Panama leak Case Proceedings - JIT Report, News, Updates And Discussion

[Imad.Khan]

I am not sure ... but there is more here than fan boy interpertation of financial laws...

For instance ... if a 20 year old child of a govt officer starts selling drugs without his fathers knowledge and makes 100 million pkr in a year....

Accotding to what i understand from pak sword and you guys... that his father can be asked to give receipts of income.. failing which father should be jailed...

Does not sound right at all....

Fan boy interpretation...........you got to be a brain dead zombie to not understand these basic laws

Making/Selling/consuming/transporting drugs is a criminal offence and as such the suspect will be tried under criminal laws.

 

[PakSword]

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Yeh Asad Kharal ne PDF pe meri posts leak kardi hain judgement samajh ke.. lollll...

Mujhay lagta hai yeh journos PDF ki posts parhtay hain.. I have noticed buhat si baatain aur "assumptions" jo hum log yahan discuss kartay hain, 2 din baad kisi talk show main exactly wohi discuss horaha hota hai..

Chakkar samajhna parega agar aisa nahi hai tou.. Kuch members yahan yaqeenan inn journos main se hain..

 

[Mrc]

Fan boy interpretation...........you got to be a brain dead zombie to not understand these basic laws

Making/Selling/consuming/transporting drugs is a criminal offence and as such the suspect will be tried under criminal laws.

Oh zombie bhai... meri tarf say goli mar do dealer ko.. us k baap ko kis qanoon k tahat tango gay... just caz ik says so??

 

[PakSword]

Fan boy interpretation...........you got to be a brain dead zombie to not understand these basic laws

Making/Selling/consuming/transporting drugs is a criminal offence and as such the suspect will be tried under criminal laws.

If son tells the court the real source of 52 crore and flats (that he has earned from drug smuggling), father will be acquitted. Don't know why he is not telling the source..

I suspect 52 crore was transferred to the son from PMs hidden businesses in India.. Then the son sent it back to father. Then father wanted to buy some property.. So he gifted this money to his daughter, in order for her to buy on his behalf.. Daughter wanted to save some tax, so she declared herself as dependent on her father.. Anyway, she purchased the property and gifted to her father..

Money earned in India (or elsewhere, we still don't know where) ended up with Mian Muhammad Nawaz Shareef in the form of a property gifted by his daughter and zero tax was paid as the money was not an income... it was all gifts from son to father to daughter back to father..

wooofffff...

Oh zombie bhai... meri tarf say goli mar do dealer ko.. us k baap ko kis qanoon k tahat tango gay... just caz ik says so??

Yaar beta bata de naa ke drugs se kamaey hain paisay.. bata kyun nahi raha 52 crore kahan se aaye? Judges bhi sawal pooch pooch kar thak gaey... hum bhi intezaar main baithay hain..

Mere dost, public office holders ki investigation different tareeqay se hoti hai.. agar unn ke relatives ke paas achanak buhat si daulat nikal aaye, aur relatives source na bata sakain uss daulat ki, tou public office holder pe seedha ilzaam lagta hai "bribery", "commission", "ikhtiaraat ka na jaiz istemaal".

Agar source pata chal jaey relatives ki, tou koi baat nahi, baap ko koi nahi chherta.. chahay source drug dealing hi kyun na ho..

Catch here is "Public Office Holder".

In other cases involving non public office holders, jis ke paas se daulat niklay wohi pakra jata hai..

 

[Farah Sohail]

Yeh Asad Kharal ne PDF pe meri posts leak kardi hain judgement samajh ke.. lollll...

Mujhay lagta hai yeh journos PDF ki posts parhtay hain.. I have noticed buhat si baatain aur "assumptions" jo hum log yahan discuss kartay hain, 2 din baad kisi talk show main exactly wohi discuss horaha hota hai..

Chakkar samajhna parega agar aisa nahi hai tou.. Kuch members yahan yaqeenan inn journos main se hain..

Lollll... Yahan kuch members inn journos main se hain????? Kon hosakta hai? Main itna bataa sakti hun ke atleast main nahi hun

 

[Mrc]

If son tells the court the real source of 52 crore and flats (that he has earned from drug smuggling), father will be acquitted. Don't know why he is not telling the source..

I suspect 52 crore was transferred to the son from PMs hidden businesses in India.. Then the son sent it back to father. Then father wanted to buy some property.. So he gifted this money to his daughter, in order for her to buy on his behalf.. Daughter wanted to save some tax, so she declared herself as dependent on her father.. Anyway, she purchased the property and gifted to her father..

Money earned in India (or elsewhere, we still don't know where) ended up with Mian Muhammad Nawaz Shareef in the form of a property gifted by his daughter and zero tax was paid as the money was not an income... it was all gifts from son to father to daughter back to father..

wooofffff...



