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Just because we have feelings for Turkestan should not mean we shove it in the face of the Chinks. Realpolitik and all that ......
Free northern Gandhara! Lands of our great empire.

If the commies can lay claim to lands on the bases of their "historic maps" then so can we and our maps are older, which includes TURKESTAN
 
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All hell breaks lose if you say anything against these commies and their propaganda. They will spam you with nonsensical videos and off topic comparisons.


Considering internet and PDF is banned in china, these posters are going seriously out of their way to spend so much time on PDF.

50 cent troll army, indeed.




LONG LIVE THE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF EAST TURKESTAN.


Lemme post you a video of foreigners in Xinjiang and then you can see how everyone is free and unicorns jump over the rainbow.
The best part is that whenever I question them, they always accuse me of being an Indian.

In their brainwashed mines, they cannot fathom anyone being critical of the CPC.

Yes. What is worse that could happen? Islamabad turns into Beijing. Karachi turns into shining Shanghai. 80% of the population go from poverty to middle income in 20 years. Instead of being a global terror factory Pakistan becomes global industrial hub.

No?

@Beast @beijingwalker
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the worst that could happen is that Muslims in Pakistan being put into concentration camps, having our organs stolen, Chinese men sleeping in our wives bed (seriously, this is actually happening), and our democracy that we fought for from dictators and corrupt politicians is destroyed.
 
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I think you didn't stay here long enough. Before that I post plenty of balouchistan freedom movement and abuse of pashtun in here and moderator are swift to censor and delete the thread. Same as Kurdish issue with just a single Turkish members complaint and moderator will immediately take action. You all are really thicker skinned to accuse Chinese members. We are so protected then why beijingwalker is banned?


@waz @The Eagle @WebMaster

Looks like some can't take a civilise debate with the name calling.
And what's happening in balochistan and "pashtuns" do engliten me...a fuking "Pashtun" wants to know what your barking about.

I think you didn't stay here long enough. Before that I post plenty of balouchistan freedom movement and abuse of pashtun in here and moderator are swift to censor and delete the thread. Same as Kurdish issue with just a single Turkish members complaint and moderator will immediately take action. You all are really thicker skinned to accuse Chinese members. We are so protected then why beijingwalker is banned?


@waz @The Eagle @WebMaster

Looks like some can't take a civilise debate with the name calling.
You think that's not civilized? That's funny considering your genocide in Xinjiang. Thats all very civilized.


@Dubious hes spreading bs about "pashtuns" and balochistan, even tho anyone from anywhere in the world can go there and record everything and publish anything they see or happen there. Unlike Xinjiang, this troll is hellbent on spreading flase narratives.

The best part is that whenever I question them, they always accuse me of being an Indian.

In their brainwashed mines, they cannot fathom anyone being critical of the CPC.


hehe
the worst that could happen is that Muslims in Pakistan being put into concentration camps, having our organs stolen, Chinese men sleeping in our wives bed (seriously, this is actually happening), and our democracy that we fought for from dictators and corrupt politicians is destroyed.
Look at him jumping around
 
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@Rusty these CPC trolls are becoming very annoying. The iron brother Pakistanis will lick Chinese boots as usual

Pakistan has benefited from it's relations with China. That is undeniable.

Unfortunately, Pakistanis have a habit of worshiping these outsiders.
It used to be the Gora Sahib, now it's the Cheni Sahib.

We need to grow the F--- up and behave like a nuclear power that we are.

So many of our Pakistani PDFers internalize "Chinese help" to "Chinese worship"

Pakistan was made on the basis of Islam.
The CPC is an existential threat to Islam, as they only want people to worship them and not God.

Sooner or later most Pakistanis will have to wake up to this.
 
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Yes China is good for us but not to the extent we(common iron brother Pakistani) has been led to believe. Your gora sahib comment is so horrifyingly comic. Communism is the very antithesis to islam.

And yeah it's gonna be a really hard awakening.
Pakistan has benefited from it's relations with China. That is undeniable.

Unfortunately, Pakistanis have a habit of worshiping these outsiders.
It used to be the Gora Sahib, now it's the Cheni Sahib.

We need to grow the F--- up and behave like a nuclear power that we are.

So many of our Pakistani PDFers internalize "Chinese help" to "Chinese worship"

Pakistan was made on the basis of Islam.
The CPC is an existential threat to Islam, as they only want people to worship them and not God.

Sooner or later most Pakistanis will have to wake up to this.
 
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And what's happening in balochistan and "pashtuns" do engliten me...a fuking "Pashtun" wants to know what your barking about.


You think that's not civilized? That's funny considering your genocide in Xinjiang. Thats all very civilized.


@Dubious hes spreading bs about "pashtuns" and balochistan, even tho anyone from anywhere in the world can go there and record everything and publish anything they see or happen there. Unlike Xinjiang, this troll is hellbent on spreading flase narratives.


