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Kherr....itna tu mujhe yaqeen hai ke zjustice Khosa aisi kisi deal ka hissa nahi banein ge... He will decide case on merit InshaAllah.. Is verdict main delay tu hosakta hai, lekin Nawaz Sharif ko clean chit nahi milay hi, InshalAllah... Thts not possible
App na nook kya par lia Justice Khosa na to jaisa jadoo ker dia lol. Meri aik suggestion ha app ko or woh yeh kah apna mind ko her kisim ka faisla ka lia tayar rakhin keeping the history of our courts in mind. Also aik banda sa itni umeed theak nahi. Allah kera jo app kah rahi hain woh theak ho per still because agar aisa na hua to disappointment utni he bari ho gi.

Bhai yeh be cyber crime main na ahh jai, un ki marzi ka bagir Baadsha salamat or un ki beti ki tasweer laga raha hain.
 
App na nook kya par lia Justice Khosa na to jaisa jadoo ker dia lol. Meri aik suggestion ha app ko or woh yeh kah apna mind ko her kisim ka faisla ka lia tayar rakhin keeping the history of our courts in mind. Also aik banda sa itni umeed theak nahi. Allah kera jo app kah rahi hain woh theak ho per still because agar aisa na hua to disappointment utni he bari ho gi.

@bold... :lol::lol::lol: Lolllll.... Pata nahi kiun? Lekin mujhe unn par kuch bharosaa sa hogaya hai... Ke woh sahi aadmi hain... .. Ab agar bharosa toot gaya..baad main...tu jahan pehle itni baar bharosa toot chuka hai, wahan ek baar aur sahi :( :( lekin filhaal tu mujhe unn se achi hi umeed hai :( i hope ke verdict k baad bhi mera bharosa unn par qaym rahay.. Yehi Pakistan k liye acha hai.. Aur agar nahi...tu kia karsaktay hain? :( duaa tu yehi hai, ke iss baar bharosa na tootay...
 

Kaheen aisa tou nahi aik taraf IK ko chhora aur doosri taraf MNS ko chornay ki tayyari?

@Farah Sohail @Arsalan

Waisay aik ke baad aik faislay MNS ke khilaaf kaisay aanay lagay..

This whole 3 minutes was blaming some power for 'making IK escape' ... all the randi rona about IHC not taking up the case and then taking it up ... PMLN lot have no choice now it seems to openly blame the establishment and judiciary for siding with IK.
 
an interesting article i came across so thought of sharing it with members here !!

Nawaz Sharif's Lies to the Nation about Ittefaq Foundries - Gen. Zia's Minister Lt-Gen Saeed Qadir reveals the truth - (with thanks to Nizami Khaled)
Being forwarded as received.

Panama Leaks.

Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif lied to the Nation yesterday about Ittefaq Foundary. Here is an eye witness account. The main actor Lt Gen R Saeed Qadir who was then Minister in Zia's cabinet is still alive. Sharif Family benefited by Rs. 800,000,000/ way back in 1979 and also fired 2000 workers. We need forensic auditors and not Judicial Commission.

"We had read that the original Ittefaq Foundry, which was nationalized by Bhutto had been privatized and handed over back to the family. It did not occur then, as to why only this particular industry was handed back and that if the Military Government had made a policy to denationalize all the assets taken over by the previous Government or that it was purely an exception. I was to soon find that out!

My father in-law brought his first cousin Mr C.M.Latif to meet with me and to see if I could possibly help him. He was the owner of Batala Engineering Company (Commonally called BECO) and the same had also been nationalized by Bhutto regime. He wanted me to request Lieutenant General Saeed Qadir to privatize the same as they had done in the case of Itehfaq Foundry. I promised to help.

The next day I went to see Lieutenant General Saeed Qadir and placed the request before him. He told me that BECO had piled up losses worth Rupees Forty Crores and that C.M. Latif should accept those. He also told me that that BECO had a work force of 2,000 workers which also be retained by the company as he will not retrench any worker. If the management would agree to these conditions, he will be willing to privatize the Company.

In the evening I called up Mr C.M.Latif and told him of my earlier discussions at GHQ. He had a big laugh and said, “Brigadier Sahib, Saeed Qadir has made a big fool out of you.” I was very upset at that and asked him to explain the point. He asked me if I knew the terms and conditions on which Ittefaq Foundry had been de-nationalized. I told him no. His answer was I will tell you that. While elaborating that, he told me, “They also had losses of Rupees Forty Crores and a work force of 2,000 workers. And in their case the Government has written off the total losses and has retrenched the entire work force and has given back the Company free of any encumbrances. To crown it they have been provided a grant of Rupees Forty Crores.”

