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PDF - Is it Pakistani or American website?

It is interesting to observe that PDF being hosted or financed by USA is outside the control of the army with most members supporting Imran Khan and cursing Generals and Hafiz. But there seems to be no effort to control PDF by the Army unlike other social media. Does that mean that PDF is outside the control of Army? Or has PDF including its Moderators gone rogue? Another thought that comes to mind is that given the ex-army composition of the members and the general anti-army trend, PDF activities would be on the radar of both ISI and CIA. If that Retired Major Raja on Twitter and Youtube can cause so much trouble for the government, then how much trouble can 40 or 50 ex-army men and another 40 or 50 civilians with a can-do attitude can cause? Your comments welcomed.
Being hosted in USA does not mean it is outside army's control. Its the control of domain that matters. Website data can be moved anywhere if hosting account/server is siezed.
 
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From what I remember, this site started during Musharraf's time. We discuss military, politics and economics as well as society here. Many of these discussions can be called OSINT. Many can be called restricted or secret. If we are washing our laundry in the public and America plus India and Israel are getting all the secrets, then we need to reconsider. I think it would be better if the owners/Admins showed their cards.
The way it works in Pakistan is foreigners know more about the country than locals. There is no secret about Pakistan that USA doesn't know including about weapons. The chaprasis who subvert their country for a few dollars, what do you think will it take for them to reveal details of missiles, number and location of nukes etc?
 
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I never claimed they will, and whenever they do; it's always westward, never eastward. And if it's never westward, it's always Islamabad or Lahore.

None of them will immigrate to Bangladesh or India.

They love the infrastructure of Punjab despite promoting the slum city countries of India & Bangladesh. Not disrespect to all Indians or like-minded Bangladeshis.

Also not to suggest no all cities in the Punjab are developed. Just Islamabad really and parts of Lahore. Rawalpindi is something in between Lahore and Islamabad.

The rest of Punjab is more or less a slum unless you count privileged areas.



It's not just that, there is a higher obsession in India with Pakistan than vice versa. Much of their identity is built up on a false affiliation with the land of Pakistan and it's ancient inhabitants, the Vedic Aryans.

To many of them it's a delima their country's name comes from a land and people, they perceive to be their enemies. I mean look at this. One of the like-minded ones even acknowledge this:

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Yes, someone used to say that the name Hind comes from the river Sindh. The Arabs or the Iranians used to call people of this area Sindhis which became Hindi over thousands of years.

Being hosted in USA does not mean it is outside army's control. Its the control of domain that matters. Website data can be moved anywhere if hosting account/server is siezed.
I think it the project defence.pk was financed by USA at least in the beginning. I don't know about now.
 
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It is interesting to observe that PDF being hosted or financed by USA is outside the control of the army with most members supporting Imran Khan and cursing Generals and Hafiz. But there seems to be no effort to control PDF by the Army unlike other social media. Does that mean that PDF is outside the control of Army? Or has PDF including its Moderators gone rogue? Another thought that comes to mind is that given the ex-army composition of the members and the general anti-army trend, PDF activities would be on the radar of both ISI and CIA. If that Retired Major Raja on Twitter and Youtube can cause so much trouble for the government, then how much trouble can 40 or 50 ex-army men and another 40 or 50 civilians with a can-do attitude can cause? Your comments welcomed.
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Wdym by endgame?
Like what are you hoping for to come out of it all. I am sure you have some affinity with your old stomping ground :lol:

Or have you completely resigned to fate and are just here for enjoying the misery like the brown house nigg*r who is on PDF (that's a real user, if you don't know. )
 
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Like what are you hoping for to come out of it all. I am sure you have some affinity with your old stomping ground :lol:

Or have you completely resigned to fate and are just here for enjoying the misery like the brown house nigg*r who is on PDF (that's a real user, if you don't know. )

Imran Khan to win a fair election and complete a term. I support PTI.
 
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Imran Khan to win a fair election and complete a term. I support PTI.

That is easier said than done, but IK may just come back to power, the if and when is still not certain. And even if that were to happen somehow, his real test would begin afterwards in the shape of actual policies that he able to implement and the results they deliver, compared to all that he has promised.
 
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Whoever controls PDF, it is still very useful to the faujis. The generals can go to Gordon Wu and say:

“Esteemed Sir, may my mother and father be sacrificed for you, read PDF, for our services to you we are getting maa bhan ki gaalis. Give dollars.”
 
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It is interesting to observe that PDF being hosted or financed by USA is outside the control of the army with most members supporting Imran Khan and cursing Generals and Hafiz. But there seems to be no effort to control PDF by the Army unlike other social media. Does that mean that PDF is outside the control of Army? Or has PDF including its Moderators gone rogue? Another thought that comes to mind is that given the ex-army composition of the members and the general anti-army trend, PDF activities would be on the radar of both ISI and CIA. If that Retired Major Raja on Twitter and Youtube can cause so much trouble for the government, then how much trouble can 40 or 50 ex-army men and another 40 or 50 civilians with a can-do attitude can cause? Your comments welcomed.

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