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This is the second time you have engaged me in a conversation and when countered, you come up with silly one-liners instead of replying with detail. Kindly do not engage in a conversation with me again because you cannot keep up with the argument.

Unfortunately, you do not read. If you had you would have found that the post to which you were replying had full information: your post was redundant.

I can't help your comprehension disabilities.

And I do not 'engage' in conversations in all cases, I correct mistakes and I refute falsities. I have no desire to indulge in conversations with the indifferently endowed.
 
Paranoia grips Pakistan :: Indian Arms buying spree unabated
Sunday, October 16, 2016
By: Defence News





The Indian Ministry of Defence (MoD) has mapped out that India needs $233 billion to meet its weapons and equipment requirements in 11 years. This has been calculated according to the Long Term Integrated Perspective Plan (LTIPP) for 2012-2027. The Indian weapon purchases are so massive and diversified that it would require several research papers to explain them.


The following is only a brief attempt in that direction.

According to reports, from 2004 to 2014, 75 percent of all of New Delhi’s weapons imports came from Russia. This is understandable considering the relationship between the two countries and the kind of weapon systems used by India.

From 2009 to 2013, India and Russia struck defence deals of around US$30 billion. On the other hand, during the same period, the Indian government signed contracts worth $30 billion with France and $11 billion with the United States. These were besides what the Indian government had signed with Israel and other countries. This means that in only four years, the Indian government had signed contracts more than US$70 billion with only three countries.

The figures are staggering.

Again, from 2012-2013 to 2014-2015 fiscal years, 162 arms purchase contracts were signed by India, among them 67 with other countries, including Russia (18 agreements), the United States (13) and France (six). The Russian defence deals with India exceeded over $5 billion and with the United States around $4.4 billion.

The kind of weapon systems that India plans to purchase is stupefying and scary.

The Indian Army wants to equip all of its 382 infantry battalions and 44 mechanized infantry units with a fourth-generation shoulder-fired fire and forget anti-tank guided missile (ATGM) system. So India is procuring 321 ‘Spike’ systems, along with 8,356 missiles, from Israel. India is also purchasing one medium-range surface-to-air missile (MRSAM) regiment, composed of 18 firing units, from Israel that is known of manufacturing state-of-the-art weapon systems.

It has been reported that US defense contractor Boeing alone has won bids to supply the Indian military with 10 C-17 Globemaster-III strategic airlift aircraft (worth $4.1 billion), eight P-8I maritime patrol aircraft (worth $2.1. billion), 22 AH-64E Apache, and 15 CH-47F Chinook helicopters (both helicopter deals have a combined worth of $2.5 billion).

Moreover, the French aircraft maker Dassault Aviation has finalised a contract for the sale of 36 Rafale fourth-generation multirole fighter jets to the Indian Air Force at an estimated cost of $9 billion. The European defense contractor EADS will supply six Airbus A330 Multirole Tanker Transport aircraft for the IAF for $1 billion.

India's planned major naval assets include 24 submarines over a period of 30 years. Six Scorpene class are being built at the Mazagaon Docks. All six are expected to join the Indian Navy by 2020. Purchase of six more was cleared in 2015. The next decade will see India fielding 3 Aircraft Carrier Battle Groups effectively enforcing pure dominance in the Indian Ocean Region.

Not to forget is the license production for Kamov 226 helicopters in India, purchase of 145 ultralight howitzer artillery guns from US, purchase of 100 155mm tracked artillery guns, purchase of 280 aero engines from Honeywell for Jaguar aircraft and purchase of five units of Russian-made S-400 advanced air defense systems that can effectively stop all Pakistani ballistic nuclear missiles.


