PDF Soul Searching

[Rusty]

I have been thinking of posting this here for a while and finally decided to put this out there.

My intentions are not to single out any one individual, I just want a dialogue from Pakistanis of PDF on "the soul" of PDF.

I have noted that PDF is fast becoming a haven for Chinese posters who do nothing but spam PDF with pro Chinese content. Its to the point where at any given time the "New posts and threads" section will be like 30% fulled with at least one Chinese poster who is constantly posting pro Chinese news. (seriously try it, and look for all the pro Chinese posters)

One Chinese poster in particular has Joined PDF around 2011, the same time I did.
I have a full time job that gives me lots of free time, so I would say I spend more time on PDF then a normal person would. from 2011 to now I have managed to post like 7400 posts. In that same time this Chinese poster has managed to post almost 24000 posts.
Almost each and every one of them being a pro China post.

When PDF had a patwari problem, you could easily tell who was a paid patwari by the fact that they almost exclusively posted pro PMLN content and would never make posts that were critical of Nawaz and company.

Real posters don't behave like that.

Now my question is, how should we deal with Chinese posters who, it feels like, their full time job is to post pro China content here.
Should we allow PDF to become another mouth piece for CPC? Can we implement some guidelines on how to post? Maybe a limit thread creation to 2 day?


Now before PDF lynches me, I am not saying we should ban or stop Chinese posters. I am just saying we need a system to discourage obvious pro Chinese propaganda being constantly being posted here.


The mods here are protective of these Chinese posters so I am trying to be careful to not give them any reason to ban me.

I would appreciate an adult discussion and not just mudslinging at pro/anti Chinese propaganda posters. Also, this question is for Pakistani PDF members in particular.

 

[beijingwalker]

I have been thinking of posting this here for a while and finally decided to put this out there.

My intentions are not to single out any one individual, I just want a dialogue from Pakistanis of PDF on "the soul" of PDF.

I have noted that PDF is fast becoming a haven for Chinese posters who do nothing but spam PDF with pro Chinese content. Its to the point where at any given time the "New posts and threads" section will be like 30% fulled with at least one Chinese poster who is constantly posting pro Chinese news. (seriously try it, and look for all the pro Chinese posters)

One Chinese poster in particular has Joined PDF around 2011, the same time I did.
I have a full time job that gives me lots of free time, so I would say I spend more time on PDF then a normal person would. from 2011 to now I have managed to post like 7400 posts. In that same time this Chinese poster has managed to post almost 24000 posts.
Almost each and every one of them being a pro China post.

When PDF had a patwari problem, you could easily tell who was a paid patwari by the fact that they almost exclusively posted pro PMLN content and would never make posts that were critical of Nawaz and company.

Real posters don't behave like that.

Now my question is, how should we deal with Chinese posters who, it feels like, their full time job is to post pro China content here.
Should we allow PDF to become another mouth piece for CPC? Can we implement some guidelines on how to post? Maybe a limit thread creation to 2 day?


Now before PDF lynches me, I am not saying we should ban or stop Chinese posters. I am just saying we need a system to discourage obvious pro Chinese propaganda being constantly being posted here.


The mods here are protective of these Chinese posters so I am trying to be careful to not give them any reason to ban me.

I would appreciate an adult discussion and not just mudslinging at pro/anti Chinese propaganda posters. Also, this question is for Pakistani PDF members in particular.

Maybe you are not used to any positve reports about China since you live in Canada, one of the mother ships where western China bashing storm originates. Unlike the west , we don't bash other countries unprovoked, and our posts are mostly in China section which is made for China related discussion, my suggest is that if you have them, don't go there, if you don't like certain posters, block them like I did, that'll help solve your problem.

 

[Rusty]

Maybe you are not used to any positve reports about China since you live in Canada, one of the mother ships where western China bashing storm originates. Unlike the west , we don't bash other countries unprovoked, and our posts are mostly in China section which is made for China related discussion, my suggest is that if you have them, don't go there, if you don't like certain posters, block them like I did, that'll help solve your problem.

I specifically asked this to be a discussion between Pakistani members, so why did you feel the need to comment here? Why are you getting so defensive? I never named you in my comment.

 

[khansaheeb]

I have been thinking of posting this here for a while and finally decided to put this out there.

My intentions are not to single out any one individual, I just want a dialogue from Pakistanis of PDF on "the soul" of PDF.

I have noted that PDF is fast becoming a haven for Chinese posters who do nothing but spam PDF with pro Chinese content. Its to the point where at any given time the "New posts and threads" section will be like 30% fulled with at least one Chinese poster who is constantly posting pro Chinese news. (seriously try it, and look for all the pro Chinese posters)

One Chinese poster in particular has Joined PDF around 2011, the same time I did.
I have a full time job that gives me lots of free time, so I would say I spend more time on PDF then a normal person would. from 2011 to now I have managed to post like 7400 posts. In that same time this Chinese poster has managed to post almost 24000 posts.
Almost each and every one of them being a pro China post.

