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This 1 Pic is enough to show what's wrong with SSG, and why they perform poor. Look at SSG's helmet, looks like used 80's era Soviet Helmet, and vest has no coverage on the sides, and than look at the Turkish SF personnel and his gear set.
That's SSG (N), not army guys.

That's SSG (N), not army guys.
.... And that's a photo op pic. That's why they are wearing all sort of light and shiny insignias.
 
SSG likes to operate light.
Shouldn't it be depending on the nature of the mission ? Ngl but I never saw a single Picture of SSG in heavy gear set compared to either SAS/SEALs or even the Turkish SF.

That's SSG (N), not army guys.
That's SSG (N), not army guys.
Well SSG's in combat gear is not that different, Saw pics here on PDF from the FATA areas where SSG geared up more like regular troops.
 
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Shouldn't it be depending on the nature of the mission ? Ngl but I never saw a single Picture of SSG in heavy gear set compared to either SAS/SEALs or even the Turkish SF.

Because SSG mostly operates in dominated battlespace or deep cover recon ops. Both applications don't require heavy gear.
 
Because SSG mostly operates in dominated battlespace or deep cover recon ops. Both applications don't require heavy gear.
What about Operations within our own territory ?
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Given this was a very intense Operation and yet I see very compromising gear/uniform/protective gear, those helmets they are wearing I doubt do anything against a Rifle bullet let alone a sniper's.
 
Shouldn't it be depending on the nature of the mission ? Ngl but I never saw a single Picture of SSG in heavy gear set compared to either SAS/SEALs or even the Turkish SF.



Well SSG's in combat gear is not that different, Saw pics here on PDF from the FATA areas where SSG geared up more like regular troops.

The cut helmet is a new FAST helmet design built to be lighter and better for SF. It isn’t a soviet helmet
 
What about Operations within our own territory ?
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Given this was a very intense Operation and yet I see very compromising gear/uniform/protective gear, those helmets they are wearing I doubt do anything against a Rifle bullet let alone a sniper's.

For this the SSG has adequate gear now.
 
Shouldn't it be depending on the nature of the mission ? Ngl but I never saw a single Picture of SSG in heavy gear set compared to either SAS/SEALs or even the Turkish SF.



Well SSG's in combat gear is not that different, Saw pics here on PDF from the FATA areas where SSG geared up more like regular troops.
A dear friend Late Maj(R) Muhammad Akram ex SSG said when the US came to do a river crossing exercise with SSG, the SSG guys wore their BDU and and US who were kitted to the nines made fun of them saying you guys will die of hypothermia.

About 20 mins after the river crossing there was a run with full kit to the other side of the dam, the Americans who were weighed down by their now soaking and heavy kit were gasping due to hyperventilation 😂.

There is a reason SSG guys do the things they do. Years of experience in making do with the “minimum” has made them so BAMF’.

Similarly specialist SOF pilots came to train Pakistan Aviation pilots for night ops “flying with NVG’s” and asked the pilots how have you guys been able to do this without NVGs for so long…?

My late uncle Col (R) Ehsan Niazi simply replied, swiftly but surely 😂.

People discount Pakistan Army too quickly because we don’t have all the gizmos and gadgets but what we have is battle tested experience.

There is a saying in professional circles “all the gear - no idea”.

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Compare this ANA commando from 1Bat to SSG operators…

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Our boys don’t need all the Gucci gear on display, because they do have “an idea”.

Slow is smooth, smooth is fast. 😊
 
What about Operations within our own territory ?
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Given this was a very intense Operation and yet I see very compromising gear/uniform/protective gear, those helmets they are wearing I doubt do anything against a Rifle bullet let alone a sniper's.
Hi, the vests you see are made by Lyra and are rated to NIJ level III with level IV strike plates.
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NIJ levels explained:

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The helmet is a BH A-140 made by GIDS I. Pakistan and is Kevlar ballistic helmet modelled on the PASGT helmet, fast cut ACH are placing these for the SSG and other SOF in Pakistan.

The current helmet issued to Pakistan Army offers a reasonable level of protection

 
A dear friend Late Maj(R) Muhammad Akram ex SSG said when the US came to do a river crossing exercise with SSG, the SSG guys wore their BDU and and US who were kitted to the nines made fun of them saying you guys will die of hypothermia.

About 20 mins after the river crossing there was a run with full kit to the other side of the dam, the Americans who were weighed down by their now soaking and heavy kit were gasping due to hyperventilation 😂.

There is a reason SSG guys do the things they do. Years of experience in making do with the “minimum” has made them so BAMF’.
This is exactly what the armchair analyst need to consider, our Army in general and SSG in particular have pulled up straight up miracles particularly in the WoT with limited gear, support and air cover. Tell any western army to make do with what our boys do they’d straight up refuse to operate.
My statement is not to say we don’t need the best things we can get for our boys, they deserve each and every penny but they will forever have my respect for making do with what they are provided.
 
A dear friend Late Maj(R) Muhammad Akram ex SSG said when the US came to do a river crossing exercise with SSG, the SSG guys wore their BDU and and US who were kitted to the nines made fun of them saying you guys will die of hypothermia.

About 20 mins after the river crossing there was a run with full kit to the other side of the dam, the Americans who were weighed down by their now soaking and heavy kit were gasping due to hyperventilation 😂.

There is a reason SSG guys do the things they do. Years of experience in making do with the “minimum” has made them so BAMF’.

Similarly specialist SOF pilots came to train Pakistan Aviation pilots for night ops “flying with NVG’s” and asked the pilots how have you guys been able to do this without NVGs for so long…?

My late uncle Col (R) Ehsan Niazi simply replied, swiftly but surely 😂.

People discount Pakistan Army too quickly because we don’t have all the gizmos and gadgets but what we have is battle tested experience.

There is a saying in professional circles “all the gear - no idea”.

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Compare this ANA commando from 1Bat to SSG operators…

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Our boys don’t need all the Gucci gear on display, because they do have “an idea”.

Slow is smooth, smooth is fast. 😊
A tripod on an M4 and a million mags. Thats rambo rambo Jan rambo coachroach killa.
 
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