Panama Case - Post Verdict Discussion and Updates

[fatman17]

Lahore right now.

 

[PakSword]

Now thats called sakhat wali bisti

@PakSword

https://twitter.com/x/status/968824258498621440

First Islamabad, Lahore, Karachi and after that central punjab should be the policy

Yeh kab hua?

 

[Zibago]

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Lahore right now.

Karachi/Dharay ga @Moonlight

 

[Shane]

Yeh kab hua?

Yesterday:

 

[Shane]

PTI should..lekin PTI ne bhi abhi tak aisa kuch nahi kaha ke they will go to SC over this..

PTI is acting as if it is the B team of Supreme Court and weary of being caught in the act...shameful attitude...towards the most upright judiciary in our history...

NEWS FLASH PTI...JUDICIARY DOESN'T NEED YOU TO DEFEND ITSELF....SO PLEASE STOP ACTING LIKE A PROVERBIAL BLANKET AS IN "KAMBAL".

I'm telling you that I fear any day that a PTI leader is going to be caught saying or overheard saying that these judges belong to us or that's what IK has said in the presence of "fulan fulan" leaders...that's how mature some of the CEC actually are...no wonder serious and sincere people like Fauzia Kasuri are not in the inner circle anymore and people like Azam Sawati get Senate tickets.

Nadan Dost say Aqalmand Dushman achcha....

Kaash PTI leaders who are around IK; in ko Aqalmand Dushman ki thori bohot comprehension hoti. What it means to be an AQALMAND DUSHMAN of SCP, they have not an iota of clue.

Wait a few days for the exact jibe to stick to Nawaz Sharif's tongue...today he quoted from IK as KAMZOR FAISLA....soon he will be taught to say IK BHE IQAMA PAR DECISION KO GHALAT KEHTA HAY...then we will see PTI leadership scrambling for an answer while the inept Nawaz still gets to laugh at them...and a game of who makes the biggest bhand shall continue...

After the success of "go nawaz go" PTI has taken a back seat as if scared of its success.

PMLN has invented MUJHAY KYUN NIKALA... and

PMLN now has another catchy slogan...VOTE KO IZZAT DO...talk about irony and total lack of counter narrative from our sleeping beauties.

@Farah Sohail PTI is reluctant to do anything political or legal against PMLN as if it will be caught helping the judiciary or something...NADAN DOST SAY AQALMAND DUSHMAN ACHCHA...has no meaning or clue for a party unable to make out the head and toe of its counter narrative and is resolutely looking at SCP like a petrified deer with headlights in its eyes.

PMLN HAS DOOMED ITSELF AS WE SPEAK by making NAWAZ as its SUPREME LEADER...knock knock PTI...

...but no body's there.

 

[Farah Sohail]

PTI is acting as if it is the B team of Supreme Court and weary of being caught in the act...shameful attitude...towards the most upright judiciary in our history...

NEWS FLASH PTI...JUDICIARY DOESN'T NEED YOU TO DEFEND ITSELF....SO PLEASE STOP ACTING LIKE A PROVERBIAL BLANKET AS IN "KAMBAL".

I'm telling you that I fear any day that a PTI leader is going to be caught saying or overheard saying that these judges belong to us or that's what IK has said in the presence of "fulan fulan" leaders...that's how mature some of the CEC actually are...no wonder serious and sincere people like Fauzia Kasuri are not in the inner circle anymore and people like Azam Sawati get Senate tickets.

Nadan Dost say Aqalmand Dushman achcha....

Kaash PTI leaders who are around IK; in ko Aqalmand Dushman ki thori bohot comprehension hoti. What it means to be an AQALMAND DUSHMAN of SCP, they have not an iota of clue.

Wait a few days for the exact jibe to stick to Nawaz Sharif's tongue...today he quoted from IK as KAMZOR FAISLA....soon he will be taught to say IK BHE IQAMA PAR DECISION KO GHALAT KEHTA HAY...then we will see PTI leadership scrambling for an answer while the inept Nawaz still gets to laugh at them...and a game of who makes the biggest bhand shall continue...

After the success of "go nawaz go" PTI has taken a back seat as if scared of its success.

PMLN has invented MUJHAY KYUN NIKALA... and

PMLN now has another catchy slogan...VOTE KO IZZAT DO...talk about irony and total lack of counter narrative from our sleeping beauties.

@Farah Sohail PTI is reluctant to do anything political or legal against PMLN as if it will be caught helping the judiciary or something...NADAN DOST SAY AQALMAND DUSHMAN ACHCHA...has no meaning or clue for a party unable to make out the head and toe of its counter narrative and is resolutely looking at SCP like a petrified deer with headlights in its eyes.

