PDF Poll: Solution to TLP; MQM of Pakistan

[Mentee]

we cannot Nuke our own country

How about d.u shells?

 

[TMA]

Much as I disagree with you but at least your honest in your thoughts. To be a Islamic state we need a office of the President occupied by a man of religion like Rizvi. This office would have powers to veto any government legislation that goes against Islamic principles. Plus this office would have power to give religious based ordinances. Only then would Pakistan be a real 'Islamic republic' unlike the sham we have right now which is niether secular or Islamic. It is a bastardised version of both.

And I can't think of a better man to occupy the office of supreme Islamic president then Rizvi. A Sunni version of the Iranian Vilayet-e- Fiqhe. Supreme religious leader. Then we can change the name to Islamic caliphate of Pakistan.

Well, they are according to Rizvi and his supporters. Go say that to his face. I dare you. Warning: You better be able to fly or run faster then Usain Bolt.

But why do you denigrate Islam by associated it with Rizvi et al....this is similar to the Modern West associating Islam with ISIS.... I do not disagree about what Rizvi et al say about themselves....
Do you actually think that Islam is what Rizvi et al portray it to be...????

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Do you actually think that Islam is what Rizvi et al portray it to be...????

No. I happen to think what Islam is according to my intellect and my understanding. I am one. So are you. As of right now there is no authorized representative of Allah on earth to certify who holds the definitive Islam. Each of us has a view or some of us defers our thinking to others. I retain it unto myself. Rizvi has thousands if not hundred of thousands who think he has the true meaning of Islam. So what is the take away from this?

No single person or group has definitive right on Islam. If there is please point me in the right direction. But cetainly there are far more people who will vouch Rizvi's interpretation of Islam over mine or yours.

 

[Jf Thunder]

How about d.u shells?

in the capital?

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Well, your understanding of an Islamic republic is limited.

Please point to me the historical model that you aspire to and then I can measure my understanding - that is far better metric then you saying saying so off the bat.

 

[war&peace]

Please point to me the historical model that you aspire to and then I can measure my understanding - that is far better metric then you saying saying so off the bat.

Well, if you have read the history...you won't need to ask this question in the first place
But anyways, the Madina state model

 

[Indus Pakistan]

But anyways, the Madina state model

You know there are books that cover consititutional law in 1,000 pages and they barely cover the subject. You on the other hand just cited 'Madina state model' and that is it. How about giving us your rendering of the key contours of what you think is the 'Madina state model'?

 

[war&peace]

You know there are books that cover consititutional law in 1,000 pages and they barely cover the subject. You on the other hand just cited 'Madina state model' and that is it. How about giving us your rendering of the key contours of what you think is the 'Madina state model'?

okay then read in two parts (1) 1-500 and (2) 501-1000

 

[Indus Pakistan]

okay then read in two parts (1) 1-500 and (2) 501-1000

Your pissing around. Clearly you have no fcukin idea what the 'Madina model' is other than that it sounds good. If you had, you could give rough contours of it instead of giving smart Alec replies that only expose your ignorance of the subject.

 

[MBT 3000]

forced education and arresting the ones causing problems, but not brute force or at least not fully no need for civil war

 

[313ghazi]

Please point to me the historical model that you aspire to and then I can measure my understanding - that is far better metric then you saying saying so off the bat.

Why limit ourselves to history? It's time to make history.

 

[Yankee-stani]

Its shit like this I think most in the diaspora dont want to go back and help the country sadly plus they end up working for traitors cause of the stupidity in politics over there I know deep down IK wants to radically shape changes there but cant because of old school party politics and these dumb *** so called Mullah's

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Why limit ourselves to history? It's time to make history.

I like this type of thinking. We got to have faith in our ability to change and be better.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

I wish these folks had lived under those Jelali Osmanli Sultans!!!! Then they would have understood what the State means, and what's its like to be the mouthpieces of the mortal enemies!!! Not a single one of them could have gone home alive!! And, their dead bodies would have been hanging for seven days and seven nights for the public display! For a reason, no foreign powers could even dare to touch the hair of the folks in the Muslim heartlands for centuries after centuries!!! It requires a certain type of mindset...

These Jahil folks are reading the scripts written at the dark basements of the foreign intelligence agencies!!!! If Pak State wants to survive, they need to be extremely hard on them!!! It's "now or never"....

Brute force will just aggravate matters

But you cant allow blackmail and flouting of law

We need to arrest idiots and culprits, open channels of conversation and make clear the boundaries of protest and criminal behaviour

And, take out the masterminds, who are at the payrolls of the foreign agencies, in a stealth fashion....

The slightest lack of ruthlessness is perceived as weakness in this business, unfortunately...

 

[Yankee-stani]

I wish these folks had lived under those Jelali Osmanli Sultans!!!! Then they would have understood what the State means, and what's its like to be the mouthpieces of the mortal enemies.....

These Jahil folks are reading the scripts written at the dark basements of the foreign intelligence agencies!!!! If Pak State wants to survive, they need to be extremely hard on them!!! It's "now or never"....


And, take out the masterminds, who are at the payrolls of the foreign agencies, in a stealth fashion....

The slightest lack of ruthlessness is perceived as weakness in this business, unfortunately...

@Hakikat ve Himet are you really Turkish or some guy posting as a Turk