Conclusion ::

Pakistan is insanely worried about the kind of money being thrown around by India for weapon systems which the Islamic Nation of Pakistan cannot possibly match even in their dreams. It has thus resorted to an intensive Proxy War with India confined mainly to the state of Kashmir as it cannot match India man-to-man and penny-to-penny.
http://www.defencenews.in/article/Paranoia-grips-Pakistan--Indian-Arms-buying-spree-unabated-8752


The conclusion part of the above article needs to be taken with a pinch of salt. It is after all from an indian source so the premises is extremely dubious and is in all probability a completely worthless and null and void post.
 
Paranoia grips Pakistan :: Indian Arms buying spree unabated
Sunday, October 16, 2016
By: Defence News





The Indian Ministry of Defence (MoD) has mapped out that India needs $233 billion to meet its weapons and equipment requirements in 11 years. This has been calculated according to the Long Term Integrated Perspective Plan (LTIPP) for 2012-2027. The Indian weapon purchases are so massive and diversified that it would require several research papers to explain them.


The following is only a brief attempt in that direction.

According to reports, from 2004 to 2014, 75 percent of all of New Delhi’s weapons imports came from Russia. This is understandable considering the relationship between the two countries and the kind of weapon systems used by India.

From 2009 to 2013, India and Russia struck defence deals of around US$30 billion. On the other hand, during the same period, the Indian government signed contracts worth $30 billion with France and $11 billion with the United States. These were besides what the Indian government had signed with Israel and other countries. This means that in only four years, the Indian government had signed contracts more than US$70 billion with only three countries.

The figures are staggering.

Again, from 2012-2013 to 2014-2015 fiscal years, 162 arms purchase contracts were signed by India, among them 67 with other countries, including Russia (18 agreements), the United States (13) and France (six). The Russian defence deals with India exceeded over $5 billion and with the United States around $4.4 billion.

The kind of weapon systems that India plans to purchase is stupefying and scary.

The Indian Army wants to equip all of its 382 infantry battalions and 44 mechanized infantry units with a fourth-generation shoulder-fired fire and forget anti-tank guided missile (ATGM) system. So India is procuring 321 ‘Spike’ systems, along with 8,356 missiles, from Israel. India is also purchasing one medium-range surface-to-air missile (MRSAM) regiment, composed of 18 firing units, from Israel that is known of manufacturing state-of-the-art weapon systems.

It has been reported that US defense contractor Boeing alone has won bids to supply the Indian military with 10 C-17 Globemaster-III strategic airlift aircraft (worth $4.1 billion), eight P-8I maritime patrol aircraft (worth $2.1. billion), 22 AH-64E Apache, and 15 CH-47F Chinook helicopters (both helicopter deals have a combined worth of $2.5 billion).

Moreover, the French aircraft maker Dassault Aviation has finalised a contract for the sale of 36 Rafale fourth-generation multirole fighter jets to the Indian Air Force at an estimated cost of $9 billion. The European defense contractor EADS will supply six Airbus A330 Multirole Tanker Transport aircraft for the IAF for $1 billion.

India's planned major naval assets include 24 submarines over a period of 30 years. Six Scorpene class are being built at the Mazagaon Docks. All six are expected to join the Indian Navy by 2020. Purchase of six more was cleared in 2015. The next decade will see India fielding 3 Aircraft Carrier Battle Groups effectively enforcing pure dominance in the Indian Ocean Region.

Not to forget is the license production for Kamov 226 helicopters in India, purchase of 145 ultralight howitzer artillery guns from US, purchase of 100 155mm tracked artillery guns, purchase of 280 aero engines from Honeywell for Jaguar aircraft and purchase of five units of Russian-made S-400 advanced air defense systems that can effectively stop all Pakistani ballistic nuclear missiles.


