PEMRA Sends Notice to BOL Over Hamza Ali Abbasi’s ‘Anti-Pakistan’ Remarks

[Verve]

Let's replace desi liberals with Enlightened Desis (who give a toss about Faith)

The Enlightened Desis will happily stand by and watch (or turn away) the gutting of one baby and another thrown in fire, because they think they are too damn poor to house and feed them. Insensitive b******s!

 

[Zibago]

Abay jahil Hamza Journalist hai?As a party representative bathay koi masla nai hai.Kl ko police officer ko Judge ki kursi par bitha datay hain.Koi qualification nai chahiay.Jis ka dil kray mou autha k Tv pr Anchor ban jie.Anchor ko unbiased hona chahiay,yeah basic hai lakin Imran niazi k kutton ko yeah baat samaj nai aie ge.ARY ko Kharida hua hai establishment aur pti nay.ARY walay paltu kuttay hain pti aur establishment k.Geo pr Hasan nisar b hota hai jo pti ka difa krta hai.Wo b bika hua hai?Tum bikou maal ho Is liay tumy sab bikou lagtay hain..

Wo party ka member nahi hay usko aik azad shehri ki tarah haq hay wo jo marzo job karey aur channel ko issue nahi to tujhay kiyon hay?
Agar baat neutrality par hi ati to aj Mujib Ur Rehman jaisey log tv par na hotey
Kiya sabut hay ary bika hy?geo ka to sabut bhi maujod hay unko 80% ads jati hain unhon nay to Monsack walon ki fake apology bhi chalayi baad mein koyi muafi bhi nahi mangi
Apni taraf sey bongi martey ho baghair sabut kay sab ko pata hy kisney sarkari paisey media ko diye

Reporters have to unbiased they have to reports facts without any biases journalists who present their views on tv present their analysis based on their understanding of right or wrong they will be biased toward what they think is right they will present their analysis based on that all over the world journalists do that btw you cant compare them to police or judges journalists dont get our tax money (except for well funded one,s the govt likes) nor can they force the state machinery to act against other people they can only shape opinions

Life of some people revolves around few words/things i.e Religion, Religion, Religion, Religion, Religion, declaring other kafirs, Religion, Religion, Religion, declaring people from different sects kafir, Religion, Religion, Religion, anyone who talks about country or talk about common sense a desi liberal, Religion, Religion, Religion, any1 talks about believing in live and let live westoxified folks, Religion, Religion, disagree with them yahoodi agent yahoodi sazish, Religion, Religion, Religion.

Remember people obsession with anything even with religion is dangerous and harmful for you and others around you.

@Hell hound @Zibago @Azlan Haider @Sher Shah Awan

Jaib mein paisey hain koyi hmnahi batein dekho

 

[WhyCry]

Indian passport is no catch either, lol.....

Please tell it to pakistanis and bangladeshis as well.

Liberals and mullahs....

The fact is that people in Pakistan have more loyalty with others than with pakistan. For them Pakistan is their baap ki jagir. Its never first for them thus they use these stupid hair brained scheme in name of ummah.

Second fact is that ummah has failed in the modern world. Where is it? Where is the ummah? Where are they when trump is shouting at us. Where were they when we were fighting wars.

They were busy attacking other Muslim countries.

I would trust the atheist China over any of these so called brother's.

Are we to become a prosperous and glorious nation or are we to become a yateem Khana for every Muslim around the world.

We have made enemies with powerful nations following this concept and all we got from our ummah brother's was hostilities. They care only about themselves. They will never raise voice for us and they are incompetent as hell.

@Kaptaan is right. Bring them in and two decades later they will bitch and moan with their political party as how we are being under counted in census and give us a province.

I Remember when fools like him were asking for Syrian refugees and now Europe is filled with their criminal activity and ISIS.


Par Bhai pakistan say piyar ho tu pakistan first ka sochay.

Muslim Ummah has not failed but pakistan has arm twisted and sucked the blood out of it.

The definition of Ummah is different for all the stakeholders of pakistan.
1. The public: They were made to drink this down their throats with brain washing and giving them a new arab based identity. Urdu was made the language of a society where there were no speakers of. Then bhutto who wanted to be a better muslim since one of the parents was a non-muslim, created a virtual world of 'Ummah' and its leadership by him. He introduced the policy to make 'True' musalman. After Zia came to power, he made sure the their were only "True" musalman as a part of state policy and went ahead with extremism of the society.

