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The Philippines is “very close” to completing an agreement to boost the number of U.S. troops allowed into the country at a time of growing tension over territorial disputes with China, President Benigno Aquino said.

“I haven’t been presented major sticking points, so I assume we are close to it,” Aquino, 54, said yesterday in an interview at his office in Manila. “I won’t say that we’re a day away from it, but we’re very, very close.”

Officials from the Philippines and the U.S. plan a sixth round of talks in early March, after discussions hit a snag last year on issues of access and control over facilities that may be built by the U.S. “They’re still crafting the exact language as to how to address that, but we do recognize, we do need facilities to be able to enhance ours and their abilities,” Aquino said.

The Philippines is locked in a dispute with China over territory in the resource-rich South China Sea, which has led to tit-for-tat comments in recent months even as economic ties remain strong. The tensions have spurred the Philippines to seek to expand military links with the U.S., a treaty ally, while building a further buffer by strengthening strategic ties with countries such as Japan.

Negotiators may seek to wrap up an agreement before U.S. President Barack Obama visits the Philippines in April as part of a trip to the region that also takes in Japan. The rapid U.S. response after Super Typhoon Haiyan, which struck the central Philippines in November, also showed the need for a greater troop presence, Foreign Affairs Secretary Albert del Rosario said that month.

Subic Bay

The U.S. ended its permanent military presence in the Philippines with the closing of the Subic Bay base after the lease ended in 1991. The U.S. rotates 500 troops into the southern Philippines each year to aid in counter-terrorism operations, while 6,500 come annually for exercises, said Lieutenant Colonel Ramon Zagala, a spokesman for the Philippine military.

Under the current negotiations, the Philippines may give the U.S. access to bases including Subic Bay, Defense Secretary Voltaire Gazmin said in August.

Aquino in the interview sought to couch relations as not being “we are against China,” while calling for consistency from Beijing on its policies in the region. “Stability promotes trade and creates a bigger market for everybody, which enhances the ability to prosper,” he said.

UN Arbitration

The Philippines also needed to chart its own foreign policy without being dependent on other countries to solve its problems, he said. Manila has sought arbitration by the United Nations on the dueling claims in the South China Sea, a process China has said it does not recognize.

“This is our problem, we are primarily responsible for it,” Aquino said of the dispute. “Nobody will champion our rights if we are not able to champion our rights first.”

Aquino in an interview with the New York Times published Feb. 5 sought global support to defend territory in the South China Sea from China, drawing a parallel with the West’s failure to backCzechoslovakia against Adolf Hitler’s demands for the Sudetenland in 1938.

The official Xinhua News Agency said in a commentary response that Aquino was ignorant to compare China to Nazi Germany, while the commander of U.S. air forces in the Pacific, General Herbert “Hawk” Carlisle, said in an interview on Feb. 9 that Aquino’s comments were “not helpful.”

Air Zone

“Aquino is looked at as the point man of American foreign policy,” said Benito Lim, a political science professor at the Ateneo de Manila University. “The Philippines believes that if we take a tough stand versus China, America will support us, but clearly the U.S. is saying the China issue should be settled in a peaceful way,” Lim said today by phone.

Aquino echoed other Southeast Asian officials in warning China not to seek to replicate in the South China Sea the air defense identification zone it announced in November over territory in the East China Sea also claimed by Japan.

“That shouldn’t be a unilateral thing, it does affect so many other countries,” he said yesterday. “That doesn’t help, and hopefully the Chinese leadership also sees that.”

On Feb. 1, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei dismissed as “speculation” a report by Japanese newspaper Asahi that China also plans a South China Sea air zone.

Conduct Code

China agreed last July at an Association of Southeast Asian Nations-hosted forum in Brunei to work toward rules to avoid conflict in the waters. Still, there has not been major progress on developing a code of conduct, and China introduced fishing rules in January requiring foreign vessels to seek permission before entering waters off its southern coast.

The Philippines is awaiting the start of formal talks on the code of conduct, Aquino said. “I would like to think the collective effort is pushing the formulation of this code,” he said.

The South China Sea is also claimed in part by countries such as Vietnam, Malaysia and Brunei, and includes some of the world’s busiest shipping lanes. Vietnam and the Philippines reject China’s map of the waters as a basis for joint development of oil and gas, a solution pushed by China.