I was completely taken aback by those clarifications. In rage I went back to the office of Lieutenant General Saeed Qadir the very next day. I strongly protested at the answer that he had given to me on the privatizing of BECO the previous day. I was clamoring as to why these different policies and as to why does he not have one uniform standard approach. His reply was, “Why are you fighting with me? Why don’t you tell C.M.Latif to send his son-in-law, Ambassador Waheed who is the first cousin of both General Zia and his wife, and ask Gen Zia to give me instructions that I should offer the same terms and conditions as I have allowed Ittefaq Foundries? Without that how do you expect that I can allow these terms and conditions to BECO on my own?”

It explained everything. A special favour had been done to the Sharif family for a special cause and purpose! This special concession, which is plain and simple graft, they further exploited by using their positions as Chief Minister Punjab and even as Prime Minister. There were no end and limits to their greed and it is in knowledge of all as to how business was secured for their Foundries defying all rules and regulations.

Now, they loot all the money and launder it abroad and tell the world that it is their legitimate investment from work abroad. Who can ever believe that?"
Posted on Apr 11, 16

@PakSword @Farah Sohail @war&peace @Doordie @Emmie
 
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on April 11, 2016 after Nawaz Shareef's very first address to nation over panama scandal !!
Thank you bro..I have a short allocation of memory for Pakistani politics as is the case with the whole nation...we forget.. but Thanks to "miscreants" like IK, the issue is not only alive but it is destined to reach the logical end... so salute to IK for his resolute determination.
 
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Waisy aaj Shahid Masood ne ek baat ki...jo aaj unki baat kuch theek lagi... Even Rauf Klasra said something similar..
Shahd Masood said tht ECP dismissed IK and Jehangir Tareen's petition on technical grounds tht this petition is not maintanable.. Shayd ye ke election ke 90 days ke andar laani chahye thee...whatever,,this petition was dismissed on technical grounds.. So he says tht EC has done this thing preemptively...ke agar panama case main judges article 62/63 par koi declaration de dete hain, aur phir PTI Nawaz Sharif k against ECP main jati hai, tu ECP woh petition bhi technical grounds par dismiss kar dey...and then IK will not be able to make any noise on it... Ke us bunyaad par hi ECP ne IK ke against petition dismiss ki thee, aur usay IK ne haq aur sach ki fatah qarar diya tha......this theory makes some sense... Rauf Klasra bhi is se milti julti baat karrahay thay

What do u say, ppl?
@PakSword @IceCold @Arsalan
 
Waisy aaj Shahid Masood ne ek baat ki...jo aaj unki baat kuch theek lagi... Even Rauf Klasra said something similar..
Shahd Masood said tht ECP dismissed IK and Jehangir Tareen's petition on technical grounds tht this petition is not maintanable.. Shayd ye ke election ke 90 days ke andar laani chahye thee...whatever,,this petition was dismissed on technical grounds.. So he says tht EC has done this thing preemptively...ke agar panama case main judges article 62/63 par koi declaration de dete hain, aur phir PTI Nawaz Sharif k against ECP main jati hai, tu ECP woh petition bhi technical grounds par dismiss kar dey...and then IK will not be able to make any noise on it... Ke us bunyaad par hi ECP ne IK ke against petition dismiss ki thee, aur usay IK ne haq aur sach ki fatah qarar diya tha......this theory makes some sense... Rauf Klasra bhi is se milti julti baat karrahay thay

What do u say, ppl?
@PakSword @IceCold @Arsalan
Well there will be a stark difference between the two cases... this will be the new evidence based on the SC's verdict while there is no verdict against IK.. Furthermore, even if NS completes in the worst case, he won't be elected again the PM because he will be disqualified anyway but more important is the verdict against the bubble butt, if she gets disqualified that NS family is done as both of his sons are not even citizens of Pakistan (a big slap on the ugly faces of patwaris who claim IK to be yahoodi agent)
 
Waisy aaj Shahid Masood ne ek baat ki...jo aaj unki baat kuch theek lagi... Even Rauf Klasra said something similar..
Shahd Masood said tht ECP dismissed IK and Jehangir Tareen's petition on technical grounds tht this petition is not maintanable.. Shayd ye ke election ke 90 days ke andar laani chahye thee...whatever,,this petition was dismissed on technical grounds.. So he says tht EC has done this thing preemptively...ke agar panama case main judges article 62/63 par koi declaration de dete hain, aur phir PTI Nawaz Sharif k against ECP main jati hai, tu ECP woh petition bhi technical grounds par dismiss kar dey...and then IK will not be able to make any noise on it... Ke us bunyaad par hi ECP ne IK ke against petition dismiss ki thee, aur usay IK ne haq aur sach ki fatah qarar diya tha......this theory makes some sense... Rauf Klasra bhi is se milti julti baat karrahay thay

What do u say, ppl?
@PakSword @IceCold @Arsalan

I had posted a few pages back that the SC sword will eventually fall on ECP as well as that is the only institute that SC hasn't properly grilled yet. ECP can try all delaying tactics if the reference for disqualification comes to it, but that'll be the end of ECP.