2. Government: They always used the ummah to its benefit for milking the money or getting the atam bomb.

3. Establishment: The junior offices are also living of the coolaid of muslim ummah and therefore have good motives to support the 'Jehad'. The upper post always gets their part of the cut. In the end, most of the AID ends up in the laps of establishment. The were up for sale like the zia until recently when they refrained from yemen but now raheel is back on their payroll.

Pakistan had done nothing for muslim ummah as of today, now when they can do something, they don't. They want to assume leadership of the same when the establishment is thinking of itself. I think turkey does believe in it and heck it's even doing a lot for the same.

 

[Pakistani E]

Life of some people revolves around few words/things i.e Religion, Religion, Religion, Religion, Religion, declaring other kafirs, Religion, Religion, Religion, declaring people from different sects kafir, Religion, Religion, Religion, anyone who talks about country or talk about common sense a desi liberal, Religion, Religion, Religion, any1 talks about believing in live and let live westoxified folks, Religion, Religion, disagree with them yahoodi agent yahoodi sazish, Religion, Religion, Religion.

Remember people obsession with anything even with religion is dangerous and harmful for you and others around you.

@Hell hound @Zibago @Azlan Haider @Sher Shah Awan

You know I want to ask these thekhedars, why don't they ask the Muslim Ummah about where it stands on the oppression of Kashmiris? Anywhere between 30-100k Kashmiris have died in the past few decades, yet do we see a single rally anywhere in the Muslim world? Do we see call for sanctions against India? Do we see champions of oppressed Muslims wanting to arm them? Nah, they treat the Indian leaders like Kings and grant them their highest awards.

Yet these Pakistanis are now turning around and cursing the government of Pakistan for not dispatching Rambo and John wayne to rescue the Rohingyas. First tell me, why is there a double standard when it comes to Pakistan and by extension Kashmiris? How many countries are calling for sanctions on India for what they did in Kashmir? How many still perform trade deals with them and invest in their countries and host their diasporas. Yet now for the first time, we as a nation are looking after own interest and not putting our nose in to others business, we are being derided. Really?

Why are these mard ke momins silent on the silence of the Muslim world on Kashmir? We say India sponsors terrorists in Pakistan and thousands of Pakistanis have died through them. Yet do we see any hue and cry from the Pakistanis who are crying here about why other Muslim countries are silent on what happens to Pakistanis and Kashmiris?

 

[The Sandman]

You know I want to ask these thekhedars, why don't they ask the Muslim Ummah about where it stands on the oppression of Kashmiris? Anywhere between 30-100k Kashmiris have died in the past few decades, yet do we see a single rally anywhere in the Muslim world? Do we see call for sanctions against India? Do we see champions of oppressed Muslims wanting to arm them? Nah, they treat the Indian leaders like Kings and grant them their highest awards.

Yet these Pakistanis are now turning around and cursing the government of Pakistan for not dispatching Rambo and John wayne to rescue the Rohingyas. First tell me, why is there a double standard when it comes to Pakistan and by extension Kashmiris? How many countries are calling for sanctions on India for what they did in Kashmir? How many still perform trade deals with them and invest in their countries and host their diasporas. Yet now for the first time, we as a nation are looking after own interest and not putting our nose in to others business, we are being derided. Really?

Why are these mard ke momins silent on the silence of the Muslim world on Kashmir? We say India sponsors terrorists in Pakistan and thousands of Pakistanis have died through them. Yet do we see any hue and cry from the Pakistanis who are crying here about why other Muslim countries are silent on what happens to Pakistanis and Kashmiris?

Because bhai jaan majority of our awaam after brainwashing in the 80's have assumed that we're the only thekedars of the whole muslim world it will take 10-20 more years to get cured.

No one in this thread propagating for Ummah have any logical answer backed with hard facts to your questions.

 

[Pakistani E]

Because bhai jaan majority of our awaam after brainwashing in the 80's have assumed that we're the only thekedars of the whole muslim world it will take 10-20 more years to get cured.

