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PM Dung: Vietnam will stake claim to East Sea islands peacefully

Didn't i tell the truth?

You can't produce an aircraft engine right now, then it makes no different in the next decade, you still can't produce one.
What truth? Viet Nam can't produce a bullet?

Chinese aircraft engine? LOL, you guys are just a bunch of backward peasant who got tech transfer to build the Mig, the Lavi, the Flanker. Without those kind of massive help, you guys are just at the level of Sub-Sahara . For a group of people who outnumbered Vietnamese 16 to 1, there is nothing "magical" about what you can do
 
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They don't need to produce an aircraft engine to dig oil in your backyard and yes to give you bloody nose like 1979

They can enjoy our missiles as well.

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What truth? Viet Nam can't produce a bullet?

Chinese aircraft engine? LOL, you guys are just a bunch of backward peasant who got tech transfer to build the Mig, the Lavi, the Flanker. Without those kind of massive help, you guys are just at the level of Sub-Sahara . For a group of people who outnumbered Vietnamese 16 to 1, there is nothing "magical" about what you can do

lol, our aircraft engine has the best safety record so far.

Most of our crushed aircrafts were equipped with the Russian engine.

Anyway, it doesn't matter, we can bomb Vietnam whenever it suits our plan.
 
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They can enjoy our missiles as well.

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lol, our aircraft engine has the best safety record so far.

Most of our crushed aircrafts were equipped with the Russian engines.

Anyway, it doesn't matter, we can bomb Vietnam whenever it suits our plan.

In coming years India will take care of that for our Viet brothers.
 
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Come on people use common sense, neither china or vietnam is gonna fight over for those islands

Firstly, it will ruin china's image

Secondly, vietnam is strong enough, imo, to hold off the chinese but their country will be in shambles. It will not be worth it to destroy your country for the islands

Lastly, vietnam are china are close economic partners

IMO, this issue will continue on for a long time or both the countries will have to share the islands, like kashmir issue. However, it wont result in war
 
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They can enjoy our missiles as well.

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lol, our aircraft engine has the best safety record so far.

Most of our crushed aircrafts were equipped with the Russian engine.

Anyway, it doesn't matter, we can bomb Vietnam whenever it suits our plan.
Big talk and no action again? Why don't you go ahead and try to kick our as s (if you can't) . Meanwhile, we're keep sending hordes of our fishermen into your territory and fish you dry and keep your coast guards soaking up their fuel trying to catch us 24/7 heh.
 
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Big talk and no action again? Why don't you go ahead and try to kick our as s (if you can't) . Meanwhile, we're keep sending hordes of our fishermen into your territory and fish you dry and keep your coast guards soaking up their fuel trying to catch us 24/7 heh.

Do you have any action so far?

All i can see is a bunch of crybabies surrounding our embassy.
 
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Vietnam is actually already in China's hands economically.their economy has to live on China to survive.

Most of Vietnam’s major projects in Chinese hands8/7/2010 17:40

Chinese's predominant role in many of Vietnam’s major projects is sparking concerns among national officials.

Up to 90 percent of Vietnam’s Engineering - Procurement -Construction (EPC) projects are in the hands of Chinese contractors, said Pham Thi Loan of the National Assembly’s Finance and Budgets Committee, at a conference held Friday in Hanoi.

EPC contractors draft designs, procure necessary materials and oversee construction of an entire project. They are entitled to bring in their own labor force or subcontract work to Vietnamese firms.

Most of these projects pertain to oil and gas, chemicals, power, and textiles, Loan said at the conference.

Up to 30 Chinese companies have secured contracts for the country’s major projects, including energy deals worth of billions of dollars, according to VNExpress.

Vietnam will continue to invest in huge development projects, but “if Chinese companies continue to control major energy contracts, the nation's energy security will remain very disconcerting,” Loan was quoted as saying.

Economics expert Bui Kien Thanh attributes the dominance of Chinese contractors to complex bidding specifications. The large projects often require bidders to meet international standards. At the moment, he says very few Vietnamese companies are eligable for these jobs.

Thanh added that Vietnamese companies are rarely sub-contracted by the Chinese firms who are known for importing labor and materials.

Other experts have expressed concern that local manufacturers and laborers have not been given preference, leaving the door wide open for foreign companies to seek government business.

The experts alleged that a reliance on foreign contractors has put Vietnam at risk of adding to its trade deficit, which was the nation's biggest economic bugaboo this year.

According to the General Statistics Office, Vietnam’s trade deficit stood at US$7.4 billion over the past seven months, accounting for 19.4 percent of export turnover.

Last month the trade deficit reached $1.15 billion (or 19.8 percent of export turnover). The government, meanwhile, has previously expressed an interest in keeping that figure below 20 percent, VnExpress said.
 
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Vietnam: Under the weight of China

Vietnam: Under the weight of ChinaAugust 27th, 2011

Author: Le Hong Hiep, Vietnam National University

The analogy highlights the strategic importance of Vietnam toward China, especially in terms of security, while also suggesting that Vietnam must live under China’s weight. Vietnam is therefore, in Carlyle Thayer’s words, condemned to a ‘tyranny of geography’ where it has no choice but to learn to share its destiny with neighbouring China.This threat posed by China toward Vietnam comes not only from geographical proximity but also the asymmetry of size and power between the two countries. China is 29 times larger than Vietnam, while Vietnam’s population, despite being the world’s 14th largest, is still only equivalent to one of China’s mid-sized provinces.

