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20 years lead seems a lot, yet in fact it boils down to only a small cluster of key tech which is not that hard to catch up for a country like China that is in her exponential growth trajectory.
On the other hand, the fact that U.S. is fastly dumbing down on IQ front will make it certain that it will become a white-minority society by 2046 – mere 30 odd years from now during which American average IQ would drop to about 95 from current 98.
This “tiny” 3-point IQ drop due to the demographic change will nonetheless have a HUGE impact on numerous fronts including military.
That means the current American percentage of IQ >120 would drop to only 4.8 from current 7.1 in the mean time!
In light of the fact that it takes about 90 IQ to just maintain an advanced Western society. 95 IQ would appear, well honestly speaking, pathetic for robust military innovations down the pipe. In contrast, China’s roughly 105 would have 10 points advantage, so commanding that it could be decisive in most cases.
This is even before “Affirmative Action” kicking in when most “empowered” Gonzales, Patels, da Silvas and Fulanis who occupy numerous American high/mid/low military command posts unmatched by their competence levels would further reduce its military advantages, particularly in key areas of effective strategy planning, logistics, discipline and frontline fighting … that means in the near future, the US will have less chances to perform a brillant war from A to Z like 1991 Iraq War, despite its relatively more advanced hardware.
Recent military experiences helps, yet against vastly inferior opponents, not much, as what's point to let Usain Bolt run more high school level finals for "practice" except burning him down?
Furthermore, the said experiences will become much less meaningful when serve against quasi-statue quo opponents such as China.
As long as China doesn’t do extraordinary stupid things to keep its corruption and economy in check, it will trump the U.S. in most major conflicts ( hypothetically speaking) in about 30 years time, with recent battle experiences or not.
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Another nonsense Chinese IQ this and that
Another nonsense Chinese IQ this and that
Speeder 2 raises a lot of interesting and valid points that make for an interesting discussion. But Indian trolls would rather talk about India to do XX by 20YY. The most pointless posts ever like Russian Yakhont (Brahmos) to capture XX% of world from
ZERO today.
The highest IQ Americans don't serve. Jewish-Anerican participation in the US military is next to zero (not counting the chicken hawks like Perle, Wolfowitz, etc. screaming for war all the time.)
You have my sympathies, really, but if you abuse yourself by hitting a wall in such a brutal manner whenever encountering something beyond the reach of your maxi. comprehension, my dear poor fellow, I fear that what’s inside may drop to the level of 70s in no time.
Says who? Lame argument. In 30 years time you may probably be just where the US of A is today. In 30 years the U.S isn't going to stagnate waiting for the world to catch up!As long as China doesn't do extraordinary stupid things, it will trump the U.S. in most major conflicts ( hypothetically speaking) in about 30 years time, with recent battle experiences or not.
Says who? Lame argument. In 30 years time you may probably be just where the US of A is today. In 30 years the U.S isn't going to stagnate waiting for the world to catch up!
And heck, you seem oblivious to the U.S top secret military programs being undertaken by their Black Projects which as a U.S medic who was once privy to what's going on there, said that the black military projects are so far ahead that it would seem to most that the technology is akin to what you see in 'Star Trek'!! Their technology is at least 100 years ahead of mainstream science! (If you want more details, let me know).
So there! Don't be too uppity that China would be at par with the US of A in 20 or 30 years time. You can never catch up! It's impossible!
You don't have to worry about my comprehension. I know where I stand. Posting such racial things...certainly is not a great IQ...growup
On the other hand, the fact that U.S. is fastly dumbing down on IQ front will make it certain that it will become a white-minority society by 2046 – mere 30 odd years from now during which American average IQ would drop to about 95 from current 98.
This is even before “Affirmative Action” kicking in when most “empowered” Gonzales, Patels, da Silvas and Fulanis who occupy numerous American high/mid/low military command posts unmatched by their competence levels would further reduce its military advantages, particularly in key areas of effective strategy planning, logistics, discipline and frontline fighting … that means in the near future, the US will have less chances to perform a brillant war from A to Z like 1991 Iraq War, despite its relatively more advanced hardware.
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20 years lead seems a lot, yet in fact it boils down to only a small cluster of key tech which is not that hard to catch up for a country like China that is in her exponential growth trajectory.
On the other hand, the fact that U.S. is fastly dumbing down on IQ front will make it certain that it will become a white-minority society by 2046 mere 30 odd years from now during which American average IQ would drop to about 95 from current 98.
This tiny 3-point IQ drop due to the demographic change will nonetheless have a HUGE impact on numerous fronts including military.
