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Pakistan's Sindh has characteristics of an independent state: US Congressional report

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Cultural and lingual differences eventually win over religion.
Socially yes.South Indians rarely marry with north indian hindus and vice versa but politically they are a single entity protected by a singular constitution and 4th largest military.
 
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man these effing jew will never learn not to interfere in other people's business
Brad Sherman is on indian payroll and fails to see how interdependent each of pakistan's provinces are on one another
this guy lead the the congress in efforts to invite modi to address the congress
the intentions for such a report are to incite separatism in Pakistan and please his Indians financiers
he can go shove this moronic report up his a**
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Socially yes.South Indians rarely marry with north indian hindus and vice versa but politically they are a single entity protected by a singular constitution and 4th largest military.

I know. If the state can provide for its citizens these differences become a minor issue.

man these effing jew will never learn not to interfere in other people's business
Brad Sherman is on indian payroll and fails to see how interdependent each of pakistan's provinces are on one another
this guy lead the the congress in efforts to invite modi to address the congress
the intentions for such a report are to incite separatism in Pakistan and please his Indians financiers
he can go shove this moronic report up his a**
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He must also be an idiot and truly does not understand Sindh. From the west, Sindh is inhabited by Baloch and Sindhi tribes, on the north there is a cultural mix of Punjabi and Sindhi. Sindh's urban cities such as Karachi and Hyderabad are a fusion of all of the Pakistani ethnicities. Sindh cannot survive without Karachi, but Karachi can survive without Sindh. The possibility of an independent Sindh are next to zero.
 
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What may sound official to you, Sir, is clearly not. General Sharif will be making Pakistan's case as best he can, I am sure, with the US government.
I am not saying he wont! he surely is trying his best.
Problem is the perception in general is no different then this thesis. There may be multiple lobbies in US, but unlike Pakistan, they are pretty much under the government influence and they pretty much resonate on same lines on major issues. In case of Pakistan they have a unilateral view of negativity and they always try to put us under pressure.
We should stop going to US, because they are not ready to listen to us! Now first we need to make them realize that they need to listen to us and then it will be any useful to go there, otherwise we can conveniently avoid going there, rather visit more to Moscow and beijing
 
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Before any responses, keep in mind that even the 50 American States have characteristics of independent states.

Also, couldn't find the report on Library of Congress.

Where's our resident researcher @Syed.Ali.Haider
+1 sums it up
This useless report don't deserve a second reply after this!

100s if not 1000s of other geographical areas in the world have "Characteristics" of being so.
The report is just to sow seed in corrupt minds.
 
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In USA, there are many many lobbies. And among those lobbies, many are paid by anti Pakistan forces (including a lobby which could be a state in the state in USA).

So what I understand is that they started a psychological war by injecting the separatism mood like a map showing a separated Baluchistan, and now this new report.

What could we do or what should we do to counter that? To strengthen our unity?

India has sought and received Israeli assistance in influencing Congress. Israel has happily shared its lobbying know-how with India, pulling the right strings to help isolate longtime U.S. ally Pakistan. As a result, Islamabad was on the outs with the U.S.

The first-ever joint Capitol Hill forum between the U.S. Indian Political Action Committee (USINPAC), the American Jewish Committee, and the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) was held July 16 in the nation's capital. The event featured nearly a dozen Congress members from across the U.S., diplomats from the Indian and Israeli embassies, and political activists from both communities speaking about the "symbiotic," "intrinsic," and "unique" nature of Jewish-Indian relations.
Congressman Joe Wilson (R-SC), co-chair of the Congressional India Caucus, said it was "appropriate to make this bond." Numerous speakers used the words "Muslim" and "terrorist" interchangeably. The problem for the two nations, said Congressman Gary Ackerman (D-NY), was that Israel was "surrounded by 120 million Muslims" while "India has 120 million (within)." These comments, however, contradict Indian intelligence officer B. Raman, who earlier boasted that not a single Muslim from India has been linked to al-Qaeda, Hamas, or any of the other terrorist organizations that threaten the U.S.


One speaker, Rep. Brad Sherman (D-CA), opened his speech on the importance of respecting India as an ally by telling an offensive Patel joke featuring stereotypes of Patels running motels.