Look at him jumping around
Right, ask moderator come in to shut me off and then claim how Chinese are being protected here and how censor about the topic of China? I get a good laugh, you all being selective and indulge in your self denial.

That is all you are capable. In the real world and outside, you all are nothing. At least China being strong is a reality. One hand , this people accuse of China but other hand, they have no problem working with China on many projects from infrastructure to military...
 
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What's stopping you from posting pro Chinese posts? Are you a hind-jew or something they are the most anti-Chinese and Anti-Pakistan? So what is your real complaint that the Chinese are prolific posters than you or that the Chinese are our friends on the forum and we appreciate their posts?



@Rusty I believe you should have also said only Pakistanis with a certain level of IQ can come and post to not have to see dumb shit like this with no clue.

I have been thinking of posting this here for a while and finally decided to put this out there.

My intentions are not to single out any one individual, I just want a dialogue from Pakistanis of PDF on "the soul" of PDF.

I have noted that PDF is fast becoming a haven for Chinese posters who do nothing but spam PDF with pro Chinese content. Its to the point where at any given time the "New posts and threads" section will be like 30% fulled with at least one Chinese poster who is constantly posting pro Chinese news. (seriously try it, and look for all the pro Chinese posters)

One Chinese poster in particular has Joined PDF around 2011, the same time I did.
I have a full time job that gives me lots of free time, so I would say I spend more time on PDF then a normal person would. from 2011 to now I have managed to post like 7400 posts. In that same time this Chinese poster has managed to post almost 24000 posts.
Almost each and every one of them being a pro China post.

When PDF had a patwari problem, you could easily tell who was a paid patwari by the fact that they almost exclusively posted pro PMLN content and would never make posts that were critical of Nawaz and company.

Real posters don't behave like that.

Now my question is, how should we deal with Chinese posters who, it feels like, their full time job is to post pro China content here.
Should we allow PDF to become another mouth piece for CPC? Can we implement some guidelines on how to post? Maybe a limit thread creation to 2 day?


Now before PDF lynches me, I am not saying we should ban or stop Chinese posters. I am just saying we need a system to discourage obvious pro Chinese propaganda being constantly being posted here.


The mods here are protective of these Chinese posters so I am trying to be careful to not give them any reason to ban me.

I would appreciate an adult discussion and not just mudslinging at pro/anti Chinese propaganda posters. Also, this question is for Pakistani PDF members in particular.




I have seen and observed the same. Imagine, people using VPN to escape the confinement of a regime only to praise that regime day and night lol.

Thanks to the mess, we are not even able to openly discuss issues like the suffering of Uyghurs, which our own idiots and Chinese will portry as a non issue.
Yet, I have talked to so many Uyghurs who managed to go outside of China and they all talk about everything being worse than what even is out there yet.

Not to forget, we have grown so much in love with a godless people, we think of them as close friends and allies.
Even when clearly warned by God himself to never make that mistake.
All the people who are like Pak-China dosti bullshit right now, will tomorrow figure what a bully this China is and its zombie populace with a complete lack of morality that comes with faith in God is gonna be like...
 
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@Rusty I believe you should have also said only Pakistanis with a certain level of IQ can come and post to not have to see dumb shit like this with no clue.






I have seen and observed the same. Imagine, people using VPN to escape the confinement of a regime only to praise that regime day and night lol.

Thanks to the mess, we are not even able to openly discuss issues like the suffering of Uyghurs, which our own idiots and Chinese will portry as a non issue.
Yet, I have talked to so many Uyghurs who managed to go outside of China and they all talk about everything being worse than what even is out there yet.

Not to forget, we have grown so much in love with a godless people, we think of them as close friends and allies.
Even when clearly warned by God himself to never make that mistake.
All the people who are like Pak-China dosti bullshit right now, will tomorrow figure what a bully this China is and its zombie populace with a complete lack of morality that comes with faith in God is gonna be like...

I am glad I am not the only one to notice.
Talking to Pakistanis can feel like you are taking crazy pills sometimes.

China is a threat to Islam, they are a threat to Muslims IN PAKISTAN.
 
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Pakistan needs friends. They're surrounded by enemies , Afghanistan, India etc etc. So I get it. You need China to be your friend. I just don't see it though. China will never care for a Muslim country. they hate Muslims more than Americans. This is purely based on my interactions with them.

But what do I know. I am just a random nobody on the interwebs
 
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Pakistan needs friends. They're surrounded by enemies , Afghanistan, India etc etc. So I get it. You need China to be your friend. I just don't see it though. China will never care for a Muslim country. they hate Muslims more than Americans. This is purely based on my interactions with them.

But what do I know. I am just a random nobody on the interwebs



What you know is enough and more than most Pakistanis ever will realize.

China is friends of her interests. And her interests currently align with interests of Pakistan.
But till when? Till how long we will have a government and elite mafia who will know and yet ignore the issue of Uighyurs. They have to face Almighty, and the punishment will descend sooner or later. If it's Uighyurs today, tomorrow it will be Pakistanis and other Muslims around China.
 
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