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[PakSword]

Yarr yea NRO ka dar laga hua hai mujhy. Maryam ko bacha lain gay. Us ko bachna nahi chaye. Wicked woman.

Agar yahan bachi tou challenge hojaega HC main.. wahan bachi tou SC main dobara challenge hojaega..

Waisay itna bara bhand chhup nahi sakta..

 

[Dastaan]

Agar yahan bachi tou challenge hojaega HC main.. wahan bachi tou SC main dobara challenge hojaega..

Waisay itna bara bhand chhup nahi sakta..

 

[IceCold]

Accountability Court rejects Sharif family’s plea to club all references
November 8, 2017

By:Samaa Web Desk

Published in Pakistan

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ISLAMABAD: Accountability Court Wednesday dismissed the plea of Sharif family to club all the references against him and directly indicted him.

The Accountability Court of Islamabad, first announcing the judgment reserved in previous hearing, refused to club all the corruption references against Sharif family.

Later, Nawaz Sharif was made to stand at the dock and was directly charge-sheeted; however, he pleaded not guilty. However, his counsel asked him to sign the document.

It should be mentioned here that part regarding Calibri font has been omitted from the charge-sheet.

AC Judge Muhammad Bashir said it is the apex court’s order to dispense with the four references within six months.

Nawaz Sharif appointed Zafir Khan his permanent representative.

Nawaz Sharif’s counsel Khawaja Haris appeared before the court along with his client, his daughter Maryam Nawaz and son-in-law Captain (Retd) Muhammad Safdar.

The hearing has been adjourned to November 15.

Previous hearing

AC Judge Muhammad Bashir took up the Nawaz Sharif’s plea for hearing seeking to club three references related to Avenfield property, Flagship Investment and Azizia Steel Mills for hearing together in light of Islamabad High Court (IHC) Judgment to re-hear the case.

As the hearing began, the counsel for the Sharif family Khawaja Harris contented before the court that the charges levelled against the Sharifs are common in all three references, adding the references are related to different assets but all three name the same persons as accused.

Harris said nine and 13 witnesses have been named in the Flagship Investment Ltd reference and Al-Azizia Steel Mills reference, respectively, adding six witnesses are common in both references and three are common with those of Avenfield flats reference.

He argued that the same witnesses have to appear in different references separately if three references were not clubbed. He said a single trail should be conducted against his clients.

Harris contended that the three cases should be clubbed and heard together as they were similar in nature, saying that the defense and the prosecution of the three references were also the same.

After Khawaja Harris completed his arguments, Nawaz Sharif, his daughter Maryam Nawaz and son-in-law Captain (Retd) Muhammad Safdar left the courtroom with permission of court.

Later, opposing the defense counsel’s arguments, National Accountability Bureau (NAB)’s prosecutor Waqas Malik said that although the primary accused in all references is same but references were separated due to different crimes and transactions.

He said each nominated person had an individual role in each asset and Al Azizia Steel Mills reference.

The prosecutor argued that the witnesses are common in three references but they have to provide different documents for the case record. He said as Hassan and Hussain Nawaz had not joined the court proceeding, the three cases couldn’t be clubbed for together hearing.

After hearing the arguments from both sides, the court reserved its judgments, which would likely to be announced on Wednesday.

It may be mentioned here that a two member bench of IHC had ordered the accountability court to re-hear the case in accordance of section 17-D and suspended its decision for separating the three references.

The AC was hearing three references against Sharif family members filed by National Accountability Bureau (NAB) on September 8, in compliance of Supreme Court July 28, judgment in Panama papers case.

The court had indicted Nawaz Sharif in two references and his daughter Maryam and Safdar in one reference. –Samaa/agencies


https://www.samaa.tv/pakistan/2017/...-rejects-sharif-familys-plea-club-references/

 

[Arsalan]

Aik masla aur hai.. kal agar basheeray ne references ko combine na karnay ka reason main SC ke verdict ko refer kia tou PMLN buhat shor machaegi ke SC indirectly asar andaaz hogai hai references pe..

@Dil Pakistan @Shane

He wont do that!
Daik lyna. **** khabar samj lo.

 

[PakSword]

He wont do that!
Daik lyna. **** khabar samj lo.

Yes you are right.. I think he has not referred to the SC decision. Good sign from him..

 

[Farah Sohail]

Aik baat maan'ni paregi waisay @Farah Sohail

Yeh judgment Ejaz Afzal ne dil se likha hai.. bilkul Justice Khosa ki tarah..

Chhota judgment hai... I wish he had written a few more pages..

Hmm... ye theek kaha... aap ne... inke liye dil main izzat barh gayi hai...pehle se bhtt...
Waisy ek baat jo hum pehle bhi kehtay thay ke Ejaz Afzal was never a hypocrite.. woh jaisy bhi thay...sab ke saamnay thay..

when he used to sympathise with sharifs..tu woh openly thay... we never expected decision against sharifs from him..on 20th april.. jab se woh change hona shuru huay..it reflected in his remarks and conduct..otherwise kuch judges remarks baray baray detay hain lekin who decisions main reflect nahi hota.. (not talking abt panama judges but some other)

pehle Ejaz Afzal ....IK ke baaray main kehtay thay ke hum ne PM ko jhoota nahi kaha...ek leader qoum ko gumrah karraha hai...and now in this review decision where he openly said tht NS tried to fool everyone..