No one in this thread propagating for Ummah have any logical answer backed with hard facts to your questions.

Not one of those people ever replies to me when I mention these points.

Lets see who will swallow the silver bullet and reply to me in a logical manner.

 

[313ghazi]

You know I want to ask these thekhedars, why don't they ask the Muslim Ummah about where it stands on the oppression of Kashmiris? Anywhere between 30-100k Kashmiris have died in the past few decades, yet do we see a single rally anywhere in the Muslim world? Do we see call for sanctions against India? Do we see champions of oppressed Muslims wanting to arm them? Nah, they treat the Indian leaders like Kings and grant them their highest awards.

Yet these Pakistanis are now turning around and cursing the government of Pakistan for not dispatching Rambo and John wayne to rescue the Rohingyas. First tell me, why is there a double standard when it comes to Pakistan and by extension Kashmiris? How many countries are calling for sanctions on India for what they did in Kashmir? How many still perform trade deals with them and invest in their countries and host their diasporas. Yet now for the first time, we as a nation are looking after own interest and not putting our nose in to others business, we are being derided. Really?

Why are these mard ke momins silent on the silence of the Muslim world on Kashmir? We say India sponsors terrorists in Pakistan and thousands of Pakistanis have died through them. Yet do we see any hue and cry from the Pakistanis who are crying here about why other Muslim countries are silent on what happens to Pakistanis and Kashmiris?

its easy to say that today, but look at those countries. Iraq was secular and relaxed, what happened when it was attacked? The same is true of Libya, Syria etc. These countries took that approach of "minding their own business" and when war came there was nobody to stand and fight. Resistance only came after humiliation and most of the fighting was amongst themselves not against occupiers.

You live in the UK, you will be familiar with the phenomena of people just "walking away" and ignoring when something bad happens to someone. It didn't used to be the way, people would get involved as they had community spirit, a sense of belonging, it was build around their national identity.

Our country is not a "natural" country, or one restricted to thousands of years of 1 ethnicity. Our binding identity is Islam. you find people have values and courage because of that. They will stick together more than they are divided by Islamic identity. We take away the concept of the ummah and we will be no different to Iraq, Syria, Libya and our end will be no different.

 

[Pakistani E]

its easy to say that today, but look at those countries. Iraq was secular and relaxed, what happened when it was attacked? The same is true of Libya, Syria etc. These countries took that approach of "minding their own business" and when war came there was nobody to stand and fight. Resistance only came after humiliation and most of the fighting was amongst themselves not against occupiers.

You live in the UK, you will be familiar with the phenomena of people just "walking away" and ignoring when something bad happens to someone. It didn't used to be the way, people would get involved as they had community spirit, a sense of belonging, it was build around their national identity.

Our country is not a "natural" country, or one restricted to thousands of years of 1 ethnicity. Our binding identity is Islam. you find people have values and courage because of that. They will stick together more than they are divided by Islamic identity. We take away the concept of the ummah and we will be no different to Iraq, Syria, Libya and our end will be no different.

Those examples you have given are not relevant to Jammu and Kashmir. The above countries never actually had the mentality of minding their own business, on the contrary, it was their consistent efforts to interfere in others that resulted in them being overthrown or descend in to civil war.

I don't need to go on and mention what Libya, Syria and Iraq did or try to do to either countries in their neighbourhood or further afield.

And it's not like we have always stayed out of others' business, did we not go in with full fanfare in to Afghanistan? What did that minding others' business got us? A generation ruined with drugs, others in terrorism, sectarian violence that claimed thousands of lives, ethnic tensions in our largest city? An already struggling country flooded with millions more refugees?

I am sorry, but your examples actually support my point of view more than yours. It is far better to stand up for issues that affect you, rather trying to stand up for the world, because in the end you will realise that no amount of standing up for others will win you any goodwill amongst them. You are also in U.K, I am sure you have met many Afghans, because I have, I also lived amongst Afghans in Pakistan. You think they really care about Pakistan? Or will be willing to sacrifice themselves like we are willing to sacrifice ourselves for others?