Conclusion ::

Pakistan is insanely worried about the kind of money being thrown around by India for weapon systems which the Islamic Nation of Pakistan cannot possibly match even in their dreams. It has thus resorted to an intensive Proxy War with India confined mainly to the state of Kashmir as it cannot match India man-to-man and penny-to-penny.
http://www.defencenews.in/article/Paranoia-grips-Pakistan--Indian-Arms-buying-spree-unabated-8752


Indian weapons buying spree is really worrying for Pakistan considering the massive amount India pouring towards upgrading and expending it's cold war era weapons. For Pakistan only solace is this buying is not exclusively targeted towards Pakistan rather for China too. In fact Indian military have to prepared for two flack war in any major out break of hostilities in subcontinent where Pakistan only military threat is India. But what is concerning for Pakistan is as China India both are powerful country would not like engaged in direct war where outcome will not be pleasant for anyone ,so in any limited war like kargil Pakistan have to prepared two face the wrath of Indian military alone.
 
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Don't worry, we are more than capable of bombing India back to the stone age if need be.
 
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Don't worry, we are more than capable of bombing India back to the stone age if need be.
trust me dear had you got that capability there are many in power in pakistan who would have done that at least a deacde or say at least 4 times in last two decades alone but there is a reason they are not and thats not fear of indian response .... rest keep speculating :coffee:
 
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Paranoia grips Pakistan :: Indian Arms buying spree unabated
Sunday, October 16, 2016
By: Defence News





The Indian Ministry of Defence (MoD) has mapped out that India needs $233 billion to meet its weapons and equipment requirements in 11 years. This has been calculated according to the Long Term Integrated Perspective Plan (LTIPP) for 2012-2027. The Indian weapon purchases are so massive and diversified that it would require several research papers to explain them.


The following is only a brief attempt in that direction.

According to reports, from 2004 to 2014, 75 percent of all of New Delhi’s weapons imports came from Russia. This is understandable considering the relationship between the two countries and the kind of weapon systems used by India.

From 2009 to 2013, India and Russia struck defence deals of around US$30 billion. On the other hand, during the same period, the Indian government signed contracts worth $30 billion with France and $11 billion with the United States. These were besides what the Indian government had signed with Israel and other countries. This means that in only four years, the Indian government had signed contracts more than US$70 billion with only three countries.

The figures are staggering.

Again, from 2012-2013 to 2014-2015 fiscal years, 162 arms purchase contracts were signed by India, among them 67 with other countries, including Russia (18 agreements), the United States (13) and France (six). The Russian defence deals with India exceeded over $5 billion and with the United States around $4.4 billion.

The kind of weapon systems that India plans to purchase is stupefying and scary.

The Indian Army wants to equip all of its 382 infantry battalions and 44 mechanized infantry units with a fourth-generation shoulder-fired fire and forget anti-tank guided missile (ATGM) system. So India is procuring 321 ‘Spike’ systems, along with 8,356 missiles, from Israel. India is also purchasing one medium-range surface-to-air missile (MRSAM) regiment, composed of 18 firing units, from Israel that is known of manufacturing state-of-the-art weapon systems.

It has been reported that US defense contractor Boeing alone has won bids to supply the Indian military with 10 C-17 Globemaster-III strategic airlift aircraft (worth $4.1 billion), eight P-8I maritime patrol aircraft (worth $2.1. billion), 22 AH-64E Apache, and 15 CH-47F Chinook helicopters (both helicopter deals have a combined worth of $2.5 billion).

Moreover, the French aircraft maker Dassault Aviation has finalised a contract for the sale of 36 Rafale fourth-generation multirole fighter jets to the Indian Air Force at an estimated cost of $9 billion. The European defense contractor EADS will supply six Airbus A330 Multirole Tanker Transport aircraft for the IAF for $1 billion.

India's planned major naval assets include 24 submarines over a period of 30 years. Six Scorpene class are being built at the Mazagaon Docks. All six are expected to join the Indian Navy by 2020. Purchase of six more was cleared in 2015. The next decade will see India fielding 3 Aircraft Carrier Battle Groups effectively enforcing pure dominance in the Indian Ocean Region.

Not to forget is the license production for Kamov 226 helicopters in India, purchase of 145 ultralight howitzer artillery guns from US, purchase of 100 155mm tracked artillery guns, purchase of 280 aero engines from Honeywell for Jaguar aircraft and purchase of five units of Russian-made S-400 advanced air defense systems that can effectively stop all Pakistani ballistic nuclear missiles.