Add IK's intentions to go against ECP to this mix.

Bad times coming for ECP. Also look at what SC did to FBR two days ago ...
 
but more important is the verdict against the bubble butt, if she gets disqualified that NS family is done as both of his sons are not even citizens of Pakistan (a big slap on the ugly faces of patwaris who claim IK to be yahoodi agent)

Ye bubble butt baji...panama case main disqualify nahi hosakti...because she is not a public office holder..she is not MNA, tu disqualify kahan se karein ge? Ek dafa pakora judge ne kuch aisa remark bhi diya thake maryam bibi tu MNA hain hi nahi..tu uskr khilaf hum kia karein? Usay kaisy disqualify karein?

Maryam bibi ke liye asal trap dawn leaks hi hai..panama case main bibi ka kuch nahi bigrey ga.. Dawn leaks main usay phansana chahye.. Bas ek dafa naam aajaye..dawn leaks report main..baji ka...phir maza aayega.... Uska political career shuru honay se pehlay hi khatam hojayega..InshaAllah

I had posted a few pages back that the SC sword will eventually fall on ECP as well as that is the only institute that SC hasn't properly grilled yet. ECP can try all delaying tactics if the reference for disqualification comes to it, but that'll be the end of ECP.

Add IK's intentions to go against ECP to this mix.

Bad times coming for ECP. Also look at what SC did to FBR two days ago ...

Lekin ab masla tu yehi hai ke..ECP has given verdict in favor of IK.. If ECP dismisses petition against Nawaz Sharif..on similar technocal grounds..then how will IK make noise on it...when he himself declared this verdict as..victory of truth? See..this is the real trap
 
Lekin ab masla tu yehi hai ke..ECP has given verdict in favor of IK.. If ECP dismisses petition against Nawaz Sharif..on similar technocal grounds..then how will IK make noise on it...when he himself declared this verdict as..victory of truth? See..this is the real trap

Setting a precedent (to let IK case go on technicalities) will not spare ECP if disqualification of NS comes to it. It is an ill-advised tactic and will backfire.

IK is fearless. If ECP had disqualified him, he would have appealed to SC. He doesn't fear disqualification and has said so many times. He will still go against ECP over reforms, and NS disqualification if it comes to that.
 
Mera khyal hain ke military courts ke petition wali verdict.....tu kaafi months ke baad aayi thee? Hain na? Kiun @PakSword ? Ya aur kisi ko yaad hai?

No idea.

Election commission is maybe showing that they are being impartial. A week ago IK criticise EC and even threaten to launch a campaign against them, something i remember you referred to as preemptive strike.
Perhaps either it was that or maybe NS ko clean chit dena ki bari ahh gai ha. While IK will declare EC decision as victory, Nawaz will declare SC decision as victory. IMO agar aisa ho gaya to NS ki victory zayda bari ho gi.

Aik or baat yeh Chutia Aziz kis baat per High court yeh High court woh ker raha tha? Kya abb high court ka upper illzam lagana ka mood ha kah woh IK ka saath mil gai ha.

Mujhay kuch aisa hi lagta agar peh dar peh decisions sharif family ke khilaaf nahi aarahay hotay.. pehlay sugar mills case, phir promotions, phir aik taraf dawn leaks pe deadlock, phir yeh IK aur JKT ke haq main faisla.. There is something wrong with Sharif family.. Lagta hai paisa kaam aana band hogaya hai..

Lekin sachi baat yeh hai, itnay achay faislay, woh bhi wazir e azam ke ma tehet idaron se aana achi baat nahi mahsoos hoti.


Iss main aik tasveer @Farah Sohail ki pasandeeda saheli ki hai.. :lol:

itna tu mujhe yaqeen hai ke Justice Khosa aisi kisi deal ka hissa nahi banein ge... He will decide case on merit InshaAllah..

Bench main 5 judges hain.. aur sab ko "one" count kia jata hai.

This whole 3 minutes was blaming some power for 'making IK escape' ... all the randi rona about IHC not taking up the case and then taking it up ... PMLN lot have no choice now it seems to openly blame the establishment and judiciary for siding with IK.