I am not staying we should not raise our voice on what's going on Myanmar, and follow the correct international procedures, but we do not have a leg to stand on, neither politically nor diplomatically. Why? Because we are not a strong and united country ourselves, the moment a leader arises to work for Pakistan alone, he will be overthrown by an agent of one foreign power or another, a sympathiser of one religious group or another. This is the reality, you want us to go around chasing the wars of others, while we are continually losing our wars from within?

You are of course free to choose your own course, but I have rallied enough for Palestine already. I am tired of rallying for others while no one will rally for me and mine. When Kashmiris die, and the Indian leader is given an award and trade deals worth billions are signed by other Muslim countries, my blood boils. Why is the blood of my Kashmiri brother and sister cheaper than others?

No I am sorry, either the Ummah concept as we understand it doesn't exist, or it is dead if it ever existed. You can continue to believe in it.

 

[Verve]

You know I want to ask these thekhedars, why don't they ask the Muslim Ummah about where it stands on the oppression of Kashmiris? Anywhere between 30-100k Kashmiris have died in the past few decades, yet do we see a single rally anywhere in the Muslim world? Do we see call for sanctions against India? Do we see champions of oppressed Muslims wanting to arm them? Nah, they treat the Indian leaders like Kings and grant them their highest awards.

Yet these Pakistanis are now turning around and cursing the government of Pakistan for not dispatching Rambo and John wayne to rescue the Rohingyas. First tell me, why is there a double standard when it comes to Pakistan and by extension Kashmiris? How many countries are calling for sanctions on India for what they did in Kashmir? How many still perform trade deals with them and invest in their countries and host their diasporas. Yet now for the first time, we as a nation are looking after own interest and not putting our nose in to others business, we are being derided. Really?

Why are these mard ke momins silent on the silence of the Muslim world on Kashmir? We say India sponsors terrorists in Pakistan and thousands of Pakistanis have died through them. Yet do we see any hue and cry from the Pakistanis who are crying here about why other Muslim countries are silent on what happens to Pakistanis and Kashmiris?

You will find that the libtards in the media are the ones who will not talk of Kashmir. Asma Jahangir and others, they are all mute on Kashmir. So sir, it is the other way around!!! The libtards are the ones who started 'Kashmir is not our issue' BS in Pakistan ..... read their columns and watch their venom in shows from last two decades!

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

These ptians Ali Mohmmad , Murad and this joker Hamza ali are so naive. This idiot Hamza ali hold Pakistani nationality and citizenship and saying that people will not spit on Pakistani passport . He is acting like altaaf . We should deport ungrateful people like him who hold no value for their nationality and citizenship and make fun of it on live TV . He should be deported to Hinduvta India or Burma so that he get to know the value of Pakistani passport. He is admitting that Pakistan is overpopulated nation with limited resources but still talking like emotional fool. They have not learned a lesson from afghan refugees.

Muslim Ummah is ideological bond because being Muslim you actually feel the pain and suffering of Muslims around the globe but Muslim Ummah dont mean giving nationality to all Muslims irrespective of condition of your own country whether it can afford to sustain them in the long run . Its like a father who cannot feed his own kids but talk about feeding all kids who live in his neighbourhood. Hamza ali and those supporting his stance should take few Rohingya Muslims in their own homes and should fulfil all their basic needs from their own pocket then i will take them seriously because its easy to rant on tv and talk about Ummah than managing it practically

 

[Arsalan]

I have friends in both groups fighting over this matter here so i am out! Cannot take sides in this matter really. However there are a few things i would like to say before i say bye to this particular discussion.

Yes, obsession with anything is wrong! It is harmful and it stands true for the obsession with having nothing to do with religion. I am not advocating that the Burma Muslims should be given refugee (or not) because they are Muslims but being honest, being a HUMAN AND ALSO being a Muslim, my heart goes out to them. Those poor people who are being butchered ONLY because they are Muslims. There is absolutely no other reason. So yes, being a Muslim, this matter do concerns me. When people are being targeted because they have the same faith as i do, how can it not concern me on an individual level. INDIVIDUAL level i said!

On the other hand, i will like to remind people who are saying that we should give them refugee immediately that we made similar decision under similar circumstances regarding Afghans. That served us real well right? The country along with its people are the most ungrateful lot you will ever come across. While i say this, i will admit that there have been short comings and some mismanagement from our side as well but NO ONE WHO IS ANALYZING THE SITUATION HONESTLY can say that we have not done anything or even say that we have not done ENOUGH for the Afghans. Still, you see where we stand.