Vietnam’s impressive economic performance since the late 1980s hasn’t allowed it to close the gap in strength. This is because China’s own economic modernisation has caused the power gap between the two countries to become ever wider. According to World Bank data, China’s GDP expanded more than 16 times between 1985 and 2009 from US$307 billion to US$4.985 trillion. Vietnam’s GDP increased only seven times over the same period, from US$16 billion in 1985 to US$97 billion in 2009.With its economic development, China’s military might has grown significantly, posing a formidable threat to Vietnam’s security. According to China’s official statements, its military budget for 2011 is US$91.5 billion, while Vietnam is said to have allocated US$2.6 billion. Particularly worrying for Vietnam is that China’s expanding military budget is concentrated on its air force and navy, strengthening China’s capacity to project power into the South China Sea where China and Vietnam have competing claims.

Vietnam’s transformation toward an open market economy also adds another aspect to this tyranny of geography: increased economic vulnerability.Since Vietnam resumed trade with China in the late 1980s, its domestic production has long been threatened by Chinese goods — flooding the country through both formal and informal (smuggling) trade.

Another vulnerability is Vietnam’s perennial trade deficit with China, amounting to US$5.4 billion out of the country’s total trade deficit of US$7.5 billion in the first half of 2011. China has also emerged as Vietnam’s largest source of imports, accounting for almost a quarter of its import turnover in 2010. Vietnam is heavily dependent on China for input materials for some of its major export industries, while Vietnam’s exports to China are just a minuscule portion of China’s total imports. Should China discontinue trade with Vietnam for some reason, the damage to Vietnam’s economy would be immense.Another concern is that Chinese companies have won up to 90 per cent of EPC (engineering, procurement and construction) contracts for Vietnam’s major industrial projects, especially those of coal-fired power plants. Chinese contractors are favoured as they offer cheap technology and promise to help arrange financial funding from Chinese banks.
 
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Vietnam is actually already in China's hands economically.their economy has to live on China to survive.

No one let you china do that, why such chinese guys like you is very, very idiot or uneducated to believe what propagandists are talking to chinese people in china.

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Vietnam: Under the weight of China

At least two time you posted it.
I's meaningless.
 
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only facts and figures,no claiming of which one is the winner,you judge it yourself.
Dude, those PLA troop stationed along China's borders with the USSR didn't have better weapons and radars than those PLA troop along VN-Sino border.

We only need 3-4 CBU-55 to wipe off 1.5 million Chinese troops with poorly equiped :smokin:
 
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I dont know about that treaty ,but everyone knows China's claim is always the whole south China sea.

Why not the whole world? I fail to see why Chinese cannot see the absurdity of the claim. At no point in History did any country have a maritime border but for the last century. Now How can China claim all of South China sea in the international forum with not an iota to support its claim. China should behave a little more matured as it is no longer a small player in the world. High time it looks at its claim and get rid of the ludicrousness and claim something more reasonable.

US became a great power because it had no big issues with any of its immediate neighbors. On the other hand China has India, Taiwan, Japan, Russia and Vietnam with whom they have a bad history. China for their own good can do with a few good friends in the neighborhood apart from states that rank in the top 20 failed states.

:cheers:
 
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Funny, you can't even overhaul these junks without the help from Russia.

Vietnam received 20 Su-30MK2 year can match the Chinese navy Su-30 « Military of China, force comment.

How these junks can be sustained in a real coming war?
These 'junk' can be ovehaul in VN with Russia help :cool:
Vietnam Air Force is equipped with one of the most modern aircraft Su-27/30 in the ASEAN region.

Su-30MK2 is a modern combat aircraft in the Air Force personnel in Vietnam.

"We are considering opening the Sukhoi maintenance center in Vietnam, and this issue is being negotiated," Kanwa leading industry sources said Russian defense industry.

Vietnam has experienced the use of combat aircraft Su-27SK and has a long history of exploitation of Su-22 aircraft, so the establishment of a center's service in Vietnam Sukhoi is not a problem important, "the source said. Normally, the aircraft Sukhoi Su-30MK2 will be one year warranty, magazine Kanwa said.
http://www.defence.pk/forums/milita...-s-army-turn-into-regular-elite-force-10.html
 
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Dude, those PLA troop stationed along China's borders with the USSR didn't have better weapons and radars than those PLA troop along VN-Sino border.

We only need 3-4 CBU-55 to wipe off 1.5 million Chinese troops with poorly equiped :smokin:

OK, but we're still throwing your sailors into the ocean and we're still occupying the Parcels and we still own your mountains.

We await your CBU-55, until then, we still own you, literally.
 
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In coming years India will take care of that for our Viet brothers.

India itself needs assistance from others, why are you talking about India take care of others? First take care of yourself, than worry about take care of others. Otherwise, you will fail so miserably and be a laughing stock. A country cannot help others when you cannot even do it themselves.
 
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