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PDM backed care taker gov and institutions blocked whole Lahore to stop entry in imran khan jalsa

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So whether the religious followers are in millions or billions, does that matter? A smaller number of educated followers who belong to lower and middle classes have more impact than all other supporters.

Imran Khan's current support is comprised of:

  • Majority of the country's intelligentsia
  • Hardworking lower middle and poor classes
  • People belonging to art and culture (writers, actors, poets etc)
  • Religious people (from all sects, including Barelvi (forgot that name of <First Name> <Raza>, Deobandi (Maulana Tariq Jameel), Shia (Ittehad e Bain ul Muslimeen walay) and Ahle Hadith (Ibtesaam Elahi Zaheer etc). I know quite a few who support Imran Khan but don't express that support in open.. Heck even Engineer Mirza is now openly challenging the current setup and its handlers)
  • Legal fraternity (last few bar elections have been won by PTI supported lawyers)
  • overseas Pakistanis

Many people tell that in Jalsa, you would see people from all walks of life.. no hullar bazi, no fight on Biryani or naan etc. People come on their own, rather than being taken in the buses hired for that purpose like other parties do.

In addition, just look at the retired officers.. from all the forces.. whether they belong to Armed Forces, Police, etc..

The dissent is not evident... which means that he is the most popular leader.. yesterday, his address was accessed by many million of people (and I have a problem with that but anyway), not just here but abroad too.

Despite all the odds, despite over 2000 workers detained, yesterday's massive show is something that everyone should ponder upon.

A few in service.. they can delay the process.. or they can eliminate Imran Khan.. but they can't change the tide of his popularity with the kind of actions (they are literally kidnapping children from homes if they aren't able to find the parents).

Any "sane" and "intelligent" person/ entity would immediately hold the elections, and let IK's popularity die its own death.. because Pakistan's economy is beyond redemption... but they want to kill it by force.. which has never worked in history.. it won't work in future as well.
You aren’t understanding the context.

200 in Zaman park while I don’t know, let’s say 5000 at minar e Pakistan. More arrived for chaskay than actually saving him.

a religious party leader when in same situation of being detained had his followers block entire Pakistan during IK’s government

Now Ponder.
 
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PTI viewership on social media broke all records.
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You aren’t understanding the context.

200 in Zaman park while I don’t know, let’s say 5000 at minar e Pakistan. More arrived for chaskay than actually saving him.

a religious party leader when in same situation of being detained had his followers block entire Pakistan during IK’s government

Now Ponder.
First, your numbers are extremely off.. but anyway lets not discuss that here.

The point is, when you have "common" people that represent society, you don't see tire burning, blockages, killings etc..

These are common people for God sake try to understand.. they are not workers of PTI.. even if someone asks them to terrorize others, they won't do that.. what do you expect them to do? burn their own cars, shops, bikes etc?

A dedicated worker is something else. Maulana's support is much less when you compare that to Imran Khan.. TLP's support is even lesser.. you can see that in the results of elections.. but when it comes of haraamzadgi, they do that because they don't belong to the normal sections of the society. Maulana brings people from his madarsa.. children mostly.. they don't know what's happening in the world. for them Maulana is their messiah.. he asks them to burn, they burn, because for them they would go to Jannah doing that. That's why they are not considered intelligentsia of our society.
 
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First, your numbers are extremely off.. but anyway lets not discuss that here.

The point is, when you have "common" people that represent society, you don't see tire burning, blockages, killings etc..

These are common people for God sake try to understand.. they are not workers of PTI.. even if someone asks them to terrorize others, they won't do that.. what do you expect them to do? burn their own cars, shops, bikes etc?

A dedicated worker is something else. Maulana's support is much less when you compare that to Imran Khan.. TLP's support is even lesser.. you can see that in the results of elections.. but when it comes of haraamzadgi, they do that because they don't belong to the normal sections of the society. Maulana brings people from his madarsa.. children mostly.. they don't know what's happening in the world. for them Maulana is their messiah.. he asks them to burn, they burn, because for them they would go to Jannah doing that. That's why they are not considered intelligentsia of our society.
I’m not sure of numbers that’s why I said I don’t know, tell me the numbers first.

Secondly, the destruction did occur at Zaman park against police and then in isb. The level maybe lesser than molana’s followers but you do mention literates of the society for PTI, so is that justified ?

I mentioned that religion is used as a tool so that point is clear.
 
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You aren’t understanding the context.

200 in Zaman park while I don’t know, let’s say 5000 at minar e Pakistan. More arrived for chaskay than actually saving him.

a religious party leader when in same situation of being detained had his followers block entire Pakistan during IK’s government

Now Ponder.
lolll.... ya kaam bhi theek ha ... vo kaam bhi theek ha ..

 
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I’m not sure of numbers that’s why I said I don’t know, tell me the numbers first.

Secondly, the destruction did occur at Zaman park against police and then in isb. The level maybe lesser than molana’s followers but you do mention literates of the society for PTI, so is that justified ?

I mentioned that religion is used as a tool so that point is clear
Do you think the destruction would have happened had police reached out to Imran Khan like they do with all others? Like they have done to Maryam Nawaz etc.

Police came with full force.. with water cannons, tear gas, they should have expected the retaliation. Even intelligentsia sometimes retaliates physically (historic events in other countries are evidence of that).

Even then, not a single police officer was killed or even seriously injured. Had they been maulana's or TLP's members, they would have killed many policemen. I say this often on this forum, Altaf Hussain would have got a separate country if he had similar numbers in support.

Regarding numbers, the videos I have seen, they tell a different story. Minar Pakistan's park was completely filled, people who couldn't enter the ground were standing outside.. I don't know the size of the ground so can't tell the approximate number.. but this one has broken all the records.. I usually listen to Habib Akram (he is the only unbiased in my opinion). If he is saying that it has broken all the records, then you should add a few thousands to the last one.
 
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PMLN has lost the grip of her vote bank. Now establishment and PDM ultimate target is to eliminate Imran Khan. One vs All.
 
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