PMLN HAS DOOMED ITSELF AS WE SPEAK by making NAWAZ as its SUPREME LEADER...knock knock PTI...

...but no body's there.

Couldnt have said it better... you said it all

 

[Shane]

Couldnt have said it better... you said it all

I haven't even started yet, lol.

Thank you for understanding exactly what I mean and it is nothing but with the best of intentions for the sake of presenting another pov that differs from what is going on.

PTI could have made PMLN a name to be ridiculed after Panama decision and nothing short of a stigma on politics in Pakistan but we saw nothing of the sort.

They could have politically hounded PMLN with such slogans and narrative that wouldn't have left them alone even in their sleep but to no avail.

PTI could have made the name of Sharifs a stigma in the eyes of common people of Pakistan instead of allowing them political room to not only politically recuperate but even come back to start their own narrative on an open and vacant political playing field.

Remember the Nathia Gali days in the aftermath of Panama Decision...unfortunately Politics is about timing and not taking time out to relax after signs of a potential win just start to become something within grasp.

If IK was taking a much needed breather or his life was at threat then what about the rest of PTI leadership?

I mean look at the benefit of what CM KPK, Parvaiz Khatak politically managed to achieve, striving for Islamabad lockdown and IK was able to get 184-3 hearing on Panama.

After the 2014 Dharna and Panama decision, I'm always amazed at the lack of large scale political activity of second tier leadership of PTI who don't even try to create political noise without Imran Khan and always need IK to lead everything. This, I believe is the contributing reason of PTI taking a back seat off late; surprisingly, there is no steam in PTI leadership other than Imran Khan. I'm leaving out KPK government leadership, rightfully being busy with its provincial projects.

I'm not just talking about missing press conferences and Jalsas but missing political movements at different times on so many counts like when NAB was not filing Hudaibya reopening appeal after weeks went by instead of 7 day deadline. That movement alone could have highlighted the importance of Hudaibya case manifold with added pressure for good measure on any judges who eventually heard the case, as something with intense focus and not to be ignored.

Because it was missing, now we may never know either way, what pressure it could have created on those three judges who let Hudaibya reopening appeal slip so easily by using an excuse of time bar on a criminal case.
Weigh that thought with the political pressure created by PMLN against Judges and you might understand my point more easily.

In Pakistani politics, sloganeering has its considerable contribution in creating narratives and counter narratives. Just looking at success of Go Nawaz Go takes care of nay sayers.

Some of the slogans that could have been on every kids tongue on the streets to complement GO Nawaz GO and gali gali maen shor hay, sara tabber chor hay... :

Na Flat hay na kothi hay,
Maryam Nawaz Jhoti hay! (no doubt about this less exploited fact)

VOTE KO IZZAT DO,
NAWAZ SHARIF BAY-IZZAT HO!

Na Nawaz na Shahbaz,
INSAF INSAF!

Pakistan bachana hay,
Hudaibya case chalana hay!

And just imagine the success of these slogans if raised by Imran Khan instead of Bilawal:

Modi ka jo yar hay...

Jindaal ka jo yar hay...

Kulbhushan say kyun pyar hay...

Etc etc...

Above are just some non serious slogans made to make a point and to start you on that road, so you know what I mean and you get the idea of benefits of political movements instead of taking a backseat.

I'm talking about a political party having and using the name of a disqualified leader as in Pakistan Muslim League NAWAZ...HOWCOME?

Now he's even its SUPREME LEADER for life against exact words of SCP verdict quoted by @Farah Sohail earlier, barring any such title holding, lol, what a joke about respect and RULE OF LAW.

Everybody knows that Politics is about making things happen and that is exactly what PMLN has done politically after Panama decision.

Fortunately, we are now seeing signs of PTI beginning to do the same and preparing to confront PMLN on political front. Good luck and God Bless Pakistan.

 

[El Sidd]

Lol

Halaat nazuk nazar atay hain

 

[Farah Sohail]

Na Flat hay na kothi hay,
Maryam Nawaz Jhoti hay! (no doubt about this less exploited fact)

Loved this one, the most

 

[Complex Variable]

I haven't even started yet, lol.

Thank you for understanding exactly what I mean and it is nothing but with the best of intentions for the sake of presenting another pov that differs from what is going on.

PTI could have made PMLN a name to be ridiculed after Panama decision and nothing short of a stigma on politics in Pakistan but we saw nothing of the sort.

They could have politically hounded PMLN with such slogans and narrative that wouldn't have left them alone even in their sleep but to no avail.

PTI could have made the name of Sharifs a stigma in the eyes of common people of Pakistan instead of allowing them political room to not only politically recuperate but even come back to start their own narrative on an open and vacant political playing field.