Rep. Brad Sherman (D-CA)
Congressional Sindh Caucus


Mission: The Congressional Sindh Caucus is a group of Members interested in raising awareness about Sindhis in Pakistan and Sindhi-Americans. The Caucus focuses on issues of importance to the Sindhi community in Pakistan, including human rights abuses in and near the Sindh Province and the preservation of Sindhi language and culture.

Co-Chairs: Congressman Brad Sherman (CA-30) and Congresswoman Loretta Sanchez (CA-46)

Members: Congresswoman Carolyn Maloney (NY-12) and Congresswoman Kyrsten Sinema (AZ-9)

About Sindh and Sindhis (click here to read a complete report about Sindh and Sindhis): Sindh is one of Pakistan's four provinces, accounting for roughly one-quarter of the country's population in less than 18% of its land area. Its provincial capital, Karachi, is among the world's largest megacities, and also the site of significant sectarian, ethnic, and political violence.

Pakistan's 1971 bifurcation into two states left a "rump" (West) Pakistan dominated both politically and demographically by Punjabis, but containing three other major ethnonationalist communities: Sindhis, Pashtuns, and Baloch. Increased Punjabi dominance elicited considerable resentment among the country's ethnic minorities.

Sindh historically has possessed many of the trappings of a modern nation-state. Yet it exists in a circumstance wherein its autonomy (and that of Pakistan’s other “minority provinces”) is significantly restrained by a politically and demographically dominant Punjabi province and ethnicity. Sindh thus operates in a seemingly permanent state of disadvantage, and is seen by some to be unlikely to meet its full social and economic potential in the absence of major qualitative changes to the Pakistani state.
 
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18th amendment gives proviences power to speak up their issues...it gives western powers to look at independent state.
People are more independent in Pakistan than anyone live near by Pakistan.. if some one think that they can change peoples preception by making congress think this way..i would say they living in fools paradise..
 
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Stupid fools, so where does the water for Sind comes from?
 
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Firstly, something about CSR reports. They are rudimentary in nature - they sound important and official but if you read one you will realize that they are more like a gist and hardly ever say anything ground-breaking and original. I have used CSR reports in the past in academic work and had their veracity and quality questioned.

Secondly, the CSR report is making a fundamental error in understanding the dynamics of Sindh. Karachi is not the same as the rest of Sindh. Just as New York city is in New York State but has its own nature, and Mumbai is in Maharashtra but is its own beast. The situation in Karachi does not play out in the rest of Sindh. It is not a simple Mohajir vs Sindhi equation. The violence in Karachi is gangland violence, albeit of the extreme kind. There is no organized secession movement - just organized gangs that like killing and torturing.

However, having said that, the real threat is not an independent Sindh. The real threat is large parts of the country not being in unison with the rest of Pakistan and being drags on its governance and growth. Our government is largely to blame for this - after the initial analysis was done that places like FATA were not going to become independent, we happily allowed them to become no-go areas where the writ of the state barely applies. The same was allowed in Balochistan, and then in Karachi. Until the terrorism issue blew up in our face, our government seemed reconciled to a situation which would be unacceptable to any functional, sovereign nation.
 
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of course you can... first find way to get Kashmir.... we already did something, what we wanted to do..

No mate we have several options and it is up to us which one we choose first.
 
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I know. If the state can provide for its citizens these differences become a minor issue.



He must also be an idiot and truly does not understand Sindh. From the west, Sindh is inhabited by Baloch and Sindhi tribes, on the north there is a cultural mix of Punjabi and Sindhi. Sindh's urban cities such as Karachi and Hyderabad are a fusion of all of the Pakistani ethnicities. Sindh cannot survive without Karachi, but Karachi can survive without Sindh. The possibility of an independent Sindh are next to zero.
Karachi can be like Singapore/Hongkong...
 
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Karachi can be like Singapore/Hongkong...

Karachi is a city like no other. I know Indians pride themselves on the resilience of the people of Mumbai. But visualize a city that has been subjected to violence that is dozens of times greater in magnitude than anything suffered by Mumbai, and is still as significant to Pakistan's economy as Mumbai is to India's.
 
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Highly doubt that Sindhi would want to succeed from Pakistan. The only separatist party their is Jeay Sindh Qaumi mahaaz, but that too is in tatters after the death of their leader GM Syed. They are largely irrelevant in Sindh.

On the other hand. There are many separatist movements in US aswell.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Vermont_Republic

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_secession_movements#Texas_Nationalist_Movement
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_State_Project
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaskan_Independence_Party
 
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