Panama leak Case Proceedings - JIT Report, News, Updates And Discussion

[PakSword]

Abb to migration be nahi hoti, countries like Canada are out of question. Dont know about Australia.

I have already got Australian...

But haven't yet decided to migrate... Want to take some more time.. I wish, I can settle in my country after retirement without any fear of injustice...

 

[Farah Sohail]

Can you update as to what has changed now that makes you feel this way? I wasnt following the case regularly and what is this about forming a commission and giving a new life to PM by PTI?

Today's hearing was going in right direction..judges were pointing out weaknesses in PM defense....nawaz Sharif's lawyer said tht we cant show money trail for flats...but then at the end of hearing...judges asked all parties, whether they want commission to be formed... (Dont know why...when all points were going against Nawaz sharif) Nawaz sharif lawyer, understandably said...they want commission... PTI, which until yesterday, said in court, they dont want commission and wnat judges to decide, this case..has now taken 2 days time to decide..and Shah mehmood has hinted now..tht they might go for commission..which means..case will drag on..and on and then most likely a clean chit to Nawaz Sharif

 

[Panther 57]

I have already got Australian...

But haven't yet decided to migrate... Want to take some more time.. I wish, I can settle in my country after retirement without any fear of injustice...

I fear for situation like what you see in movie "Hotel Rawanda" and french revolution.

 

[Farah Sohail]

Can you update as to what has changed now that makes you feel this way? I wasnt following the case regularly and what is this about forming a commission and giving a new life to PM by PTI?

Today's hearing was going in right direction..judges were pointing out weaknesses in PM defense....nawaz Sharif's lawyer said tht we cant show money trail for flats...but then at the end of hearing...judges asked all parties, whether they want commission to be formed... (Dont know why...when all points were going against Nawaz sharif) Nawaz sharif lawyer, understandably said...they want commission... PTI, which until yesterday, said in court, they dont want commission and wnat judges to decide, this case..has now taken 2 days time to decide..and Shah mehmood has hinted now..tht they might go for commission..which means..case will drag on..and on and then most likely a clean chit to Nawaz Sharif

 

[PakSword]

I fear for situation like what you see in movie "Hotel Rawanda" and french revolution.

No sir.. I my old neighborhood, 50% of people were involved in theft of electricity.

I reported all of them one day. No action was taken by KESC (it was government org at that time). Then I sent another anonymous email with evidences of theft and copied everyone, including CC Karachi, governor, CM sindh etc etc..

Within 5 hours, there was a raid by KESC team with police. Everyone was charged, and then after maybe six months, they all started with the help of meter reader.

I think people revolt when they are themselves clean. Most of us are corrupt unfortunately. The rest do not get opportunity. So you can't expect good from bad..

 

[IceCold]

I have already got Australian...

To be honest you should avail the opportunity. I have seen people regretting couple of years latter.

 

[Panther 57]

I think people revolt when they are themselves clean. Most of us are corrupt unfortunately. The rest do not get opportunity. So you can't expect good from bad..

This is the key cause of our downfall. We do corruption at our own level. If you talk of Karachi, just see how foot paths are being encroached and if someone objects - Ghunda gardi. It is a sight worth seeing when someone driving wrong sides curses the person driving correct for not giving way. Lol. That is why I said Hotel Rwanda

 

[PakSword]

To be honest you should avail the opportunity. I have seen people regretting couple of years latter.

My father didn't avail the US in 90s. For the same reason, I left UK HSMP in 2009, and now I have time till 2019 to reach there or lose it.

Don't know man! I love Pakistan. But nothing is happening.

You know, my colleagues say that if IK asks for money to get the original docs, they are ready to sacrifice their salaries. Just ask for it man!

When he asked Rs 100 for lock down, many people here transferred 500-1000 AED. We all want some result of this struggle against corruption. But what can one do if general public is also corrupt?

 

[IceCold]

Today's hearing was going in right direction..judges were pointing out weaknesses in PM defense....nawaz Sharif's lawyer said tht we cant show money trail for flats...but then at the end of hearing...judges asked all parties, whether they want commission to be formed... (Dont know why...when all points were going against Nawaz sharif) Nawaz sharif lawyer, understandably said...they want commission... PTI, which until yesterday, said in court, they dont want commission and wnat judges to decide, this case..has now taken 2 days time to decide..and Shah mehmood has hinted now..tht they might go for commission..which means..case will drag on..and on and then most likely a clean chit to Nawaz Sharif

I dont think PTI can make this decision alone as there are other stake holders as well most notably Sheikh Rasheed. JI on the other hand wants a commission but they are nobody when it comes to cases against Sharifs. PTI and SR will matter. PTI has this one last chance to get this PM acquitted something they have been trying for last 3 years if we consider dhandli scandal. I doubt if they are going to make a stupid decision now. Similarly dragging the case helps PM and not PTI so i doubt they will go for it without taking everything into consideration.

 

[Panther 57]

My father didn't avail the US in 90s. For the same reason, I left UK HSMP in 2009, and now I have time till 2019 to reach there or lose it.

Don't know man! I love Pakistan. But nothing is happening.

You know, my colleagues say that if IK asks for money to get the original docs, they are ready to sacrifice their salaries. Just ask for it man!

When he asked Rs 100 for lock down, many people here transferred 500-1000 AED. We all want some result of this struggle against corruption. But what can one do if general public is also corrupt?

Running away from circumstances is not the solution. Solution lies in standing up against corruption. And only way corruption at all level is only through self correction. Each individual corrects himself, irrespective of what others are doing follow traffic rules. Irrespective of what your neighbour is doing, remove own encroachment. Irrespective how people around are behaving make a que. etc etc etc. Things will automatically improve. Youngsters are very active on social media, run campaigns to make people aware and disciplined. If social media can create Tahrir square why can this be done.

 

[Mansoon]

Unfortunately, I also think that even if commission is formed, UAE, UK, KSA and Qatar will say that they don't keep record of 30 years of transactions.

SO what? burden of proof is on nawaz sharif not pti

 

[Farah Sohail]

I dont think PTI can make this decision alone as there are other stake holders as well most notably Sheikh Rasheed. JI on the other hand wants a commission but they are nobody when it comes to cases against Sharifs. PTI and SR will matter. PTI has this one last chance to get this PM acquitted something they have been trying for last 3 years if we consider dhandli scandal. I doubt if they are going to make a stupid decision now. Similarly dragging the case helps PM and not PTI so i doubt they will go for it without taking everything into consideration.

But Shah Mahmood has hinted tht they want one member judicial commission.. Sheikh Rashid is very clear, he has said in court too, tht he doesnt want judicial commission...but going by Shah Mahmood's statement, even if its not formal decision..means they are thinking to go for commission.. U can expect anything from PTI.. They will make most stupid decisions at most crucial times

 

[PakSword]

SO what? burden of proof is on nawaz sharif not pti

They will say they are ready to cooperate.. But what can they do if the record is not there in the institutions?

 

[I.R.A]

If you want to stay in Pakistan, stop being nice to idiots in your normal life. Start resisting unethical practices that have become norm of this society, be vocal, make a scene every time an idiot specially a sarkari idiot tries to play foul. Raise your voice to be heard clearly. And stop asking favors or opting shortcuts.

Sadly the evil in this society doesn't face any resistance so it gets away with it easily.

 

[Rank]

PTI Shit! .... why asking 1 day time for discussion on commission ? simply Boycott comission... cuz PMLN want that to get CLEAN CHIT like they're getting from every single commission....