That means the current American percentage of IQ >120 would drop to only 4.8 from current 7.1 in the mean time!
In light of the fact that it takes about 90 IQ to just maintain an advanced Western society. 95 IQ would appear, well honestly speaking, pathetic for robust military innovations down the pipe. In contrast, Chinas roughly 105 would have 10 points advantage, so commanding that it could be decisive in most cases.
This is even before Affirmative Action kicking in when most empowered Gonzales, Patels, da Silvas and Fulanis who occupy numerous American high/mid/low military command posts unmatched by their competence levels would further reduce its military advantages, particularly in key areas of effective strategy planning, logistics, discipline and frontline fighting that means in the near future, the US will have less chances to perform a brillant war from A to Z like 1991 Iraq War, despite its relatively more advanced hardware.
Recent military experiences helps, yet against vastly inferior opponents, not much, as what's point to let Usain Bolt run more high school level finals for "practice" except burning him down?
Furthermore, the said experiences will become much less meaningful when serve against quasi-statue quo opponents such as China.
As long as China doesnt do extraordinary stupid things to keep its corruption and economy in check, it will trump the U.S. in most major conflicts ( hypothetically speaking) in about 30 years time, with recent battle experiences or not.
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Are you saying that white people are the superior race over others in America. Even over yourself?
Where to begin. Even countries that score low in IQ will have people of high intelligence and high IQ's occupy top positions such as doctors, teachers, engineers...ect. Which bring us back to the subject at hand, even if a country such as the US has a drop in national IQ due to, perhaps, an influx of immigrants that have poor language skills and thus do not choose to peruse higher education it does not mean the military will be effected or that the people in question are mentally deficient.
If we, for instance, look at the designers of weapons systems we will see that they are all intelligent and educated individuals, obviously the people that score low on IQ tests are not going to be the people that work for Lockheed, General electric or Boeing. With a population of over 300 millions and some of the top schools in the world, not to mention the sheer number of schools the top defense contractors will have no problems finding qualified people to come work for them.
Even countries such as Israel with an IQ of 94 and a small population produce world class technology both civil and military, and have defeated multiple Arab armies while attacked simultaneously--and the reason for this is? Surely by your logic this is not possible yet it is reality.
even people that man weapons systems have to pass training and certifications, often times there is even minimum education qualifications involved. Pilots, for instance, have to have a minimum of a Bachelors and the competition is tough, even someone with a PHD will not be guaranteed that they will beat out someone with a Bachelors or that they will pass basic training. Many other positions that are less competitive still require a high amount of intelligence. Further, you may have someone of average or even slightly bellow average IQ stare at computer screen all day listening for echoes but because that is their specialty they are extremely proficient at what they do.
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Well, where to begin? What’s the impact of global tempreture rising by a tiny “neglectable” 1 degree? I’am sure global warmists could lecture you the consecuences of that non-stop for an entire month just for a starter. Surely on average 1 degree rise doesn’t reflect the reality that many, I mean many many, places in the world could be actually unchanged or even colder, just as if even the US could still keep on producing and attracting many top talents. Regardless, the average matters a lot :
no country sends her best weapon desinger into a war
average soilders using average weapon in their average formations/battle plans, and hardware is only one of many factors that affect the outcome of a war.
In fact if weapon design capability is the only, or even the leading, factor, then Papua New Guinea or Congo perhaps could become the new King of Warfair if they manage to acquire some top line weapon designs with a full bag or two of diamonds.
This is because you somewhow overlook the domino impact since society is a “chain” rather than disconnected “dots” like what your numerous “scenarios” illustrated. One needs not only top line weapon designers whom the US probably won’t lack, but also top line sub contractors, sub sub contractors (for even the nails ), together with military planners and funtionaries at all levels … -- an entire value chain. whenever one (or more dots ) is inferior/wrong, the whole chain gets affected. The concept of “average” ( being IQ, achievement, education level, or being discipline, attitude, etc., or whatever) precisely measures the likelyhood that some particular dot ( or many dots) would likely to go wrong vis-à-vis the opponent hence it handily serves as a general yet quite accurate indicator of what is going on with the full picture.
True, if you search harder enough , you could almost definately find some or even many with IQ>140 in populous places like India, Indonesia or Negeria, let alone the US. But does that matter? What’s your point?
Surely I “may have someone of average or even slightly bellow average IQ stare at computer screen all day listening for echoes but because that is their specialty they are extremely proficient at what they do”, but what if one has a higher IQ guy ( or freaking eight of them! ) with better training sitting in the same chair? The whole point is about comparison.