Yaar beta bata de naa ke drugs se kamaey hain paisay.. bata kyun nahi raha 52 crore kahan se aaye? Judges bhi sawal pooch pooch kar thak gaey... hum bhi intezaar main baithay hain..

Mere dost, public office holders ki investigation different tareeqay se hoti hai.. agar unn ke relatives ke paas achanak buhat si daulat nikal aaye, aur relatives source na bata sakain uss daulat ki, tou public office holder pe seedha ilzaam lagta hai "bribery", "commission", "ikhtiaraat ka na jaiz istemaal".

Agar source pata chal jaey relatives ki, tou koi baat nahi, baap ko koi nahi chherta.. chahay source drug dealing hi kyun na ho..

Catch here is "Public Office Holder".

In other cases involving non public office holders, jis ke paas se daulat niklay wohi pakra jata hai..

Aitzaz ahsan knows more than us.... despite my personal dislike for him he is a competent lawyer and ardent enemy if sharifs

 

[Imad.Khan]

Oh zombie bhai... meri tarf say goli mar do dealer ko.. us k baap ko kis qanoon k tahat tango gay... just caz ik says so??

seriously? what is your education level? you can't blame IK for all the ills that baboon leadership is involved in.

If the son was involved in either making/selling/consuming illicit drugs, then the son would be prosecuted. The father will only be charged if its proven that he either aided and abetted his son in either making/selling/transporting/consuming illicit drugs, which are a criminal offence.

 

[Mrc]

seriously? what is your education level? you can't blame IK for all the ills that baboon leadership is involved it.

If the son was involved in either making/selling/consuming illicit drugs, then the son would be prosecuted. The father will only be charged if its proven that he either aided and abetted his son in either making/selling/transporting/consuming illicit drugs, which are a criminal offence.

I m a post grad earning more in a month than many earn in a life time....

I m trying to understand 2 things hereò6

Pakistani nab ordinance...which seems personification of draconian law..

And all the fan fare here

Regards

 

[PakSword]

Aitzaz ahsan knows more than us.... despite my personal dislike for him he is al competent lawyer and ardent ebemy if sharifs

Aap bilkul sahi farma rahay ho mere dost.. Saza usi waqt milti hai, jab investigation hoti hai.. No one is saying that investigation has been completed. It was an inquiry rather than an investigation.

Mera bhi yehi khayal hai ke NS ko abhi saza nahi milegi because evidence recording nahi huee hai.. Doosray members ka bhi yehi khayal hai, lekin yahan behes horahi hai 62/ 63 ki.. Main keh raha hun ke 62/ 63 par bhi abhi saza nahi hogi kyun ke yeh nahi pata ke PM ne jhoot bola ya uss ke bachon ne bola.. kuchh log leh rahay hain ke PM ko 62 63 pe saza hojaegi kyun ke na sirf uss ki aur uss ki aulaad ki taqreeron main tazaad hai, balkay uss ki apni do taqreerain bhi aapas main nahi milteen.

Yahan aap ko aik baar phir keh raha hun... abhi corruption par tou saza ki baat ho hi nahi rahi.. woh tou buhat baad ka masla hai.. iss thread par hum log 62/ 63 pe disqualification, ya independent investigation ke liey PM ki suspension ke options discuss kar rahay hain..

Yaar aap ko samjhana kafi mushkil kaam hai, lagta hai aap thread sahi se follow nahi kar rahay...

 

[IceCold]

just got off the phone with one of the honorable judges and forwarded your message. he said sanu key.

It appears so. Sanu ki otherwise I don't see any other reason. Those saying 23 march, why should a corrupt moron be allowed to represent Pakistan and specially when it's related to armed forces of Pakistan that he despises so much.
@Farah Sohail

 

[Arsalan]

@Mrc i have been following your posts for last two pages now, it seems you have been going around in circles. It seems as if @PakSword have done everything to explain the situation to you. Also as per some of your posts, you did got the point and understood what he is explaining to you and admitted that the info was new to you, which is really good. However what is worrying is that just after a couple of posts you are back to square one! Thus the statement about "going around in circle".

If there are any genuine questions, confusion about something or if there is something you want to know about, please share it here so someone can help you. Else there is absolutely no point is repeating the same points over and over and over and over again just because you do not want to get them right. Everything have been explained properly, you have admitted that you got the point, spare us the same futile exercise again. PLEASE!!

 

[PakSword]

Lollll... Yahan kuch members inn journos main se hain????? Kon hosakta hai? Main itna bataa sakti hun ke atleast main nahi hun

Main sahi bata raha hun.. main ne kuchh baar note kia tha yeh, aik baar socha ke discuss bhi karun.. main ne koi as usual "assumption" lagai thi aur do din baad exactly wohi sab kuch aik talk show main kaha gaya..