Abhi tou danda aana sirf shuru hua hai... abhi se cheekhain nikal rahi hain inn ki tou aagay kia hoga.. mujhay sirf aik baat par hairat hai, wazeer e azam ke ma tehet idaray agar sahi decisions dene lag jaein, aur woh bhi achanak, tou daal kuch kali kali dikhai deti hai..

Waisy aaj Shahid Masood ne ek baat ki...jo aaj unki baat kuch theek lagi... Even Rauf Klasra said something similar..
Shahd Masood said tht ECP dismissed IK and Jehangir Tareen's petition on technical grounds tht this petition is not maintanable.. Shayd ye ke election ke 90 days ke andar laani chahye thee...whatever,,this petition was dismissed on technical grounds.. So he says tht EC has done this thing preemptively...ke agar panama case main judges article 62/63 par koi declaration de dete hain, aur phir PTI Nawaz Sharif k against ECP main jati hai, tu ECP woh petition bhi technical grounds par dismiss kar dey...and then IK will not be able to make any noise on it... Ke us bunyaad par hi ECP ne IK ke against petition dismiss ki thee, aur usay IK ne haq aur sach ki fatah qarar diya tha......this theory makes some sense... Rauf Klasra bhi is se milti julti baat karrahay thay

What do u say, ppl?
@PakSword @IceCold @Arsalan

Aik faisla alag aata tou baat hoti.. yahan tou aik ke baad aik thokar lag rahi hai.. Sab se khatarnaak faisla jo inn ke khilaaf aaya hai woh hai ghair qanooni promotions wala.. jis ke tehet inhon ne key position pe 2018 ke elections se pehlay apnay banday promote kar diey thay.. unn main aik fawad hasan fawad bhi tha.. abb jo log yeh case SC le kar gaey thay, woh jab promote hongay 2018 ke elections se pehlay tou PMLN ko woh tigni ka naach nachaeingay ke inhain apni nani yaar aajaeigi.

Baqi yeh baat, jaisay main ne upar likha hai, kuchh khofzada karnay wali zaroor hai TBH. jab aap kisi daku ko haji ban kar topi pehnay aur haath main tasbeeh liey dekhain tou samajh jaen hun ke aaj kisi ke zabardast tareeqay se lutnay ki baari aagai hai.

Lekin ab masla tu yehi hai ke..ECP has given verdict in favor of IK.. If ECP dismisses petition against Nawaz Sharif..on similar technocal grounds..then how will IK make noise on it...when he himself declared this verdict as..victory of truth? See..this is the real trap

Iss main aik masla hai.. IK ke jo bhi references thay woh purani information ki basis par thay.. For that information, there is a rule of 90 days, warna har koi har waqt kisi na kisi ke docs ko challenge kar ta rahay.

Yeh ko faisla aayega yeh new information ki base par aayega.. Duniya ka koi qanoon aik declared jhootay ko, chahay woh kisi bhi waqt jhoota sabit hua ho, disqualify honay se bacha nahi sakta..
 
Bench main 5 judges hain.. aur sab ko "one" count kia jata hai.

Justice Khosa ke ilaawa, baqi 3 judges bhi theek hain... Pakora judge bhi kaafi hadd tak sudhar gaye thay.... Justice Gulzar and Justice Ijazul Ahsan bhi bilkol theek hain.. Sirf ek advocate Ijaz Afzal hai... Woh agar Nawaz Sharif ke haqq main verdict dey bhi de..ya atleast leniency show karde...tu koi farq nahi parta.. We still have 4 votes in our favor
 
Waisy aaj Shahid Masood ne ek baat ki...jo aaj unki baat kuch theek lagi... Even Rauf Klasra said something similar..
Shahd Masood said tht ECP dismissed IK and Jehangir Tareen's petition on technical grounds tht this petition is not maintanable.. Shayd ye ke election ke 90 days ke andar laani chahye thee...whatever,,this petition was dismissed on technical grounds.. So he says tht EC has done this thing preemptively...ke agar panama case main judges article 62/63 par koi declaration de dete hain, aur phir PTI Nawaz Sharif k against ECP main jati hai, tu ECP woh petition bhi technical grounds par dismiss kar dey...and then IK will not be able to make any noise on it... Ke us bunyaad par hi ECP ne IK ke against petition dismiss ki thee, aur usay IK ne haq aur sach ki fatah qarar diya tha......this theory makes some sense... Rauf Klasra bhi is se milti julti baat karrahay thay

What do u say, ppl?
Itna opinions or tabsara per ker mera to damag ghoom jata ha. Phela he mera BP rise ha jab sa morning main tv lagya to is makroo admi ki speech chal rahi thi gawadar main. Tab he to likha tha kah justice hazart pata nahi kya soch raha hain justice delay kerna justice na dena ka mutdaraf ha. Baki as for your post i agree with @PakSword
 
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