Pastor Burnson the innocent American priest in Turkey

[DemirkanTR]

Some would consider arresting 100,000 citizens within a few days of the coup attempt,
a coup in itself. There is no way that this can be the result of investigations after the coup.
I do not have any particular fondness for Gülen.
I just note that Erdogan is not really Mr. Clean himself.

There already were investigations about their crimes, which made them hurry up and plot that bloody coup.

If they didn't try it, maybe most of them only would have lost their jobs. But extraordinary situations call for extraordinary measures.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

There already were investigations about their crimes, which made them hurry up and plot that bloody coup.

If they didn't try it, maybe most of them only would have lost their jobs. But extraordinary situations call for extraordinary measures.

Another way of interpreting that is that Erdogan was planning to arrest those 100,000 anyway.
Planning to convict them without proof of anything because they were supporters of his political adversary.
When the Military realized that noone would get a fair trial, they started the coup without any real planning. It is a theory worth investigating, at least.

 

[DemirkanTR]

Another way of interpreting that is that Erdogan was planning to arrest those 100,000 anyway.
Planning to convict them without proof of anything because they were supporters of his political adversary.
When the Military realized that noone would get a fair trial, they started the coup without any real planning. It is a theory worth investigating, at least.

F.ck you, Gulenist bastard!

 

[Super Falcon]

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Another way of interpreting that is that Erdogan was planning to arrest those 100,000 anyway.
Planning to convict them without proof of anything because they were supporters of his political adversary.
When the Military realized that noone would get a fair trial, they started the coup without any real planning. It is a theory worth investigating, at least.

Well keep giving ideas of fake fact is USA had 80 years of puppet show in turkey taking its pirts and its land and bringing one most feared islamic state to be its puppet now they are returning to their past and now USA in panic ploting gulen coup sanction on them because in 2023 west and turkish 100 years treaty will expire than all land will return to usmania turkey and its pirt cutting usa strategic tactic here

 

[Melkor]

Another way of interpreting that is that Erdogan was planning to arrest those 100,000 anyway.
Planning to convict them without proof of anything because they were supporters of his political adversary.
When the Military realized that noone would get a fair trial, they started the coup without any real planning. It is a theory worth investigating, at least.

Why would you start a coup without planning? Are you seeking defeat?

 

[T-Rex]

just look after erdogan wolfowitz connection .. I am shure you will realize that he excactly know who and what gülen was it all was a gamble and game of thrones


edit:
I do not want to break your hopes but muslims do not have a state nor a muslim leadership all is about interest we can say its politics.. if someone plays the muslim card maybe he is conservative but still most politicians will do the best for their own benefits..
if you think a muslim umma will come out of erdogan or any other than you are wrong.. this may come out in the future from the ppl if they want it.. and then I they will be very very little in numbers and maybe called terrorists

You are entitled to your own opinion. I'm not going to seek your destruction just because it does not coincide with mine. Nevertheless, you should know that we are not desperate to shape the future according to our wish. True followers of Islam will forever talk of the ummah, work for the ummah because we won't be asked if we succeeded, we'll be asked if we tried sincerely in the right manner.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

F.ck you, Gulenist bastard!

I guess You believe everyone who does not think Erdogan is the best thing since sliced bread is a Gülenist bastard. What do You think would happen if Erdogan got a fair trial?

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Why would you start a coup without planning? Are you seeking defeat?

I believe that if the Military found out that they were all going to be arrested within a few days, they could try preempting the purge without much planning.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

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Well keep giving ideas of fake fact is USA had 80 years of puppet show in turkey taking its pirts and its land and bringing one most feared islamic state to be its puppet now they are returning to their past and now USA in panic ploting gulen coup sanction on them because in 2023 west and turkish 100 years treaty will expire than all land will return to usmania turkey and its pirt cutting usa strategic tactic here

The treaty of Lausanne from 1923 does not say that any land will be returned to Turkey after 100 years. If you disagree, please name the article which says that

https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Lausanne

 

[Timur]

You are entitled to your own opinion. I'm not going to seek your destruction just because it does not coincide with mine. Nevertheless, you should know that we are not desperate to shape the future according to our wish. True followers of Islam will forever talk of the ummah, work for the ummah because we won't be asked if we succeeded, we'll be asked if we tried sincerely in the right manner.

than you did not understand..
the politicians are commonly the ones who destroy the thought of ummah.. and if you think erdo is someone who is gonna do THE job than you will be disappointed he did many things against ummah and has maybe not the same view of islam and politics as you or me have.. people tend to overhype one person until they get disappointed and then they begin to copy it to a whole society.. I hope he does not dissapoint you to such a degree that you will be disappointed of whole turkey?!

ummah will not come out of those politicians it will be a small groub fighting against the evilness how many ppl do you think will be the army of mahdi? and wich title will they may be given? and ummah will not come out untill ppl leave the love for this world.. the love for BMW, the love for Iphone, the love for Porsche the love for a house of ribbah the love for woman.. today ppl cannot even leave their chai nor do they pray I give you an excample :

15 juli 2017 in turkey.. suddenly ppl went on the streets when I came out of a bath and they begin to celebrate .. they drove up and down the streets with flags and many ppl shouted allau akbar.. sounds nice but in the background there was the adhan and do you think they went to the mosque or prayed all on the streets? no driving up and down and shouting allahu akbar.. a strange world.. the same hapens with palestine issue ppl love to go on the streets and shout something like "israil this that" but in the background they are called to the prayer and almost no one listens.. do you think this ppl would go to palestine to correct the situation? do you think they would leave their warm comfort house with good food for a war that would take them the comfort away? its something to shout on the streets and something bigger to face a real war.. so much for the anti israel statements of erdo and his supporters.. they may have real feelings they may be for palestine but they wont be like some ppl think of