When PDF had a patwari problem, you could easily tell who was a paid patwari by the fact that they almost exclusively posted pro PMLN content and would never make posts that were critical of Nawaz and company.

Real posters don't behave like that.

Now my question is, how should we deal with Chinese posters who, it feels like, their full time job is to post pro China content here.
Should we allow PDF to become another mouth piece for CPC? Can we implement some guidelines on how to post? Maybe a limit thread creation to 2 day?


Now before PDF lynches me, I am not saying we should ban or stop Chinese posters. I am just saying we need a system to discourage obvious pro Chinese propaganda being constantly being posted here.


The mods here are protective of these Chinese posters so I am trying to be careful to not give them any reason to ban me.

I would appreciate an adult discussion and not just mudslinging at pro/anti Chinese propaganda posters. Also, this question is for Pakistani PDF members in particular.

What's stopping you from posting pro Chinese posts? Are you a hind-jew or something they are the most anti-Chinese and Anti-Pakistan? So what is your real complaint that the Chinese are prolific posters than you or that the Chinese are our friends on the forum and we appreciate their posts?

 

[beijingwalker]

I specifically asked this to be a discussion between Pakistani members, so why did you feel the need to comment here? Why are you getting so defensive? I never named you in my comment.

Cause your post is specifically concerned about China, you didn't say Chinese can't comment here I guess, you can note it if you don't want any Chinese commenting here.

 

[Rusty]

What's stopping you from posting pro Chinese posts? Are you a hind-jew or something they are the most anti-Chinese and Anti-Pakistan? So what is your real complaint that the Chinese are prolific posters than you or that the Chinese are our friends on the forum and we appreciate their posts?

Again, I specifically asked to have a civil discussion. Why are you using such foul language?
Are you incapable of having an adult discussion?

Cause your post is specifically concerned about China, you didn't say Chinese can't comment here I guess, you can note it if you don't want any Chinese commenting here.

Did you even read what I wrote?
"Also, this question is for Pakistani PDF members in particular."

That is the nicest way I can say "Chinese people should allow Pakistanis to discuss their propaganda and not comment"
Mods here like to protect you guys so I am trying not to say anything that will cause them to ban me for questioning your propaganda.

 

[beijingwalker]

Did you even read what I wrote?
"Also, this question is for Pakistani PDF members in particular."

That is the nicest way I can say "Chinese people should allow Pakistanis to discuss their propaganda and not comment"
Mods here like to protect you guys so I am trying not to say anything that will cause them to ban me for questioning your propaganda.

Ok, next time you can say it more clearly that this thread is only for Pakistani posters to discuss, no foreigners are welcome here.

Mods here like to protect you guys so I am trying not to say anything that will cause them to ban me for questioning your propaganda.

I m pretty sure that I got banned way more times than you did.

 

[khansaheeb]

Again, I specifically asked to have a civil discussion. Why are you using such foul language?
Are you incapable of having an adult discussion?

I am capable of having an adult discussion with an adult.

 

[Rusty]

I am capable of having an adult discussion with an adult.

Are you being paid?
Why is this topic getting you so mad that you are acting like a child?

Add something of value here or stop posting, no one is interested in your temper tantrum.

 

[khansaheeb]

Are you being paid?
Why is this topic getting you so mad that you are acting like a child?

Add something of value here or stop posting, no one is interested in your temper tantrum.

 

[Beast]

Are you being paid?
Why is this topic getting you so mad that you are acting like a child?

Add something of value here or stop posting, no one is interested in your temper tantrum.

Typical tactics when a genuine question raise and some try to sidetrack as troll. More like you acting as troll to shut others down.

 

[Rusty]

Typical tactics when a genuine question raise and some try to sidetrack as troll. More like you acting as troll to shut others down.

sigh... do you guys only listen to Mr. Xi?
I kindly requested this be a place to Pakistanis to discuss PAKISTAN deference forum.

And maybe in China a "respectable" way to discuss is to call the other person names and throw a tantrum, but that is now how normal people "respectfully discuss" things.

 

[Beast]

sigh... do you guys only listen to Mr. Xi?
I kindly requested this be a place to Pakistanis to discuss PAKISTAN deference forum.

And maybe in China a "respectable" way to discuss is to call the other person names and throw a tantrum, but that is now how normal people "respectfully discuss" things.

See!! Keep avoid the topic with sidetrack and insult. The more you do the more Pakistanis will not against. Keep doing it. I want to see how many more Pakistanis away towards defending China.. Go ahead and make yourself irritated.

 

[Rusty]

@Beast I am not going to quote you as I already reported you for derailing the thread.

 

[khansaheeb]

@Beast I am not going to quote you as I already reported you for derailing the thread.

Rusty the clown