Conclusion ::

Pakistan is insanely worried about the kind of money being thrown around by India for weapon systems which the Islamic Nation of Pakistan cannot possibly match even in their dreams. It has thus resorted to an intensive Proxy War with India confined mainly to the state of Kashmir as it cannot match India man-to-man and penny-to-penny.
http://www.defencenews.in/article/Paranoia-grips-Pakistan--Indian-Arms-buying-spree-unabated-8752
What? Who cares? Only Indians get paranoid. Pakistanis give a shit to what our eastern neighbors buy. These idiots will still wet their pants due to Pak's scare despite having of arm buying spree.
 
That is the point. That India reacted when 10 million refugees flooded in, and it seemed that they would most of them die. That is when we got serious. Not so Pakistan. She took to the clandestine route long before, and continued. Once again, THAT is the point.

To set up militant training camps along the border is a very strange reaction to receiving 10 million civilians. If you can use refugees to justify your arming of Mukti Bahini terrorists, I don't see why we can't say that the lakhs of Kashmiri Muslims fleeing to Pakistan forced our hand in Kashmir.
 
The Indian Ministry of Defence (MoD) has mapped out that India needs $233 billion to meet its weapons and equipment requirements in 11 years. This has been calculated according to the Long Term Integrated Perspective Plan (LTIPP) for 2012-2027. The Indian weapon purchases are so massive and diversified that it would require several research papers to explain them.

It is all kick back money making schemes..where is India going to war with all these weapons?

To set up militant training camps along the border is a very strange reaction to receiving 10 million civilians. If you can use refugees to justify your arming of Mukti Bahini terrorists, I don't see why we can't say that the lakhs of Kashmiri Muslims fleeing to Pakistan forced our hand in Kashmir.

Using the same logic Indians have no moral justification to raise on arming of Afghan Talibans...or Kashmiri Seperatists...
Next time there are anti-Sikh riots in East Punjab...open the Wahgah pass and send all the Sikhs back with training and arms as well...


Indians have a dual set of morals..one for self and one for others..good for us that Modi jee is turning overseas indians into aggressive obsessive scum..the arabs are getting annoyed by them...the result is ever shrinking preference to hire Indians..in last few months there is marked increase in the number of phone calls i will not answer from Indian customers..i call it "supah powah" syndrome...
 
Paranoia is when a big country like India gets up even if a small country like Pakistan buys Chinese aircraft.

Whereas when a big warmonger country like India becomes the biggest buyer of the weapons in the world, it is bound to worry small countries.
 
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Don't worry, we are more than capable of bombing India back to the stone age if need be.

What is stopping you?? What we are talking about is conventional warfare not nuclear theater.
 
Why not pakistan sell nuclear technology and missiles to turkey , saudia , dubai , Qatar ,officially. Money is the only problem for pakistan now , whole world is selling weapons to India and pakistan have every right to sell what we have in our pockets ,
2nd option is to wait for CPEC to get matured, focus spacialy on its sacurity , as much sacuried it will be as much it will gain the investors attraction
 
What is stopping you?? What we are talking about is conventional warfare not nuclear theater.
As much bigger indias conventional power will be, for them as much bigger nuclear threat will be
 
To set up militant training camps along the border is a very strange reaction to receiving 10 million civilians. If you can use refugees to justify your arming of Mukti Bahini terrorists, I don't see why we can't say that the lakhs of Kashmiri Muslims fleeing to Pakistan forced our hand in Kashmir.

Do you need an excuse to start a fight?? I don't think so. But you should be ready to face the consequences of your actions.

As much bigger indias conventional power will be, for them as much bigger nuclear threat will be

Well you have to understand our defence preparedness has to stand up for our bigger neighbour China. Pakistan concerns and fears come second and are incidental.
 
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