Achay insan hain Ejaz Afzal... apnay conduct ko unhon ne facts ki basis par poora change kar diya.. he is an honest man.. tab hi ye hosaka

Waisy qatri letter ka bhi kuch zikr kar dete tu acha hota.. Qatari letter reh gaya review decision main

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kal SC ne trust deed ko Calibri front ki basis par jaali kaha...aaj ...woh charge hi nikal diya basheeray ne...baji par se

 

[newb3e]

Lols 1-2 decades chalna hai ya case i am predicting atleast 1 billions pages of this thread and after 2 decades koi verdict nai aye ga!

 

[PakSword]

kal SC ne trust deed ko Calibri front ki basis par jaali kaha...aaj ...woh charge hi nikal diya basheeray ne...baji par se

Woh charge iss liey nikala hai ke abhi establish hona baqi hai..

Remember we discussed during the hearing that to establish the hera pheri, the expert must have recorded his statement as an expert witness.. And the forensic was ready to do that but SC didn't ask for it during the entire hearing.

I think now Basheer Sb will ask the forensic firm to come forward and record its statement as an expert witness. This is how I see it.. What's your opinion?

 

[Shane]

Woh charge iss liey nikala hai ke abhi establish hona baqi hai..

Remember we discussed during the hearing that to establish the hera pheri, the expert must have recorded his statement as an expert witness.. And the forensic was ready to do that but SC didn't ask for it during the entire hearing.

I think now Basheer Sb will ask the forensic firm to come forward and record its statement as an expert witness. This is how I see it.. What's your opinion?

You hit the bulls eye.

 

[Farah Sohail]

Woh charge iss liey nikala hai ke abhi establish hona baqi hai..

Remember we discussed during the hearing that to establish the hera pheri, the expert must have recorded his statement as an expert witness.. And the forensic was ready to do that but SC didn't ask for it during the entire hearing.

I think now Basheer Sb will ask the forensic firm to come forward and record its statement as an expert witness. This is how I see it.. What's your opinion?

Bhai.. charge laganay ka matlab convict karna nahi hota.. abhi tu forgery establish honay ki stage hi nahi aayi.......
Chargesheet tu sirf ek FIR hai...jo jo charges honge..unke against prosecution witnesses aayein gi....phir cross examination hogi..witnesses ki......aur phir end main court decide karay ke charge sabit huay ya nahi?
verdict main court keh sakti hai ke kon se charge sabit huay aur kon se nahi..

lekin jab charge sheet main se ye Calibri font wali jaali trust deed ka ilzam hi nikaal diya basheeeray ne phir sabit kaisy hoga? jab kisi cheez ka ilzaam hi hatt gaya..phir witnesss (as in forensic expert here) kaisy aayega?

aur kal SC ne tu openly us Calibri font wali trust deed ko jhoota keh diya ye keh kar...ye us font main thee..jo 2007 se pehle commercially available hi nahi thee.. yahan SC ne prima facie ka word bhi nahi use kiya..
is se ziada SC kia kehti?
JIT ki ye baat tu SC poori tarah accept kar li hai
aur aaj pata chala ke basheeray ne ye charge delete kar diya

 

[Rank]

Calibri font nikala isliye hey kay SC nay woh dic may mana hay aur ye eek tactical move heybub chonoay Maryam kay is doc ko agar SC real maan leti hey tu phir Maryam nay ye batana hay kay uskay paas paisa kahan se aya

 

[PakSword]

Bhai.. charge laganay ka matlab convict karna nahi hota.. abhi tu forgery establish honay ki stage hi nahi aayi.......
Chargesheet tu sirf ek FIR hai...jo jo charges honge..unke against prosecution witnesses aayein gi....phir cross examination hogi..witnesses ki......aur phir end main court decide karay ke charge sabit huay ya nahi?
verdict main court keh sakti hai ke kon se charge sabit huay aur kon se nahi..

lekin jab charge sheet main se ye Calibri font wali jaali trust deed ka ilzam hi nikaal diya basheeeray ne phir sabit kaisy hoga? jab kisi cheez ka ilzaam hi hatt gaya..phir witnesss (as in forensic expert here) kaisy aayega?

aur kal SC ne tu openly us Calibri font wali trust deed ko jhoota keh diya ye keh kar...ye us font main thee..jo 2007 se pehle commercially available hi nahi thee.. yahan SC ne prima facie ka word bhi nahi use kiya..
is se ziada SC kia kehti?
JIT ki ye baat tu SC poori tarah accept kar li hai
aur aaj pata chala ke basheeray ne ye charge delete kar diya

I think you missed the following:

THEY REMOVED ONE SECTION ONLY, allegation of forging documents is still there

کیلبری فونٹ کی جعلی دستاویز سےمتعلق پیراگراف فرد جرم کے متن کا حصہ رہے گا، عدالت

کیلبری فونٹ والی دستاویزجعلی ثابت ہونےپرقانونی کارروائی کا اختیار ہے،وکیل درخواست گزار
اس مرحلےپرکیلبری فونٹ والاالزام فرد جرم کا حصہ نہیں بنایا جا سکتا، امجد پرویز ایڈووکیٹ

I think it will still be investigated and will be included later..

 

[IceCold]

So when is the decision likely to come? Ppp is saying that they are not seeing elections on time? Ppp also said they dont want early elections. Now why would they felt the need to make such a comment and who will benefit from it? PTI on the other hand has started to prepare for one.
What is the latest on Imran and Tareen casse?