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PEMRA Sends Notice to BOL Over Hamza Ali Abbasi’s ‘Anti-Pakistan’ Remarks

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Not a statement or condemnation. Usually delivered though press brief of Foreign office. You guys have some zakaria there.

He is the new minister (and former defense minister) so I think this scapegoat will do.
Don't want to derail thread but anyway

At least we condemn it where as India is not even ready to accept this genocide so really it is highest level of hypocrisy when Indians are asking others to condemn and help them while you yourself are helping genocidal gov.
India refuses to join declaration against Myanmar at international meet
 
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Don't want to derail thread but anyway

At least we condemn it where as India is not even ready to accept this genocide so really it is highest level of hypocrisy when Indians are asking others to condemn and help them while you yourself are helping genocidal gov.
India refuses to join declaration against Myanmar at international meet
I totally agree and we should not.

Most importantly, Our PM is there so it will be the most inappropriate for us to do. As you like to compare, India is not pakistan. When your PM signed the "Ufa declaration", they couldn't even wait to criticise him.

Secondly, Indian are not high on the Muslim Ummah colaid. Again, you drink you enjoy.

As far as rohingyas are concerned, we are concerned for them. They are in our blessings and prayers; no more or less than
Balochs but not on our land.
 
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Offcourse, an open advocate of "secular" Pakistan and a self described liberal like yourself will agree with "Jan Achakzai", deride the concept of Islamic ummah, and would call Hamza Ali Abbasi bad names.

How predictable :)

Whether you like it or not, we are a part of a global Islamic ummah. I know you secularists hate this fact but sorry, that's how it is. We feel the pain when our Muslim brothers are in pain..whether in Palestine or Myanmar. Yes, we should put our national interests first but it does not mean that we are not a part of Muslim nationhood worldwide.

Muslim world is like a big family. In your family, your father puts the interest of his family/kids first and foremost--but it does not mean that he is no longer connected to his brothers and parents etc. Similarly, Pakistan should take care of itself and its interests first--but that does not cut us away from our Islamic brotherhood for Islamic peoples across the globe.

You wanna be western slaves can go fu*k yourself

Idea of ummah is against ideology of Pakistan.
 
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What a fool Hamza is i thought of him as a mature person but he's just another emotional fool Jan achakzai is absolutely right we're not thekedars of the whole "MUSLIMS UMMAH" we already have nearly million of them our own pop is exploding our own people are dying because of hunger and thirst and this person who is a host is behaving like an emotional fool it's time we think rationally for god sakes kbhi Pakistan aur Pakistanio ko bhi first priority de do he should f off to some other country if he thinks our nationality isn't worth anything bloody idiot.

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Watch from 36:00


I thought BOL was supposed to be a pro Pakistan channel huh what a joke.
Thanks for mentioning. I haven't seen the video as I'm currently at work but will check it out when I'm free and will give you my feedback.
 
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Offcourse, an open advocate of "secular" Pakistan and a self described liberal like yourself will agree with "Jan Achakzai", deride the concept of Islamic ummah, and would call Hamza Ali Abbasi bad names.

How predictable :)

Whether you like it or not, we are a part of a global Islamic ummah. I know you secularists hate this fact but sorry, that's how it is. We feel the pain when our Muslim brothers are in pain..whether in Palestine or Myanmar. Yes, we should put our national interests first but it does not mean that we are not a part of Muslim nationhood worldwide.

Muslim world is like a big family. In your family, your father puts the interest of his family/kids first and foremost--but it does not mean that he is no longer connected to his brothers and parents etc. Similarly, Pakistan should take care of itself and its interests first--but that does not cut us away from our Islamic brotherhood for Islamic peoples across the globe.

You wanna be western slaves can go ... yourself

Ummah is a fantasy and delusion for people like him. I wonder what people like him would say when they read Ummah in The Holy Quran and the Hadith. Must be 'stories of the ancient'!

Sad really!
 
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Offcourse, an open advocate of "secular" Pakistan and a self described liberal like yourself will agree with "Jan Achakzai", deride the concept of Islamic ummah, and would call Hamza Ali Abbasi bad names.

How predictable :)

Whether you like it or not, we are a part of a global Islamic ummah. I know you secularists hate this fact but sorry, that's how it is. We feel the pain when our Muslim brothers are in pain..whether in Palestine or Myanmar. Yes, we should put our national interests first but it does not mean that we are not a part of Muslim nationhood worldwide.

Muslim world is like a big family. In your family, your father puts the interest of his family/kids first and foremost--but it does not mean that he is no longer connected to his brothers and parents etc. Similarly, Pakistan should take care of itself and its interests first--but that does not cut us away from our Islamic brotherhood for Islamic peoples across the globe.

You wanna be western slaves can go fu*k yourself

Like you i used to believe in this Ummah concept when i was very young. But now i have realized there is no such thing and Muslim world being a big family is a big joke. Just to prove my point, go ask a Saudi or Kuwati or Qatari etc etc for his daughters hand? He will show you the real meaning of Ummah
 
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Ummah is a fantasy and delusion for people like him. I wonder what people like him would say when they read Ummah in The Holy Quran and the Hadith. Must be 'stories of the ancient'!

Sad really!

There is a reason you don't take quran and hadis literally.
 
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I dont think he said anything wrong, when he was talking there was pain in his voice that oozed with sincerity and conviction, i think we need to shun those hypocrittes who always say the right things for public appeasement yet carry other agendas within. I would trade one harsh sincere critic over a million do gooder hypocrittes like amir liaquat any day....

There is a reason you don't take quran and hadis literally.
I've heard some pretty stupid things in my time mate yet u easily take the cake....

Idea of ummah is against ideology of Pakistan.
Molvi sahib fatway kam diya karen aur daleel zyada, log ap ke bat behtar smjh saken ge...
 
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Regarding the issue of Rohingiyas. If we grant them Pakistani Citizenship then we would have to do the same for the Afghans that have been living here for more than 3 decades. Will have to do the same for all the Bengalis, Somalis, Uzbeks etc etc, so where will it stop.

I don't really have a solution but in my opinion if they are already here, they should be given a refugee ID and allowed to get jobs and make a living. And when peace is restored in their country they can go back.
 
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There is a reason you don't take quran and hadis literally.

OK then, go ahead ... commit shirk, murder, zinnah, slander, etc etc ... not to be taken literally right! :rolleyes1:
 
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Regarding the issue of Rohingiyas. If we grant them Pakistani Citizenship then we would have to do the same for the Afghans that have been living here for more than 3 decades. Will have to do the same for all the Bengalis, Somalis, Uzbeks etc etc, so where will it stop.

I don't really have a solution but in my opinion if they are already here, they should be given a refugee ID and allowed to get jobs and make a living. And when peace is restored in their country they can go back.
Finally we're getting back to topic Imad again prob is our own people are suffering young degree holders are jobless we can not hold so many people water shortage in our country is one of the biggest issues than comes the slums and diseases we know the situation of our health system it is really a problem and a burden can't we crack a deal with Turkey or KSA we can pay at least a billion and send them there right? That's why i am saying this is not a moment where we need to think emotionally.
 
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