Aik baar main ne likha ke "Hashar ka sa samaan hai, baap betey ko, beta baap ko, aur beti kabhi apnay baap ko aur kabhi apney shohar ko pehchannay se inkari hai"

usi shaam Shahid Masood ne exactly yehi baat ki (main unn ka program tou nahi dekhta short clip dekha tha bass), aur doosray din Arshad Sharif ne..

Isi tarha kuchh doosray members bhi yahan jo baatain kartay hain, main aksar short clips main dekhta hun ke wohi baatain horahi hain..

Chakkar kuchh samajh nahi aaya..

@Mrc i have been following your posts for last two pages now, it seems you have been going around in circles. It seems as if @PakSword have done everything to explain the situation to you. Also as per some of your posts, you did got the point and understood what he is explaining to you and admitted that the info was new to you, which is really good. However what is worrying is that just after a couple of posts you are back to square one! Thus the statement about "going around in circle".

If there are any genuine questions, confusion about something or if there is something you want to know about, please share it here so someone can help you. Else there is absolutely no point is repeating the same points over and over and over and over again just because you do not want to get them right. Everything have been explained properly, you have admitted that you got the point, spare us the same futile exercise again. PLEASE!!

Yaar Arsalan bhai,,, Aap ke ghar Nihari bhejnay ko dil kar raha hai..

Those saying 23 march, why should a corrupt moron be allowed to represent Pakistan and specially when it's related to armed forces of Pakistan that he despises so much.

Yaar mera bhi yehi point hai.. Chahay aasmaan gir jaey, ya zameen phat jaey, judgement tou waqt pe hi aana chahiey.. Jo log mukhtalif heelay bahanon ki wajah se judgement delay kartay hain, woh munsif kehlanay ke laiq nahi hain..

 

[Mrc]

@Mrc i have been following your posts for last two pages now, it seems you have been going around in circles. It seems as if @PakSword have done everything to explain the situation to you. Also as per some of your posts, you did got the point and understood what he is explaining to you and admitted that the info was new to you, which is really good. However what is worrying is that just after a couple of posts you are back to square one! Thus the statement about "going around in circle".

If there are any genuine questions, confusion about something or if there is something you want to know about, please share it here so someone can help you. Else there is absolutely no point is repeating the same points over and over and over and over again just because you do not want to get them right. Everything have been explained properly, you have admitted that you got the point, spare us the same futile exercise again. PLEASE!!

Question is genuine... u guys are saying law in pakistan states that u can hang father of culprit with culprit and to top that of its fathers responsibility to provide proofs...

Its absurd and u will see that in supreme court decision...thanks and out

 

[Arsalan]

Yaar Arsalan bhai,,, Aap ke ghar Nihari bhejnay ko dil kar raha hai..

Just doing what is right!!

@Mrc is one of those reasonable members we have on-board. I was happy when i saw him openly admitting that he was not aware of the law related to burden of proof and also when he mentioned that he have got the point now. Only if more of us can realize that the only positive reason to be here on the forum is the learn something!!

It was a bit surprising when he went the whole way back to the point where it all started. The case and the explanation you made are crystal clear. No ambiguity, no confusion and thus no need to bring is some drug dealer and his father etc!!! The point have been made and understood as confirmed by @Mrc himself so let us all move on.

However if there are any genuine confusion or questions then yes, you can always tag the members here and discuss it will them @Mrc . Just try to avoid going over the same things again and again.

Have a nice day both of you.


P.S. will send my address to you in private message @PakSword

 

[Farah Sohail]

It appears so. Sanu ki otherwise I don't see any other reason. Those saying 23 march, why should a corrupt moron be allowed to represent Pakistan and specially when it's related to armed forces of Pakistan that he despises so much.
@Farah Sohail

You are right... Mujhe khud nahi samajh aaraha hai ke 23rd March ka kiun wait kya jaaraha hai?aur iski kia zuroorat thee? Lekin lagta kuch aisa hi hai..ke iska hi wait kiya jaaraha hai ab logic kia hai? Ye tu pata nahi...lekin aisa lagta hai ke humein 23rd March ke guzarnay ka intezar karna hi paray ga Har saal 23rd March ki excitement hoti thee....is dafa ghussa aaraha hai, 23rd March ka soch kar, ke iski wajah se delay horaha hai, faisla
Lekin jaisay Kal yahan kaha gaya tha..ke chalo thora wait kar letay hain..bas faisla acha hona chahye

@PakSword aaj Ch nisar ne bhi admit kar liya, press conference main...ke mujhe bataya gaya hai ke dawn leaks ki committee main kuch ikhtelaaf hai... Humaray pass report aayi tu govt ko bhejein ge ..abhi interior ministry ko nahi mili

Main ne abhi ek channel par ticker dekha..