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Pakistan's Service Rifle (G-3, Type-56) Replacement Competition 2016.

Which rifle should win the competition?

  • FN-SCAR-H

    Votes: 241 42.9%
  • Beretta ARX-200

    Votes: 62 11.0%
  • CZ-806 Bren2

    Votes: 116 20.6%
  • Kalashnikov AK-103

    Votes: 127 22.6%
  • Zavasta M21

    Votes: 17 3.0%

  • Total voters
    562
The same is true for the Japanese defense industry. They're not making 100,000 Howa assault rifles every year but a total spread over a span of 10+ years so the local craftsmen/women are able to preserve their knowledge.

There's easily a market for Dara custom guns in the US. Pakistanis just suck at entrepreneurship. With the military having a hard on for foreign equipment over nurturing local talent. Just look at the shitshow defense exhibits being put on.
I have been around the Darra guns. They are not built to our military specifications. Exporting to some gun shops in the US for civilians is quite different than supplying to the military. You are right, Darra should market their wares to the US market and be better at it.

Unless you have seen the trials that the military has to put these weapons through, it is hard to explain why the Darra made weapons don't make the grade. As an example, in our bakeoffs, the Darra-made barrels and their actions would just melt during firing or completely freeze and become inoperable during cold tests. As such, the military either prefers licensed production or outright purchases from renowned manufacturers in the US (Colt) or Russia/China because their quality is so much better.

Our options are one of two. Either the state factories upgrade and deliver or you invest in the private sector. Darra could become a part of the latter but after a lot of consolidation and QC being put in place.
 
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It is not enough to maintain a qualified workforce. The products need to be more qualified all the time. This is possible both with a very selective domestic demand and with exports. Two conditions must be met, one alone is not enough. Quality is constantly improving in our small arms industry, as our people are brutally selective towards domestic production. Due to the increased quality, this industry is now expected to produce large-caliber machine guns as well. As an example, SSB asked Sarsılmaz to produce a domestic variant of the M197 20 mm gatling gun.
 
Zastava M21 is fine rifle. Simple reliable and cost effective.
 
The same is true for the Japanese defense industry. They're not making 100,000 Howa assault rifles every year but a total spread over a span of 10+ years so the local craftsmen/women are able to preserve their knowledge.

There's easily a market for Dara custom guns in the US. Pakistanis just suck at entrepreneurship. With the military having a hard on for foreign equipment over nurturing local talent. Just look at the shitshow defense exhibits being put on.

Hi,

Amazing that you are comparing the work and quality of japanese to the those from Dara.

Dara equipment is 3rd rate---in quality and manufacturing as well.

Your lack of experience with weapons speaks out loud---.
 
Hi,

Amazing that you are comparing the work and quality of japanese to the those from Dara.

Dara equipment is 3rd rate---in quality and manufacturing as well.

Your lack of experience with weapons speaks out loud---.

Age is impacting your comprehension uncle.

My comment was how Japan spreads out their defense acquisitions across multiple years for companies to maintain their technical knowhow. Dara gun makers are no less talented.

Improving the quality of Dara supplies and a few agents to work with the ATF will easily open the door for collectors to buy the ridiculous designs.
 
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POF stall at D&S 2022 Expo ,
What appears to be a new variant of BW20 chambered in 7.62 x 39 i think (or is it 5.56) , in addition to BW20 chambered in the 7.62 x 51,
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The same is true for the Japanese defense industry. They're not making 100,000 Howa assault rifles every year but a total spread over a span of 10+ years so the local craftsmen/women are able to preserve their knowledge.

There's easily a market for Dara custom guns in the US. Pakistanis just suck at entrepreneurship. With the military having a hard on for foreign equipment over nurturing local talent. Just look at the shitshow defense exhibits being put on.
Darra guns are shit........They have zero experience in metallurgy and latest machinery. You talk about guns they cannot even make decent 9mm bullets.
 
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