Panetta-Shujja Fight becomes more heated

[S.M.R]

ISI which is one of the largest intelligence agency in the world with over 10,000 agents cannot monitor visas issued for foreigners. Unbelievable!!!

Surely it can, however the visas issued directly in US were not brought into knowledge of ISI.

 

[Vassnti]

The real war here is between the ISI and the CIA
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I foresee the sustained and continued deterioration of relations between the two spy agencies which will ultimately lead to the ISI telling the CIA to OFF in very public manner.

ROFL, may be when some one in the ISI understands that the people setting off bombs in Mosques, schools and markets are the enemy rather than the CIA things will settle down, after all if all those resources used chasing people like Davis had been used chasing people like osama may be you would have found him before the yanks did.

 

[S.M.R]

Where as ISI? its a sad but a reality that all these CIA operatives were allowed with consent of all quarters i.e Govt, agencies and army.


One wonders what is stopping us from sacking Hussain haqqani who is damaging Pakistan more than any american

I was reading somewhere today, that he is trying his best to clarify the position of Pakistan on OBL operation. Lolz.

 

[mikkix]

ISI should know where the operatives of CIA in pakistan, they did and do know where there wherebouts in middle east but dont know where are they in Pakistan...A big mistake...

 

[pakdefender]

ROFL, may be when some one in the ISI understands that the people setting off bombs in Mosques, schools and markets are the enemy rather than the CIA things will settle down, after all if all those resources used chasing people like Davis had been used chasing people like osama may be you would have found him before the yanks did.

People within the ISI understand fully well that the ones exploding bombs in Pakistan are the enemies that’s why the CIA and it associates are in the cross hairs

The dirty dealing of the CIA are well knows , look at this booklet that was air dropped by the CIA in Nicragua:

ebook - CIA-The Freedom Fighter's Manual

The CIA has a criminal record and they have conviction from the international court of justice, it would be extremely unwise on part of any Intel agency to not run a counter-Intel operation against these guys

 

[S.M.R]

Questiong the validity or legitimacy of the raid will in no way disprove that the honorable and precious mr. Laden was shot and killed next to the pma bang in the the middle of the country. How will cursing zardari or gilani or adulating kiyanai or pasha help it, the guy got shot right there in pak territory and people got caight with pants down!

No one is questioning the validity / legitimacy of the raid, we are just questioning the claim (verbal) that Lord Osama has been killed there. They just got a phone a call that Osama is hiding in house no. so and so in abbottabad, they came shot him dead, took his body away, without showing it to anyone, thrown that away in deep sea, makes the whole thing more fake, just look at the timings, Mr. davis goes back to US, more than 400 CIA agents are forced to leave Pakistan, therafter wikileaks comes on screen, declares ISI in the list of terrorist organizations, now this OBL scene.
This clearly shows what is going between ISI and CIA.

Some people think that this drama has been played for Obama's victory in next elections,
But i think, besides other objectives, this drama is also to trap obama so he could get into next elections.

 

[Mutee]

If it's a fight just admit CIA made them look like a bunch of amateurs but I won't call it a fight because a fight is when two equals compete against eachother which is not the case here all isi can Sonia brag and spread false stories but when the time comes u all know what they do and don't put blame on civilians they are just croupt but it wasn't their job it was armys job which it didn't do like always

 

[Developereo]

The order was given by who?

1.Pakistan Govt aka Zardari/ Geelani- which anyone with a sane mind is not going to believe.

Gilani authorized Haqqani to issue visas directly after the latter complained that ISI was slowing down visa issuance to Americans.
Haqqani is more loyal to America than to Pakistan.

That doesnt mean the ISI will not keep tabs on the shady characters and their movements. If they had kept any tabs they could have caught someone red-handed and sent them to home declaring them persona-non grata.

How can the ISI know which characters are shady if they are not involved in the process to begin with?

And Paladin was not expressing doubts - he was damn certain.

He was expressing his opinion. He is not an ISI agent or government spokesman. That thread was some time back, before the story became big in Pakistan during Raymond Davis.