Pakistan's stubbornness costing US Rs 2019 crore a month!

[Areesh]

Merely wanting the drone attacks to stop is not going to be enough. Pakistan also has to do their part.

Like shooting them down?

 

[VCheng]

Like shooting them down?

If that is what Pakistan wants to do, sure. Please go ahead if it serves Pakistan's national interest to shoot a drone down and weather the inevitable consequences.

 

[Areesh]

If that is what Pakistan wants to do, sure. Please go ahead if it serves Pakistan's national interest to shoot a drone down and weather the inevitable consequences.

Not shooting them down isn't helping Pakistan either.

Drones aren't helping USA either to be honest. You just can't beat Taliban by firing one or two missiles here and there.

 

[VCheng]

Not shooting them down isn't helping Pakistan either.

Drones aren't helping USA either to be honest. You just can't beat Taliban by firing one or two missiles here and there.

Then what do you propose should be done, seriously?

 

[Areesh]

Then what do you propose should be done, seriously?

America should just quit Afghanistan. And Muslim countries should be involved in persuading/pressurizing Taliban to lay down their weapons and come to the dialogue table, to be part of political process. American presence itself is a problem how can we expect a solution out of it. Drone attacks are just part of American obsession with killing humans. They aren't any good against Taliban.

 

[VCheng]

America should just quit Afghanistan. And Muslim countries should be involved in persuading/pressurizing Taliban to lay down their weapons and come to the dialogue table, to be part of political process. ..............

Well, the drawdown is implemented in 2014, with only a limited presence thereafter.

How do you propose to involve all Muslim countries to do what you propose?

 

[FaujHistorian]

America should just quit Afghanistan. And Muslim countries should be involved in persuading/pressurizing Taliban to lay down their weapons and come to the dialogue table.

Let Americans do their thing.

If you so strongly believe in Muslim brother hood-hood to bring peace, why don't you apply your fantastic theory to Syria?

Send your hood-hood to persuade/pressure bloody Assad or the FSA to lay down their weapons and come to the chai dialogue?

Just some Paksitanis do not get it, and Muslim countries are good for just one thing. spill blood of fellow Muslims.

That's all.

 

[Areesh]

Let Americans do their thing.

Then let Taliban do "their thing". Why you then whine about it?

If you so strongly believe in Muslim brother hood-hood to bring peace, why don't you apply your fantastic theory to Syria?

Send your hood-hood to persuade/pressure bloody Assad or the FSA to lay down their weapons and come to the chai dialogue?

That should happen. And that's the only solution. Don't tell me you are waiting for America to invade Syria too. Facepalm.

 

[FaujHistorian]

Then let Taliban do "their thing". Why you then whine about it?

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Do you know why Americans are in Afghanistan? Because "Muslim countries" and "Muslim fanatics" messed this gad-awful country up.

Americans got out when Commies were defeated.

Then your dear dear Muslim brother hood-hood got in and brought 1000 times more destruction to Afghanistan than what commies did in 10 years.

Some people think history should be thrown out of window as soon as Muslim brother hood-hood needs to be praised.

Well carry on brother, carry on and continue sympathizing terrorist Talibobs. sympathize. Allaho Akbar. sympathize.

 

[VCheng]

Do you know why Americans are in Afghanistan? Because "Muslim countries" and "Muslim fanatics" messed this gad-awful country up.

Americans got out when Commies were defeated................

.................. and USA would have stayed out too, but was forced to come back and clean up the mess that incubated the 9/11 attacks.

 

[BATMAN]

.................. and USA would have stayed out too, but was forced to come back and clean up the mess that incubated the 9/11 attacks.

This is how US goes to war... wiping out complete Pashtoon race!

Sorry to ask.. but where is this rage, when you open negotiations with Taliban?

Ironically, after Sept.-11 OBL was having his blood mess getting cleaned up in Dubai at American hospital.

 

[shuntmaster]

It's about time the Nato realizes Pakistan is no Ally.

In the long run it will benefit both parties.

Thats right. $1.3billion/year is a small money for US and its more than what US gave in aid to Pakistan in last 10years. Its worth it since Pakistan cannot play its ace card any more against US and US can operate at will without Pakistan blackmailing NATO/US on how it conducts its business in afp@k region.

 

[Thomas]

if america treat allies like this then it,s better not to be an ally.
parliament,s guidelines are there, america and her so called allies need to follow them.........
they used our roads for free,
come and watch the condition of our roads , then utter such words ....
there need to be an end to bloody blame game

The problem of the roads has nothing to do with the billions paid to Pakistan to transport supplies. But more to do with the Pakistani elite pocketing the money rather then fix the roads.

 

[BATMAN]

The problem of the roads has nothing to do with the billions paid to Pakistan to transport supplies. But more to do with the Pakistani elite pocketing the money rather then fix the roads.

You see there is a small problem here, i.e. zero transparency.

-Do you have count of trucks being hauled per day?
-Do you have payment receipts which shows port charges were paid?
-Do you have payment receipts of fuel being shipped to you?
-Can you prove that all the goods being shipped under guise of NATO supply were really intended for NATO and no non NATO personal or company was source of consumption?

There is no record of any money being received from US by National Highway Authority of Pakistan.
See... when you want to pay for road construction, pay to the relevant authority, same as all international donor agencies do and have record of every single penny lended to Pakistan!

 

[Thomas]

You see there is a small problem here, i.e. zero transparency.

-Do you have count of trucks being hauled per day?
-Do you have payment receipts which shows port charges were paid?
-Do you have payment receipts of fuel being shipped to you?
-Can you prove that all the goods being shipped under guise of NATO supply were really intended for NATO and no non NATO personal or company was source of consumption?

There is no record of any money being received from US by National Highway Authority of Pakistan.
See... when you want to pay for road construction, pay to the relevant authority, same as all international donor agencies do and have record of every single penny lended to Pakistan!

On the US side yes, the military has to account to congress for the money spent. Not sure on the Pakistani side of things what your procedures are if any.