus will be on further improving the ties between the two countries, added the spokesperson.

This will be Imran Khan's first visit to the US since assuming power last year following PTI's victory in the general elections.

The confirmation of the meeting between the two leaders comes a day after the US State Department on Tuesday designated the Balochistan Liberation Army (BLA) as a global terrorist group, paving the way for similar actions by the United Nations and other states. The same day, it was reported that top 13 leaders of the banned Jamaat Ud Dawa (JuD), including its chief Hafiz Saeed and Naib Emir Abdul Rehman Makki, have been booked in nearly two dozen cases for terror financing and money laundering under the Anti-Terrorism Act, 1997.

The United States, which has pressured Pakistan to crack down on militant groups, has offered a $10 million reward for evidence leading to Saeed's conviction.

Trump-Khan meeting

Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi had told reporters last month that President Trump had invited the prime minister in June but he could not undertake the visit because of the budget session.

The foreign minister had also said that talks between the two leaders would focus on “important regional matters”. Pakistan has helped the United States in jumpstarting the ongoing US-Taliban dialogue.

Earlier on January 3, Trump had told a cabinet meeting that he wanted “to have a great relationship with Pakistan, but they house the enemy, they take care of the enemy".

“We just can’t do that. So, I look forward to meeting with the folks from — and the new leadership in Pakistan, we’ll be doing that in the not-too-distant future,” he had said.

Then in March, Trump had said he hoped to meet Pakistani leaders soon as he acknowledged that relations between the two countries are “now very good”.

“Pakistan — we’ll be meeting with Pakistan [leadership]. I think our relationship right now is very good with Pakistan,” he said.

Islamabad's role in Afghan peace process

Trump was consistent in his criticism of Pakistan after launching his South Asia and Afghanistan strategy in 2017.

In November 2018, a row that began with Trump's interview to Fox News had led to a series of tweets by both the US head of state and Prime Minister Imran.

President Trump, while talking about the reasons for ending the over a billion dollar annual aid for Pakistan at the beginning of 2018, had said the country didn’t do “a damn thing for us”.

Subsequently, Prime Minister Imran had led the sharp reaction by political leaders to Trump’s tirade against Pakistan by hinting at review of foreign policy options and asking the US president to introspect on the real reasons for America’s failure in Afghanistan.

Trump's stance, however, softened the next month with him acknowledging in a letter to the premier that the "war had cost both US and Pakistan".

Trump, in the letter, sought the government’s “assistance and facilitation in achieving a negotiated settlement of the Afghan war”.

The United States now wants Islamabad to use its influence to persuade the Taliban to hold direct talks with the Afghan government.

The militants refuse to talk to Kabul, saying that it’s a “puppet government”, with no real powers.

Last week, Pakistan hosted an intra-Afghan meeting in Bhurban, which was seen as the first step towards making the Afghan government more acceptable to the militants.

Kabul sent its representatives to the meeting, although the Taliban opted to stay out.

On June 27, Afghan President Ashraf Ghani also visited Islamabad to seek its support for opening a communication link to the Taliban.

Diplomatic observers in Washington say that such efforts seem to have convinced the Trump administration that Islamabad is seriously supporting its efforts for a negotiated settlement in Afghanistan.

“Washington feels that a White House visit, at this stage, would further encourage Islamabad to continue supporting the Afghan peace process,” one of the observers said.
New world order???
Or just same orders..new PM??
 
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does Pakistan need America as a friend? Is America of any use to us as history shows they have always backstabbed us.
 
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Thanks for letting me know I stand corrected there is no Indian lobby working in US. From now onwards I will try to assume that.

there is a lobby to preserve and expand relationship with India. it is not driven by Americans of Indian origin

having said there are scores of Congressmen who exploit naive American citizens of Indian and Pakistani ancestry for campaign funds by claiming to stand for better relationship between USA and India/Pakistan. when push comes to shove they will drop India and Pakistan like a hot potato
 
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What Indian lobby ? relations with countries are driven by national interests

A Congress told Mark Zuckerberg on live national channel that it is upto Mark if laws regarding Facebook's regulations are passed. He said that you can go home, spend $10 million on lobbying, or that we can solve it together.

Lobbying is definitely a thing.
 
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A Congress told Mark Zuckerberg on live national channel that it is upto Mark if laws regarding Facebook's regulations are passed. He said that you can go home, spend $10 million on lobbying, or that we can solve it together.

Lobbying is definitely a thing.

the biggest players in the lobbying game are the ones with business interests
 
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Mark my words, after this visit US will offer Pak Cobras and 20+ block 70 Vipers ;)
Thanks for letting me know I stand corrected there is no Indian lobby working in US. From now onwards I will try to assume that.


I like your optimism but am skeptical about the assumptions being made that US will offer all that. They may and if anything is offered to Pakistan it will have strings attached.
We used F16 against India so it means no strings rest except india we have no enemy which has Airforce.
 
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I'll be keenly looking into behavior and gestures of Imran Khan in front of Trump and will than compare it with his behavior with his recent meetings with other head of states and royals.
 
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We used F16them against India so it means no strings rest except india we have no enemy which has Airforce.
By strings I suggested give and take

does Pakistan need America as a friend? Is America of any use to us as history shows they have always backstabbed us.
Certainly Pakistan does not need as an enemy
 
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Afghanistan, though very important issue, Pakistan and IK should not let that dictate the agenda. Its a bilateral meeting and the focus should be Pakistan America relations. Invite Trump in his personal capacity to invest into Pakistan tourism industry.
Afghanistan and Iran will be top on menu let's see how it play out rest strategic dialogue restoration a CSF issue cobras which I believe will release more funding from donors WB and ADB used F16s from Jorden with new ones also upgradtion to AESA yes AMRAAM upgrade as well.
 
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Afghanistan and Iran will be top on menu let's see how it play out rest strategic dialogue restoration a CSF issue cobras which I believe will release more funding from donors WB and ADB used F16s from Jorden with new ones also upgradtion to AESA yes AMRAAM upgrade as well.

We should not I repeat, should not even mention any weapons. The sole focus should be trade and economics. Trump is also focused on trade issues, and we need that as well.

What I do not want to see , is any leniency shown or weak narrative by IK when asked questions by American media. I would like to see a no non sense approach. For example, if someone ask that Pakistan is playing double game in Afghanistan, the response should be, the since we never had terrorism in Pakistan before the occupation of Afghanistan, and we have tracked all terrorist activities back to Afghanistan in which 70k of our citizens perished, shall we take CIA and America eventually responsible for those Pakistani deaths as America is the ultimate custodian power in Afghanistan?
 
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