So in my opinion, while on a personal level, i strong condemn (as should every HUMAN being) what is going on in Burma and really want to help as much as i can, as a Pakistani and from my nations point of view, i am not so sure if we are in position to accommodate all of those people. I will leave the decision with the experts. But have no doubt, i will welcome any such people coming from that God Forsaken part of the world to my home with open arms, because he is my Muslim brother/Sister, BECAUSE HE IS A FELLOW HUMAN BEING for God's Sake! AND i wont have a problem if the government limits its support to diplomatic level and pressurizing Burma to end the genocide rather than just taking in all those who are suffering.


Regarding this thread and the discussion here, i am sorry to say is all i see are extremists. People who think what they are saying is RIGHT and the other is wrong. One group labels the other "ultra liberals" the other calls the first "Mullahs". Both of them not up for a neutral civil debate that MAY help us find that path in the middle which all of us can walk on. No offense, just sharing my view - Hope i do not end up labeled Mulliberal!

@araz @Joe Shearer @fatman17 @Slav Defence @TaimiKhan

 

[The Eagle]

First of all, this is not a political discussion at hand nor a subject that we may redirect to any political party in Pakistan. Secondly, did PEMRA serve notice to Hamza for sympathy to Rohingya Muslims or due to the anti-Pakistan remarks? as soon as the question is being realized with the right answer, I am sure, we may have a specific subject worthy of discussion on the accurate point contrary to bashing etc based upon personal political likes/dislike.

The context of remarks passed by Hamza, are to be evaluated carefully before coming with any personal judgment against the same.

 

[fatman17]

Pakistan hasn't opened its gob yet. There is not condemnation or even a statement.

Unless you mean aiding them by selling JF-17 to myanmar.

Yes it has. Our FO and at the UN, Pakistan has condemned actions of Myanmar.

 

[fatman17]

First of all, this is not a political discussion at hand nor a subject that we may redirect to any political party in Pakistan. Secondly, did PEMRA serve notice to Hamza for sympathy to Rohingya Muslims or due to the anti-Pakistan remarks? as soon as the question is being realized with the right answer, I am sure, we may have a specific subject worthy of discussion on the accurate point contrary to bashing etc based upon personal political likes/dislike.

The context of remarks passed by Hamza, are to be evaluated carefully before coming with any personal judgment against the same.

We cannot be responsible for everything that happens around the world, esp to Muslims. We can offer moral and material support as every country should in such circumstances. We have enough refugee issues, eg the afghans which we haven't been able to sort out even after 36 years.

 

[The Eagle]

We cannot be responsible for everything that happens around the world, esp to Muslims. We can offer moral and material support as every country should in such circumstances. We have enough refugee issues, eg the afghans which we haven't been able to sort out even after 36 years.

True that. Situation at hand has more to do with geo-political issues as well as our internal handling. I do agree on account that no country can allow every refugee from around the world as the same is not a solution for such crisis however, providing support through diplomatic channel by moral as well as material, can push to an end.

Speaking of Rohingya and involvement of all the forces, in my opinion, there are a lot of factors other than Muslim card. World police seeking an entry point and a regional so-called power is all into this so that China can be pushed back. The forcible involvement of Pakistan for more than the practice is actually all what these powers want so that geopolitical and diplomatic relations of Pakistan as well as China may be derailed.

I will be adding another point in this regard that Thunder sell has a lot to do in current situation as per my own point of view. Eastern side is in so much pain hence, with the idea to use Muslims in these times so everyone would be pressing Pakistan first for the same that in my opinion, we should not fall into such unwanted situation. I am sure, there are reasons that we are aligned with China and Russia in this subject while doing everything possible for the victims. How come someone can expect us being police when UN itself cannot handle the situation and force Myanmar Government to stop these brutalities.

The Rohingya situation has more to do with geopolitics, start of weapon sale than Muslim genocide alone however, Muslims are victims just because of the name of Pakistan. As soon as such deals between three countries, Pakistan, China & Myanmar are somehow gone into doldrums as what the rivals planned, we will be seeing peace in Rohingya.