Philippines Near Pact to Increase U.S. Troops, Aquino Says - Bloomberg
 
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Air defense zone, who can establish it? What are the guide lines? It's not regulated, there is no treaty, there are no rules, the US invented it, they are enforcing it, but they are not making it official rule where every country gets one.

China setup the zone, why did China do that? Only the US and allies have it, did China think the US would obey it? Did China think it would solve the issue? No way China thought that, then why?

Well, this brings me to my first point, there are no clear rules regarding this, essentially it's just a line a a map, it doesn't mean crap.

Chinese defense zone establishes this fact, the US flying into the zone is the same as flying into a trap, because what it's really saying is, these zones are worthless and means nothing.

The US just made their zones meaningless, for our zones are established the exact same way as the US did, and under the exact conditions the US used, so if ours is invalid, then so are theirs.

This won't mean much now, but as our air force matures, with introduction of fifth gen fighters, large number of 4++ fighters, semi stealth anti ship fighters, strategic transport, AEW, large air refueling aircraft, and electronic warfare planes, and more, we will fly into your zones and make all zones in Asia irrelevant, as we can point to US actions, except this time we will back it up with our air force.


The Americans think they got us by the balls, but it is China that has the initiative.
 
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The only opponents of China in Asia are Phillipines, South Korea, Japan, Taiwan. All the rest are neutral or allies of China. :oops:
 
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The only opponents of China in Asia are Phillipines, South Korea, Japan, Taiwan. All the rest are neutral or allies of China. :oops:

Remove Taiwan and add Vietnam. Taiwan is highly relying on China now.
 
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Go ahead you d bag what are you waiting for if the Philippines is to be like Poland or USSR in world war two so be it at less we bring this chinese neo nazi to the light for all to see
 
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CHina can handle japan, philippines, and vietnam. NK can take care of Sk

NK can't handle SK with about 20,000 American personnel backing them up. And since China has failed to take on Vietnam and hasn't fought since that fiasco decades ago, I very much doubt it can take on multiple countries at the same time.
 
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NK can't handle SK with about 20,000 American personnel backing them up. And since China has failed to take on Vietnam and hasn't fought since that fiasco decades ago, I very much doubt it can take on multiple countries at the same time.

We kicked your Yankee *** out of North Korea in the Korean War.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Bahahahahahahaha
 
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Sorry Taiwan is at the forefront of helping the US spy on China in a big way
Taiwan's BMD Radar Gives Unique Data on China | Defense News | defensenews.com

The US has almost all of China's airspace under constant survelilance.

It's under surveillance, you made the wrong spelling, please sir. Okay, fine, so what? Check out the map and find out how close we are, when our missile hit their radar, does surveillance make any sense?

My point actually is China fully control Taiwan's economy, both Taiwan and HK benefit a lot from China's resources since 1978. The trade balance between China and TW exceeded almost 200 billion $$$, and more interesting thing is Taiwan is on a trade surplus of nearly 100 billion US dollars....More than 1.5 million Taiwan businessmen live in China, it could be more if count their families in and please also note the population of Taiwan is just 200 billion.

Spy spy spy...if it really works, how could the chairman of KMT travel such a long distance to Beijing to meet President Xi, a few days ago? For begging or for spying? I don't care even a little bit about Taiwan, we are just doing Taiwan a favor, for the sake of same race. Do you think Taiwan is more rely on USA or China then?

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Still under negotiation? I wonder what Philippines has to give?

History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme.

After Second World War, during the cold war, South Vietnam played the lackey pawn and grabbed many islands in South China Sea.

Well, South Vietnam doesn't exist anymore.
 
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Phil. just adding more coal or gasoline into the fire
 
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The trade balance between China and TW exceeded almost 200 billion $$$, and more interesting thing is Taiwan is on a trade surplus of nearly 100 billion US dollars.
Let's start out by correcting your sentence to "and a more interesting". You have made several grammatical errors in your post. I can point out the others too if you wish.

If you want to start things off by being petty about my typing skills (and others) we can run all your posts through a microscope and put you in your place. So stop being a wise@ss and skip the irrelevant jabs.

As for how well China and Taiwan are getting along...
China Rejects Xi Meeting With Taiwan President Ma at APEC - Bloomberg

The man pictured in your post is just an "honorary" chairman of the KMT.
You know full well who is the real chairman. If you do not you are completely clueless.
Ma Ying-jeou - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"He is also the current Chairman of the Kuomintang (KMT)"
 
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Good, Chinese fisher men must beware of Phil. coast guard from now :laugh:

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