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Philippine Air Force in Bad Shape: Spokesman (Can India Help)

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MANILA - More than three-quarters of Philippine military aircraft are not fit to fly - hampering the country's ability to protect its airspace and territorial waters, the air force said on Sept. 10.

Air force spokesman Miguel Ernesto Okol said the military fleet was in dire straits, backing up a 2010 government audit that found only 91 of the 393 aircraft were "full mission capable".

"Our last fighter planes were decommissioned in 2005," Okol told AFP, referring to five 40-year-old F5 jets that were purchased from the United States, a military ally, in 1965.

He said the 17,000-member air force had only one C-5 military transport aircraft, until two more are acquired later this year or in 2012.

Okol said the air force is dependent on aging, U.S.-made OV-10 planes to patrol the country's vast territorial waters, including disputed South China Sea areas claimed by several other countries.

"Considering this abject state of its air assets, which are mostly aging, the Philippine Air Force is ill equipped to be operationally responsive to national security," said the report released by the Commission on Audit (COA).

Okol said the air force would use the report to "bolster our request for a capability upgrade."

The Philippines this year acquired one Hamilton-class cutter, a decommissioned U.S. Coast Guard vessel, to boost its South China Sea patrols in areas also claimed by China, Brunei, Malaysia, Taiwan and Vietnam.

On Sept. 7, it also announced a 4.95 billion-peso ($118 million) purchase of a navy patrol vessel, six helicopters, and other equipment to defend its South China Sea territories, believed to hold vast oil and gas deposits.

Tensions in the area, for decades considered a military flash point, spiked again this year after the Philippines and Vietnam said that China had become increasingly aggressive in staking its claims to the territories.

During a visit to Beijing last week, Philippine President Benigno Aquino and his Chinese counterpart Hu Jintao committed themselves to solving the dispute peacefully, but Manila has also insisted it will not back down against Chinese aggression.

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How can India help in these matters ? IAF itself is facing a shortage of aircrafts ... It is well below the sanctioned strength devised earlier ... The best it can do is to gift those old Mig 21's
 
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First of all I am sorry for changing the title. I have added (Can India Help).

I am not trying to eye Chinese through Philippines. However, we have a good friend there as VIETNAM why not getting another friend in that region. We have recently given some non leather equipment to Nepal, why can't we have Philippines?

In my opinion, we should provide them non leather equipment and training to there military personal. They have a huge gap in there navy why not giving them some older ships which are decommissioned or near decommissioned age from IN. We have lot of private sector ship builders coming up and they might get some orders from Philippines Navy. You never know, we might get some request for something else as well.

I would again repeat, I am not in favor of Philippines is for India as Pakistan is for China.

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How can India help in these matters ? IAF itself is facing a shortage of aircrafts ... It is well below the sanctioned strength devised earlier ... The best it can do is to gift those old Mig 21's

Hi Buddy,

I would agree with your point. Why not helping them with that. We are really shot of sanctioned strength and I don't think 10 Mig 21's would make any difference. However, We should not stop there.

We can provide them with below equipments

Non leather equipments.
IN older/decommissioned ships.
Dornier Aircraft's
Couple of HAL Dhruv(With new engine)
Older tanks which are kept in reserve
thinking out of the box - Why not giving them some Tejas Mark I after FOC.

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right now we could sell them ships for patrolling in the SCS like the Car Nicobar Bangaram etc off shore patrol vessels perhaps some old Indian navy frigates like the INS vindhyagiri or we could build them destroyers frigates and other indigenous ships if they pay us for it and if gov't is okay with it

in terms of aircraft we really cannot do anything for them right now in the future however we could sell them LCAMK2 fighters when they are equipped with the Kaveri engines and sell them MTA transport aircraft Dhruv LCH or LUH helicopters is another option UAV's like Rustom Nishant and Lakshya perhaps trainers like HJT-36 some DRDO awacs etc just to name a few however the sale of these indigenous equipment needs to be cleared by gov't who at the moment seems to be appeasing the Chinese.. god i really hate these UPA/Congress mofo's in our gov't
 
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Hi Buddy,

I would agree with your point. Why not helping them with that. We are really shot of sanctioned strength and I don't think 10 Mig 21's would make any difference. However, We should not stop there.

We can provide them with below equipments

Non leather equipments.
IN older/decommissioned ships.
Dornier Aircraft's
Couple of HAL Dhruv(With new engine)
Older tanks which are kept in reserve
thinking out of the box - Why not giving them some Tejas Mark I after FOC.

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I agree with you. We never know we might create a customer for our future military equipment in that region.

Cheers...Sure India Should Help!!!:yahoo:
 
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The best we could do is, offer them a Joint venture, build an aerospace infrastructure in assistance with HAL in Philippines. Establish supply lines and market the product in that region... Indian production lines are full till 2025 and at this moment India cannot offer any assistance.
 
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Good opportunity for India to strengthen them , perhaps we can donate some Tejas fighters and Migs :tup:
 
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How can India help in these matters ? IAF itself is facing a shortage of aircrafts ... It is well below the sanctioned strength devised earlier ... The best it can do is to gift those old Mig 21's

That would be a great way of making another enemy. :lol:
 
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^ actually if LCA got int'l orders it would help keep production lines open and the MK2 version will be a 4.5 gen fighter with some 5th gen capabilities it will sell at a much lower price with the same capability as other good 4.5 gen fighters we could seriously make a lot of money from exporting LCA MK2's in fact i saw a post on livefist that the gov't told HAL to develop LCAMK2 with export in mind
 
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How?? Do we have the production line strong enough to meet there demands in addition to ours?

First we get the FOC which is scheduled in 2012 or early 2013 , we establish our own squadrons of MK 2 aircraft and then I suppose when large scale production begins , we would want to showcase this product for sale to as many neutral countries as we can to earn revenue. Its not unthinkable to use this weapon or a customized version of it for sale/donation to gain goodwill or forge strategic alliances in the Asia-Pacific region especially.

We already did it with the Druv Helis too.

After all the time we 've taken to develop it , the Tejas is quite comparable to any other lightweight 4++ fighter around the world .

Once production starts costs normally decrease. As far as setting up infrastructure is concerned that is yet to be seen.
 
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Unless there is reuest from PAF , how can India help ? Moreover thy will prefer US to India as their AF is US supplied, trained.
 
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