Remember the Nathia Gali days in the aftermath of Panama Decision...unfortunately Politics is about timing and not taking time out to relax after signs of a potential win just start to become something within grasp.

If IK was taking a much needed breather or his life was at threat then what about the rest of PTI leadership?

I mean look at the benefit of what CM KPK, Parvaiz Khatak politically managed to achieve, striving for Islamabad lockdown and IK was able to get 184-3 hearing on Panama.

After the 2014 Dharna and Panama decision, I'm always amazed at the lack of large scale political activity of second tier leadership of PTI who don't even try to create political noise without Imran Khan and always need IK to lead everything. This, I believe is the contributing reason of PTI taking a back seat off late; surprisingly, there is no steam in PTI leadership other than Imran Khan. I'm leaving out KPK government leadership, rightfully being busy with its provincial projects.

I'm not just talking about missing press conferences and Jalsas but missing political movements at different times on so many counts like when NAB was not filing Hudaibya reopening appeal after weeks went by instead of 7 day deadline. That movement alone could have highlighted the importance of Hudaibya case manifold with added pressure for good measure on any judges who eventually heard the case, as something with intense focus and not to be ignored.

Because it was missing, now we may never know either way, what pressure it could have created on those three judges who let Hudaibya reopening appeal slip so easily by using an excuse of time bar on a criminal case.
Weigh that thought with the political pressure created by PMLN against Judges and you might understand my point more easily.

In Pakistani politics, sloganeering has its considerable contribution in creating narratives and counter narratives. Just looking at success of Go Nawaz Go takes care of nay sayers.

Some of the slogans that could have been on every kids tongue on the streets to complement GO Nawaz GO and gali gali maen shor hay, sara tabber chor hay... :

Na Flat hay na kothi hay,
Maryam Nawaz Jhoti hay! (no doubt about this less exploited fact)

VOTE KO IZZAT DO,
NAWAZ SHARIF BAY-IZZAT HO!

Na Nawaz na Shahbaz,
INSAF INSAF!

Pakistan bachana hay,
Hudaibya case chalana hay!

And just imagine the success of these slogans if raised by Imran Khan instead of Bilawal:

Modi ka jo yar hay...

Jindaal ka jo yar hay...

Kulbhushan say kyun pyar hay...

Etc etc...

Above are just some non serious slogans made to make a point and to start you on that road, so you know what I mean and you get the idea of benefits of political movements instead of taking a backseat.

I'm talking about a political party having and using the name of a disqualified leader as in Pakistan Muslim League NAWAZ...HOWCOME?

Now he's even its SUPREME LEADER for life against exact words of SCP verdict quoted by @Farah Sohail earlier, barring any such title holding, lol, what a joke about respect and RULE OF LAW.

Everybody knows that Politics is about making things happen and that is exactly what PMLN has done politically after Panama decision.

Fortunately, we are now seeing signs of PTI beginning to do the same and preparing to confront PMLN on political front. Good luck and God Bless Pakistan.

These slogans also came into my mind, and i was exactly thinking the same thing. I even thought about writing these slogans in paper make thousands of copies and throw them in each street of my constituency.

But i had to travel back to UAE and i was not sure if it was a right thing to do or not.

IK should have done what you are saying.

We don’t know what he is thinking. May be he is thinking that i have brought everything in front of nation. Now its there turn to decide and judge what is right and wrong. What’s happening in courts, parliament and in every institute.
Everything is open in front of whole nation, but still....

 

[Shane]

Lol

Halaat nazuk nazar atay hain

Yeah, I know, lol, leaders dashkaray hon aur awam faqay say to halat nazuk hee nahee patlay bhee nazar atay hain...

 

[Verve]

Dawn leaks in SC next ...

IK doesn't need to do a lot other than let the law take it's course.

 

[Shane]

Dawn leaks in SC next ...

IK doesn't need to do a lot other than let the law take it's course.

Agreed! Let the law take its course...and politics?

Just so happens that we live in Pakistan where the mighty wheels of the law take ages to move and when they do move, take ages more to run the full course.

IK doesn't need to do a lot is the worrisome part. A lot is being anticipated and left to chance, however minute it may be.

I guess being prepaired for the worst is being considered a bad strategy. Hindsight and retrospect are the best friends of failure for a reason...

 

[Shane]

About Justice Bashir of Islamabad Accountability trial court no.1

The law ministry has kept trial 2 court appointment vacant for no reasons since right after Panama decision.

 

[El Sidd]

@PakSword phir agaya waqt for 'abhi hum zinda hain- hum karenge insaaf' ???