I believe that if the Military found out that they were all going to be arrested within a few days, they could try preempting the purge without much planning.

belive what you want you guys call insane ppl who are on a killing spree a terrorist others have mental issues but if it fits your ideology and your purpose than its a terrorist.. than you come here and have guts to say that they are no terrorists

here your bombs and weapons you denied :

my brother saw wounded ppl in his left and right you should be banned from this section for this filthy hurting statements.. still I think it was not only gülen but many others too from other parties.. just look at chp leaders statements and his celebrations

 

[T-Rex]

than you did not understand..
the politicians are commonly the ones who destroy the thought of ummah.. and if you think erdo is someone who is gonna do THE job than you will be disappointed he did many things against ummah and has maybe not the same view of islam and politics as you or me have.. people tend to overhype one person until they get disappointed and then they begin to copy it to a whole society.. I hope he does not dissapoint you to such a degree that you will be disappointed of whole turkey?!

ummah will not come out of those politicians it will be a small groub fighting against the evilness how many ppl do you think will be the army of mahdi? and wich title will they may be given? and ummah will not come out untill ppl leave the love for this world.. the love for BMW, the love for Iphone, the love for Porsche the love for a house of ribbah the love for woman.. today ppl cannot even leave their chai nor do they pray I give you an excample :

I don't know and don't even try to speculate where the ummah will come from. I keep doing my part which Islam has taught me to do that is recognizing and defending the rights of every human being and trying my best to act as a true Muslim should . I don't worry about Islam because it will be there in every sphere of life whether the zionazis or the atheists like it or not, it is the promise of the Almighty.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

than you did not understand..
the politicians are commonly the ones who destroy the thought of ummah.. and if you think erdo is someone who is gonna do THE job than you will be disappointed he did many things against ummah and has maybe not the same view of islam and politics as you or me have.. people tend to overhype one person until they get disappointed and then they begin to copy it to a whole society.. I hope he does not dissapoint you to such a degree that you will be disappointed of whole turkey?!

ummah will not come out of those politicians it will be a small groub fighting against the evilness how many ppl do you think will be the army of mahdi? and wich title will they may be given? and ummah will not come out untill ppl leave the love for this world.. the love for BMW, the love for Iphone, the love for Porsche the love for a house of ribbah the love for woman.. today ppl cannot even leave their chai nor do they pray I give you an excample :

15 juli 2017 in turkey.. suddenly ppl went on the streets when I came out of a bath and they begin to celebrate .. they drove up and down the streets with flags and many ppl shouted allau akbar.. sounds nice but in the background there was the adhan and do you think they went to the mosque or prayed all on the streets? no driving up and down and shouting allahu akbar.. a strange world.. the same hapens with palestine issue ppl love to go on the streets and shout something like "israil this that" but in the background they are called to the prayer and almost no one listens.. do you think this ppl would go to palestine to correct the situation? do you think they would leave their warm comfort house with good food for a war that would take them the comfort away? its something to shout on the streets and something bigger to face a real war.. so much for the anti israel statements of erdo and his supporters.. they may have real feelings they may be for palestine but they wont be like some ppl think of




belive what you want you guys call insane ppl who are on a killing spree a terrorist others have mental issues but if it fits your ideology and your purpose than its a terrorist.. than you come here and have guts to say that they are no terrorists

here your bombs and weapons you denied :

my brother saw wounded ppl in his left and right you should be banned from this section for this filthy hurting statements.. still I think it was not only gülen but many others too from other parties.. just look at chp leaders statements and his celebrations

I don’t claim that Gülen was behind the coup.
Neither do I claim that Gülen was not behind the coup.
I just see Gülen accused, but as with the Pastor, not a lot of proof has been made public.

Neither do I claim that my theory is correct. I certainly have no proof for it.
Based on what has happened, I just find my theory the most plausible.

As for calling people terrorist, I do not think that terrorism is the correct denomination
of people attempting a coup d’etat. That does not mean that they have not performed crimes.

 

[Rusty]

Off topic:
Seems like our Sweedish friend is very passionate about this subject, but I would just like to point out how little credibility Sweeden has when it comes to fair and transparent justice.
Theses are the same people who made up a story to try and convict Julian Assange after Wikileaks on the behest of the US.

Glass houses and rock and all that.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Off topic:
Seems like our Sweedish friend is very passionate about this subject, but I would just like to point out how little credibility Sweeden has when it comes to fair and transparent justice.
Theses are the same people who made up a story to try and convict Julian Assange after Wikileaks on the behest of the US.

Glass houses and rock and all that.

It is rather Julian Assange that thinks it is legal to be sexual predator in Sweden.
His crime: Having sex without a condom, when the female told him that was mandatory.
That counts as rape in Sweden.

Julian Assange ”believes” he will be extradited and executed, conveniently forgetting that under no circumstances will Sweden extradite someone, if death penalty is a possible punishment.

If the US wanted him, why not ask the British to extradite him?
After all, there is a ”special relation” between the US and Great Britain.

 

[Taskforce]

So sad. Innocent cia priest.